Night time resting position

[puckybadger]

My new Submariner 124060 with the new 3230 movement has been keeping excellent time for the month we've been together, and I'd like to keep it that way. Does it matter how I park it at night? It's on the wrist for 12+ hours a day. Thanx.

[G3Z]

North West, ideally 30 degrees more towards East, sat on a single lug, horizontally.

Edit: obviously a light hearted joke - No, it does not matter. Enjoy it.

[Abre]

Originally Posted by G3Z

North West, ideally 30 degrees more towards East, sat on a single lug, horizontally.

Edit: obviously a light hearted joke - No, it does not matter. Enjoy it.

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[Smobews]

The watch sits for about 8-10 hours of the 24 in a day at rest. The total daily accuracy is affected by what position the watch is in during that night time rest.

My 32 series movement runs fastest dial up, and slowest crown down. There is a 4 spd difference between the two.

I suggest resting it face up and seeing how it performs over the month. If it is running fast, try crown down the next month after resyncing it to atomic clock.

[Kingsman]

I attach my DSSD to my ceiling fan which spins all night.

[Smobews]

Originally Posted by Kingsman

I attach my DSSD to my ceiling fan which spins all night.

That’s one hell of a watch winder

[Thanos]

Originally Posted by Kingsman

I attach my DSSD to my ceiling fan which spins all night.

Hilarious

[TTalk]

Originally Posted by TK-710

Try these threads.
https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=375935
https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=434132

Originally Posted by Smobews

Those do not apply to 32 series movement, or 31 series for that matter

Correct, as I learned recently from the man...

Originally Posted by SearChart

That card was supplied with a watch back in the 60s. It has been addressed several times by other watchmakers on here that it cannot be applied to modern watch movements.

Still, people post that frequently and misinformation this keeps happening.

And yes, individual movements will get different results. So some might actually be completely accurate when using that old guide, and some will not.

[NachoNeal]

Originally Posted by TTalk

Correct, as I learned recently from the man...

Thanks for posting that. I thought that little card applied to modern watches as well.

[LF1925]

Originally Posted by Kingsman

I attach my DSSD to my ceiling fan which spins all night.

Had me dying on the comment, thanks for the laugh!

[huba01]

Originally Posted by Kingsman

I attach my DSSD to my ceiling fan which spins all night.

Sound advice

[TK-710]

Try these threads.


https://www.rolexforums.com/showthre...highlight=blnr


https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=434132

[Smobews]

Originally Posted by TK-710

Try these threads.


https://www.rolexforums.com/showthre...highlight=blnr


https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=434132

Those do not apply to 32 series movement, or 31 series for that matter

[TK-710]

Originally Posted by Smobews

Those do not apply to 32 series movement, or 31 series for that matter

Those were just threads that came up in a search for resting position for the OP to get more ideas since at the time the best he got was a ceiling fan. I wasn’t endorsing the charts, more the discussion others were having on the results they had.

[lord91]

Originally Posted by Smobews

Those do not apply to 32 series movement, or 31 series for that matter

i can assure you that the 313o is affected by its resting position.

[Smobews]

Originally Posted by lord91

i can assure you that the 313o is affected by its resting position.

of course it is, but not by the 1960's card that the links refer to.


I put two new Rolex' on a timegrapher for fun. One is a 3235 and the other is a 3187. Here are the results:

3235
(-0.6 spd on the wrist resting face up at night)
rate amp B.E.
+0.4 276 0.0 dial up
+0.9 275 0.0 dial down
-3.4 239 0.0 12 up
-1.6 241 0.2 6 up
-1.3 239 0.0 crown up
-3.4 241 0.2 crown down

3187
(-1.1 spd on the wrist resting crown down at night)
rate amp B.E.
0.0 307 0.0 dial up
+0.1 289 0.0 dial down
-2.7 262 0.0 12 up
+1.6 252 0.0 6 up
-4.4 257 0.1 crown up
+2.3 261 0.1 crown down

[Thanos]

Originally Posted by puckybadger

My new Submariner 124060 with the new 3230 movement has been keeping excellent time for the month we've been together, and I'd like to keep it that way. Does it matter how I park it at night? It's on the wrist for 12+ hours a day. Thanx.

I park it on my wrist when sleeping

[jamesbondOO7]

Originally Posted by Thanos

I park it on my wrist when sleeping

I too

[thenewrick]

Personally, when I get a new watch I keep a data log of the time it gains or loses and its resting position and the effect it has. The ignorant man's watch regulation method.

I just use an Excel spreadsheet.

I wait a month of normal wearing for it to break in.

Then I'll check the time in the morning, wear it all day, then check it at night and write those numbers down.

Then I'll rest the watch and check it in the morning and write that number down and repeat the gains or losses each day and each night with each resting position.

After I have a decent data set, about 3 points of data for each method of resting I'll decide which is best and stick with that indefinitely until I notice a weird deviation.

