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Old 3 September 2020, 09:25 AM   #1
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NEW 41mm Submariner Dimensions (what we know so far...)

Seen a lot of measurements float around through various threads, reviews, videos

This is what is known so far (based on what i've seen). Please update accordingly as we confirm or obtain more precise information.
  • Bezel: 40.22mm (old) / 40.53mm (new - digital)
    (NEW came from Revolution Watches - assume using digital calipers. Note there was a TRF poster from Spain with first Ceramic Kermit who says it is 41mm - but not sure if digital calipers)

  • Lug to Lug (length top to bottom): 47.6mm (old) / 48mm (new - not digital)
    (note i have seen 47.8mm for the OLD measurement too)

  • Lug Width (between lugs): 20mm (old) / 21mm (new - not digital)

  • Lug Width (total width): 27.8mm (old) / 28mm (new - not digital)

  • Thickness (excluding cyclops): 12.63mm (old) / 12.4mm (new)
    (NEW came from Revolution Watches - was stated to be 0.23mm thinner than prior version so i just did the math)

  • Clasp width: 17.62mm (old) / ???mm (new)
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Old 3 September 2020, 09:28 AM   #2
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Old 3 September 2020, 09:35 AM   #3
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Is the lug width actually got a little bigger, but appear smaller because the bracelet is wider and because the new lugs are longer from top to bottom, they taper a bit more, but still wider, is that correct?
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Old 3 September 2020, 09:45 AM   #4
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Well done!

Looking at photos I was not convinced the lugs got thinner as many suggested.

I am assuming the crystal size, 30.5mm, staid the same. If so we’re looking at a thicker bezel/case to get to 41mm.


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Old 3 September 2020, 09:46 AM   #5
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Jamesthejeweller here did some measurements in this thread and stated he is planning to get digital calipers to re measure it. Then we'll know the answers once and for all since he has a 2020 yet old style Bluesy so he can measure both watches using same calipers and we'll be able to avoid any discrepancies between calipers measurement points, etc. Two watches measured with the same calipers by same person in the same spots.
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Old 4 September 2020, 01:11 AM   #6
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Jamesthejeweller here did some measurements in this thread and stated he is planning to get digital calipers to re measure it. Then we'll know the answers once and for all since he has a 2020 yet old style Bluesy so he can measure both watches using same calipers and we'll be able to avoid any discrepancies between calipers measurement points, etc. Two watches measured with the same calipers by same person in the same spots.
Why anyone would feel the need to measure or weigh any Rolex watch defeats me.Do some of guys only buy watches by size and weight, and does 1mm or any fraction of a mm in-between matter.
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Old 4 September 2020, 01:15 AM   #7
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Why anyone would feel the need to measure or weigh any Rolex watch defeats me.Do some of guys only buy watches by size and weight, and does 1mm or any fraction of a mm in-between matter.

A mm can in fact make a difference in fit and comfort. Cheers!
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Old 4 September 2020, 01:22 AM   #8
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A mm can in fact make a difference in fit and comfort. Cheers!
So what you are saying if they made all watches 1mm bigger they would fit and be more comfortable,sorry cannot see any logic in it at all.
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Old 4 September 2020, 01:58 AM   #9
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So what you are saying if they made all watches 1mm bigger they would fit and be more comfortable,sorry cannot see any logic in it at all.

A mm in diameter or a mm in lug to lug can matter. And in fact, I feel the opposite of your assumption. I have bought and subsequently sold several watches that were 41mm. I find they were just a tad too big when compared to 40mm. I’ve tried different brands at the 41mm size. 40mm really is just the sweet spot for me, so a mm does matter.
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Old 4 September 2020, 01:17 AM   #10
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Why anyone would feel the need to measure or weigh any Rolex watch defeats me.Do some of guys only buy watches by size and weight, and does 1mm or any fraction of a mm in-between matter.
More of a curiosity and how it compares to the out going model for me. 1mm would not concern me one way or the other on purchasing a watch I liked and fit me well.
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Old 4 September 2020, 01:19 AM   #11
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Why anyone would feel the need to measure or weigh any Rolex watch defeats me.Do some of guys only buy watches by size and weight, and does 1mm or any fraction of a mm in-between matter.
I'm just curious whether Rolex is trying to pull wool over our eyes by saying it's 41 when it's basically the same size as the previous model or whether it's actually larger.
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Old 4 September 2020, 05:11 AM   #12
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Why anyone would feel the need to measure or weigh any Rolex watch defeats me.Do some of guys only buy watches by size and weight, and does 1mm or any fraction of a mm in-between matter.
Not for me, the only thing I'm interested in is how it wears on my wrist.
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Old 4 September 2020, 05:29 AM   #13
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Why anyone would feel the need to measure or weigh any Rolex watch defeats me.Do some of guys only buy watches by size and weight, and does 1mm or any fraction of a mm in-between matter.
Agree.
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Old 3 September 2020, 09:47 AM   #14
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From the look of those numbers, it appears to have excellent dimensions. Especially the thinner thickness of the case.

