New Jeep Grand Wagoneer 100K plus...thoughts

[RLX_NY]

Hey Guys,
Was browsing through car and driver and came accross the below article for the new upcoming jeep Wagoneer at 100K+ as jeep moves into the full size luxury SUV market... thoughts?

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a3...cept-revealed/

The interior is definitely nice and has some great tech/features, not to sure how I feel about the exterior... don't hate it and don't intermediately love it so will probably have to wait and see it in person. Currently own a Grand Cherokee so could be a possible future replacement

[Blansky]

Not sure how many people need three rows of seats except Uber and airporters.

Could be a cool vehicle but seems like overkill.

[Screwly]

Originally Posted by Blansky

Not sure how many people need three rows of seats except Uber and airporters.

Could be a cool vehicle but seems like overkill.

I have a family of five with kids aged 14, 3 and 5 months. 2 car seats definitely need 3 rows and that’s why we decided on a bmw x7.

[RLX_NY]

Originally Posted by Blansky

Not sure how many people need three rows of seats except Uber and airporters.

Could be a cool vehicle but seems like overkill.

You bring up a valid point but suprisingly living in the Tri State area there's a lot of Escalades and Navigators which I think is what Jeep is trying to compete with here.

To be honest once the lease is up on the Grand Cherokee I want the Cadillac XT6 next, the front is so sexy I think they hit it out of the park dunno about reliability as never owned a Cadillac before but looks wise alone think it's great

[dddrees]

Originally Posted by Blansky

Not sure how many people need three rows of seats except Uber and airporters.

Could be a cool vehicle but seems like overkill.

I chose a three row because it's the three row that not unlike the bigger car of days gone by that gives someone like me at 6' 3" the personal cabin space I find much more enjoyable, less confining, and the greater flexibility to transport more items or people. I'm not that big but I do like a little more space at my height. Not unlike smaller cars the smaller SUV just doesn't appeal to me and I don't like being cramped or having to squeeze into a vehicle.

[DLRIDES]

Fiat


What can you add to that ?





Fiat tried to market their cars in the US twice, lack of sales due to reliability and quality issues forced withdrawal. So they buy Chrysler, which had questionable quality and reliability at best, mix in some proven Fiat failure, and try for the third time.




The Jeep brand has been allowed operate somewhat independent, but word in the industry is that Fiat is now becoming more involved ......................... failure will follow.

[Blansky]

Originally Posted by dddrees

I chose a three row because it's the three row that not unlike the bigger car of days gone by that gives someone like me at 6' 3" the personal cabin space I find much more enjoyable, less confining, and the greater flexibility to transport more items or people. I'm not that big but I do like a little more space at my height. Not unlike smaller cars the smaller SUV just doesn't appeal to me and I don't like being cramped or having to squeeze into a vehicle.

We have a Lincoln MKX (Crossover)that my wife drives which you see a quite a lot of. There is also the MKT, which is longer with the third row of seats.

It seems the only people driving them are Limo/airporter companies which made me wonder about the 3rd row seat concept. As others have pointed out if you have kids I guess it can make sense.

I agree Jeep is not really a luxury car company so 100 grand for one seems like a stretch. Ba Dum Bum

[dddrees]

Originally Posted by Blansky

We have a Lincoln MKX (Crossover)that my wife drives which you see a quite a lot of. There is also the MKT, which is longer with the third row of seats.

It seems the only people driving them are Limo/airporter companies which made me wonder about the 3rd row seat concept. As others have pointed out if you have kids I guess it can make sense.

I agree Jeep is not really a luxury car company so 100 grand for one seems like a stretch. Ba Dum Bum

Of course, but I was also trying to point out there might be other reasons as well and not just because you have three or more kids. Most of the smaller SUVs are more narrow and that just doesn't work as well for me and the added length gives me greater flexibility. Besides for those that tow which I do not the larger SUV also works better as well.

[Blansky]

Originally Posted by dddrees

Of course, but I was also trying to point out there might be other reasons as well and not just because you have three or more kids. Most of the smaller SUVs are more narrow and that just doesn't work as well for me and the added length gives me greater flexibility. Besides for those that tow which I do not the larger SUV also works better as well.

Yup. Whatever works.

Ours is a dog limo. The back seats are always folded down so there is lots of room for nose art on the windows and plenty of sniffs out the window.