With my current Tissot it gains about 3 seconds resting crown up over night then loses 3 seconds as I wear it throughout the day. I found that other resting positions lost more seconds generally. It tends to stay around +0 to +1 seconds over 24 hours and generally very accurate with this method.

I find the data and testing to be interesting but I can see where others wouldn't.

I'm at +1 seconds over a week now but I haven't been wearing it a ton which tends to slow it down. So it's right around what I'd expect. Overall I prefer it to be slightly fast and never slow if I can help it.

[Tools]

Watch movements are regulated (or at least checked) in the same 5 positions that they have almost always been.

The differences in gravity and friction are physics and still apply. Modern day movements do have stronger mainsprings and better tolerances, so positional variation is not nearly as noticeable, but it is still there.

I would say that you should be consistent in how you lay your watch down, and then you would have consistent results.

[thenewrick]

Originally Posted by Tools

Watch movements are regulated (or at least checked) in the same 5 positions that they have almost always been.

The differences in gravity and friction are physics and still apply. Modern day movements do have stronger mainsprings and better tolerances, so positional variation is not nearly as noticeable, but it is still there.

I would say that you should be consistent in how you lay your watch down, and then you would have consistent results.

It does seem like my watch kind of finds its medium over time. If it gains 5 seconds from wearing and resting a certain way and then I go back to my normal methods it'll go back to +0. My friend's Hamilton just tends to gain seconds each day though to where he's at +1 minute after a month of normal wear and rest.

H-30 movement vs Powermatic Silicium 80

[Labelsource]

You must be the life and soul of a party 🤣

Originally Posted by thenewrick

Personally, when I get a new watch I keep a data log of the time it gains or loses and its resting position and the effect it has.

I just use an Excel spreadsheet.

I wait a month of normal wearing for it to break in.

Then I'll check the time in the morning, wear it all day, then check it at night and write those numbers down.

Then I'll rest the watch and check it in the morning and write that number down and repeat the gains or losses each day and each night with each resting position.

After I have a decent data set, about 3 points of data for each method of resting I'll decide which is best and stick with that indefinitely until I notice a weird deviation.

With my current Tissot it gains about 3 seconds resting crown up over night then loses 3 seconds as I wear it throughout the day. I found that other resting positions lost more seconds generally. It tends to stay around +0 to +1 seconds over 24 hours and generally very accurate with this method.

I find the data and testing to be interesting but I can see where others wouldn't.

I'm at +1 seconds over a week now but I haven't been wearing it a ton which tends to slow it down. So it's right around what I'd expect. Overall I prefer it to be slightly fast and never slow if I can help it.

[thenewrick]

Originally Posted by Labelsource

You must be the life and soul of a party 🤣

I just find a drink and pet the dog.

[epicurus]

Originally Posted by thenewrick

I just find a drink and pet the dog.

[joli160]

Originally Posted by thenewrick

I just find a drink and pet the dog.

nice response

[Smobews]

Originally Posted by thenewrick

Personally, when I get a new watch I keep a data log of the time it gains or loses and its resting position and the effect it has. The ignorant man's watch regulation method.

I just use an Excel spreadsheet.

I wait a month of normal wearing for it to break in.

Then I'll check the time in the morning, wear it all day, then check it at night and write those numbers down.

Then I'll rest the watch and check it in the morning and write that number down and repeat the gains or losses each day and each night with each resting position.

After I have a decent data set, about 3 points of data for each method of resting I'll decide which is best and stick with that indefinitely until I notice a weird deviation.

With my current Tissot it gains about 3 seconds resting crown up over night then loses 3 seconds as I wear it throughout the day. I found that other resting positions lost more seconds generally. It tends to stay around +0 to +1 seconds over 24 hours and generally very accurate with this method.

I find the data and testing to be interesting but I can see where others wouldn't.

I'm at +1 seconds over a week now but I haven't been wearing it a ton which tends to slow it down. So it's right around what I'd expect. Overall I prefer it to be slightly fast and never slow if I can help it.

I highly recommend the phone app “WatchTracker”. It will make you life a whole lot easier, and has some cool graphing features.

[billybob1999]

Originally Posted by Smobews

I highly recommend the phone app “WatchTracker”. It will make you life a whole lot easier, and has some cool graphing features.

WatchCheck is also a great app

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[enjoythemusic]

Keep it on your wrist 24/7, problem solved. Haven't taken my Sub off in months.

[SDGT3]

Someone recently posted about putting their watch on a perch overnight.... I thought about doing the same, but didn't know where my Maltese falcon would rest if I did that...

[nikesupremedunk]

There definitely is a difference in all of my Rolexes. Most of them seem to run fastest with the caseback down, then crown up, and crown down is the slowest. It also seems to run differently on the winder but not too sure.

My Omega on the other hand seem to run fastest crown down though. Weird.