As long as this piece is not like an AP RO 15500, where the bend of the end links go out to like 53mm, it should be a wonderful piece.
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Old 3 September 2020, 09:57 AM   #15
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from the other poster who had digital calipers for the NEW sub:

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The ruler is just for aesthetics, I got my vernier calipers out and I can state the following measurements

Lug to lug: 27.25mm
Case width: 41.00mm
Bezel ring height: 2.55mm
End link: 21.00mm
Case flank thickness: 5.00mm
Overall thickness 12.55mm

The Mercedes hand is definitely larger but I'm unable to quantify exactly by how much.
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Old 3 September 2020, 09:54 AM   #16
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How the dial? Is it gloss or satin?
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Old 3 September 2020, 09:56 AM   #17
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Is the dial Rolex gloss or satin? Thanks
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Old 3 September 2020, 11:22 AM   #18
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Gloss, laquer.
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Old 3 September 2020, 10:09 AM   #19
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I wish somebody to measure the bezel too. I wonder if they increased it slightly as it appears it may be.
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Old 3 September 2020, 03:20 PM   #20
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ExUgEX4C_s

good vid - showing overlay of the new and old Subs

Looks like hair bigger overall but the narrower lugs were primarily "created" from incorporating a wider bracelet by 0.5mm on each side (total 1mm)

Still the true check will be new / old Sub with digital calipers - but this appears to show how the narrower lugs were achieved
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Old 4 September 2020, 01:29 AM   #21
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ExUgEX4C_s

good vid - showing overlay of the new and old Subs

Looks like hair bigger overall but the narrower lugs were primarily "created" from incorporating a wider bracelet by 0.5mm on each side (total 1mm)

Still the true check will be new / old Sub with digital calipers - but this appears to show how the narrower lugs were achieved
Excellent video! The new lugs are a bit wider, but also longer, and where they meet the wider bracelet, the lugs look more narrow. The new one no doubt is a bigger watch. I really like it for the date version, it allows the cyclops to breath more. I am starting to like the “non-date” version more
at 40 because the new dial is bigger, more empty space.
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Old 3 September 2020, 04:41 PM   #22
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Never thought of myself getting an OP.. But the 42! Love it!!!
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Old 4 September 2020, 12:30 AM   #23
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I feel the new Submariner with the slimmer lugs and 21mm bracelet is better proportioned than the 114060 and I've already contacted my AD yesterday for one, so I'll be waiting patiently.
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NEW 41mm Submariner Dimensions (what we know so far...)

I absolutely love every single improvement to the updated Sub line. They hit a home run in my opinion. Subtle changes are everything with Rolex
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Rolex hit a grand slam with the new version imo.
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Seen a lot of measurements float around through various threads, reviews, videos



This is what is known so far (based on what i've seen). Please update accordingly as we confirm or obtain more precise information.


  • Bezel: 40.22mm (old) / 40.53mm (new - digital)

    (NEW came from Revolution Watches - assume using digital calipers. Note there was a TRF poster from Spain with first Ceramic Kermit who says it is 41mm - but not sure if digital calipers)




  • Lug to Lug (length top to bottom): 47.6mm (old) / 48mm (new - not digital)

    (note i have seen 47.8mm for the OLD measurement too)




  • Lug Width (between lugs): 20mm (old) / 21mm (new - not digital)




  • Lug Width (total width): 27.8mm (old) / 28mm (new - not digital)




  • Thickness (excluding cyclops): 12.63mm (old) / 12.4mm (new)

    (NEW came from Revolution Watches - was stated to be 0.23mm thinner than prior version so i just did the math)




  • Clasp width: 17.62mm (old) / ???mm (new)
The clasp is 1mm wider on the new one

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Old 4 September 2020, 02:00 AM   #28
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Glad to see a lug to lug height of 48mm.

It is a shame I won't ever get to try one on. That's okay, it's a good thing to start a new journey with another brand.

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I have bought and subsequently sold several watches that were 41mm. I find they were just a tad too big when compared to 40mm.
You're talking about a 1/2mm on each side.
I can't imagine this making enough of a difference to sell a 41mm due to discomfort to buy a 40mm.
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You're talking about a 1/2mm on each side.
I can't imagine this making enough of a difference to sell a 41mm due to discomfort to buy a 40mm.


If you can’t imagine it, then expand your mind and let your imagination run wild. It actually did matter, and the 41mm watches were in fact a tad too big for me, for both looks and comfort.

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