I'm 6'4 and surprised you need more legroom than standard SUVs. Our hot rod Lincoln MKX seem fine.

[Watchflair]

Originally Posted by Blansky

Not sure how many people need three rows of seats except Uber and airporters.

Could be a cool vehicle but seems like overkill.

Any family with 3 kids... pretty big market as minivans sales have dramatically declined due to the SUV craze.

[bremersm]

Originally Posted by Blansky

Not sure how many people need three rows of seats except Uber and airporters.

Could be a cool vehicle but seems like overkill.

Maybe those of us with a few kids appreciate an extra row as long as the masses allow it.

[swils8610]

Originally Posted by bremersm

Maybe those of us with a few kids appreciate an extra row as long as the masses allow it.

Well said! The come in handy a lot.


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[GB-man]

Originally Posted by bremersm

Maybe those of us with a few kids appreciate an extra row as long as the masses allow it.

[77T]

Originally Posted by bremersm

Maybe those of us with a few kids appreciate an extra row as long as the masses allow it.

The SUV segment is moving away since 3-row models are a fraction of their sales volume.

But there is an entirely different vehicle segment for those wanting 3 rows.




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[Screwly]

I think the exterior is a no from me. The front and back don’t look like they belong to the body of the vehicle. Definitely wouldn’t pay 100k+ for this when they are superior vehicles on the market from that price.

[RLX_NY]

Originally Posted by Screwly

I think the exterior is a no from me. The front and back don’t look like they belong to the body of the vehicle. Definitely wouldn’t pay 100k+ for this when they are superior vehicles on the market from that price.

Yeah I'd be curious to see the sales data eventually as I'm also not sure how many people would be willing to pay 100K + for a Jeep. I personally think if it was priced in the 80-90ish range it would probably do better as it does seem to offer some great tech/features.

[Bigblu10]

For 100K you can have a full size Cadillac Escalade. A Jeep is hardly synonymous with luxury

[Jackie Daytona]

Originally Posted by Bigblu10

For 100K you can have a full size Cadillac Escalade. A Jeep is hardly synonymous with luxury

My sentiments exactly. I can’t see where the justification for a 6 figure price tag would ever come from with this.

[dunedc]

Originally Posted by Bigblu10

For 100K you can have a full size Cadillac Escalade. A Jeep is hardly synonymous with luxury

I thought of this exactly... I'd have said it's the OP's choice but since he asked, I say it's not a wise purchase...

[shaunylw]

Lol they are going to have a lot of these sitting around. At 60k, their are better options. At 100k, it’s fully delusional. Escalade, Range Rover, Lexus lx, Lincoln Navigator... they are out of their league.


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[bondtoys]

That‘s an ugly dog - and that comes from a Cherokee admirer!

[ABrolex]

Originally Posted by bondtoys

That‘s an ugly dog - and that comes from a Cherokee admirer!

Facts. That's one ugly truck.

[psv]

So dumb...

[Cru Jones]

Originally Posted by psv

So dumb...

..... and ugly.... and cheap looking.....

[airchitect]

Considering FCA produces some of the lowest quality vehicles out there, third only to Nissan and Tata (Land Rover, Jag), it’ll be a hard pass from this guy

[214270Explorer]

Originally Posted by airchitect

Considering FCA produces some of the lowest quality vehicles out there, third only to Nissan and Tata (Land Rover, Jag), it’ll be a hard pass from this guy

What airchitect said. And he said all that needs to be said.

I have had more than my share of issues with products from that ______(swear words)_______ company.

[TK-710]

Originally Posted by airchitect

Considering FCA produces some of the lowest quality vehicles out there, third only to Nissan and Tata (Land Rover, Jag), it’ll be a hard pass from this guy

Exactly. In fact I’d probably take a Nissan or Tata product before FCA.

[Mr. Drunmond]

I'm not sure who buys this.

Want luxury in a big SUV - Navigator/Cadillac/Range Rover
Want almost luxury in a big SUV - Expedition platinum, GMC Denali etc 25-30k cheaper.
Want bullet proof 4x4 go anywhere in the world - Land Cruiser/Lexus LX

[Griswald]

That thing is already an outdated, bloated, and ugly dinosaur...Jeep is a lost ball in high weeds with this vehicle-Hard pass.

[Knappo 1307]

100k for a Jeep....... No