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mcjp6 · 27 April 2009, 01:35 PM

Would you do that?

Maybe its real but no feedback for over 6 months and then suddenly you put on a Daytona with no reserve.

I would not be buying it.

"I’m selling this Rolex watch because I don’t have any reason to wear it. It was a gift to me and has never been worn"

Obviously not a TRF member!
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/NEW-2009-ROLE...3A1|240%3A1309

onkyo · 27 April 2009, 01:41 PM

AUTHENTIC BLACK 2009 ROLEX DAYTONA V SERIES BLACK 116520

Serial number ingraved: Z7177**

scottschoe · 27 April 2009, 01:44 PM

No reserve is AOK. I would not buy from a brand new seller.

coddger · 27 April 2009, 01:56 PM

New in 2006, New Old Stock in 2009

coddger · 27 April 2009, 03:19 PM

Messaged the seller:
Dear authentic-items-moneyback,

Z Serial is a 2006, not a 2009. You guarantee authenticity or my money back? Thanks.

Coddger

Seller response:
Dear coddger,

Hi,

Watch is 2009 DAYTONA MODEL!!! MONEYBACK GUARANTEE AUTHENTIC 2009!

thanks.

- authentic-items-moneyback

diablojota · 27 April 2009, 03:30 PM

What bothers me about this is all the pictures are taken in different places (which if I'm selling a watch of this value, I would try to show pictures of the watch in the same area so people know the pictures come from at least the same source, I'll often times also add in my seller name on a handwritten sheet for further verification). Also, one of the pics is from a different watch all together. Another one of the pictures looks like it is a Daytona with a diamond dial, but I can't be certain given the size of the pics.

coddger · 27 April 2009, 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by diablojota

What bothers me about this is all the pictures are taken in different places (which if I'm selling a watch of this value, I would try to show pictures of the watch in the same area so people know the pictures come from at least the same source, I'll often times also add in my seller name on a handwritten sheet for further verification). Also, one of the pics is from a different watch all together. Another one of the pictures looks like it is a Daytona with a diamond dial, but I can't be certain given the size of the pics.

Good point! Excellent observation

Seller hasn't sold anything in the past but has bought $1-2.00 items,

Could be a set up OR a hijacked account?

mcjp6 · 27 April 2009, 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by diablojota

What bothers me about this is all the pictures are taken in different places (which if I'm selling a watch of this value, I would try to show pictures of the watch in the same area so people know the pictures come from at least the same source, I'll often times also add in my seller name on a handwritten sheet for further verification). Also, one of the pics is from a different watch all together. Another one of the pictures looks like it is a Daytona with a diamond dial, but I can't be certain given the size of the pics.

you're right, two different watches, well spotted - - light dial and dark dial and multiple locations, looks a little sus for sure

mcjp6 · 27 April 2009, 04:12 PM

I subscribe to a news letter from http://www.clockmaker.com.au/, and this is just what came through!! Unbelievable! here is the link to the real Daytona http://clockmaker.com.au/w/k1234.html

** Dumb and Dumber

OK you don't need to be an eBay whiz to work out this fraud.
A dumb wannabe-con artist (apparently from Sydney!)
ripped off photos of our black dial Daytona K1234
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI....m=260400198991
The seller is so dumb that in his listing, he also included one photo of
a white dial Daytona!
So if you think that no one in his right mind would bid on it,
think twice- there is already a pile of not less than EIGHT dumber bidders,
fighting for a 'bargain'. Four days to go...
Thanks to Frank A for bringing this to our attention.

And if you think this could be a one-off incident then you are wrong again.
Our server log shows that this month alone in 68
cases, photos from our server were directly linked to listings on amazon, ioffer,
ebay and chrono24. That is, sixty-eight sellers who are too lazy to even
copy our photos - so they are linking directly to our server!

idk01 · 27 April 2009, 05:17 PM

HitTheRoadJackAndDontComeBackNoMore...

idk01 · 27 April 2009, 05:28 PM

Gone

This listing (260400198991) has been removed or is no longer available.

27 April 2009, 01:35 PM	#1
mcjp6 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Real Name: Michael Location: VK2 - AUS Watch: 5513s Posts: 7,380	List a Daytona with No reserve? Would you do that? Maybe its real but no feedback for over 6 months and then suddenly you put on a Daytona with no reserve. I would not be buying it. "I’m selling this Rolex watch because I don’t have any reason to wear it. It was a gift to me and has never been worn" Obviously not a TRF member! http://cgi.ebay.com.au/NEW-2009-ROLE...3A1\|240%3A1309

27 April 2009, 01:44 PM	#3
scottschoe "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: CA Posts: 3,295	No reserve is AOK. I would not buy from a brand new seller. __________________ __________________

27 April 2009, 01:56 PM	#4
coddger "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: Only Mom Knows Location: Land Of The Free Watch: 116520,16610,16013 Posts: 1,573	New in 2006, New Old Stock in 2009 __________________ Contentment Is Not The Fulfillment Of Getting All The Watches You Want, It Is The Realization Of How Many Rolexes You Already Have.

27 April 2009, 03:19 PM	#5
coddger "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: Only Mom Knows Location: Land Of The Free Watch: 116520,16610,16013 Posts: 1,573	Messaged the seller: Dear authentic-items-moneyback, Z Serial is a 2006, not a 2009. You guarantee authenticity or my money back? Thanks. Coddger Seller response: Dear coddger, Hi, Watch is 2009 DAYTONA MODEL!!! MONEYBACK GUARANTEE AUTHENTIC 2009! thanks. - authentic-items-moneyback __________________ Contentment Is Not The Fulfillment Of Getting All The Watches You Want, It Is The Realization Of How Many Rolexes You Already Have.

27 April 2009, 03:30 PM	#6
diablojota "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Real Name: Frank Location: Chattanooga, TN Watch: SS Submariner Date Posts: 4,042	What bothers me about this is all the pictures are taken in different places (which if I'm selling a watch of this value, I would try to show pictures of the watch in the same area so people know the pictures come from at least the same source, I'll often times also add in my seller name on a handwritten sheet for further verification). Also, one of the pics is from a different watch all together. Another one of the pictures looks like it is a Daytona with a diamond dial, but I can't be certain given the size of the pics. __________________ RTFT - Read The Friggin' Thread FcB

27 April 2009, 01:41 PM	#2
onkyo Banned Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: Pav Location: Manhattan Posts: 11,495	AUTHENTIC BLACK 2009 ROLEX DAYTONA V SERIES BLACK 116520 Serial number ingraved: Z7177**

27 April 2009, 04:12 PM	#9
mcjp6 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Real Name: Michael Location: VK2 - AUS Watch: 5513s Posts: 7,380	I subscribe to a news letter from http://www.clockmaker.com.au/, and this is just what came through!! Unbelievable! here is the link to the real Daytona http://clockmaker.com.au/w/k1234.html ** Dumb and Dumber OK you don't need to be an eBay whiz to work out this fraud. A dumb wannabe-con artist (apparently from Sydney!) ripped off photos of our black dial Daytona K1234 http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI....m=260400198991 The seller is so dumb that in his listing, he also included one photo of a white dial Daytona! So if you think that no one in his right mind would bid on it, think twice- there is already a pile of not less than EIGHT dumber bidders, fighting for a 'bargain'. Four days to go... Thanks to Frank A for bringing this to our attention. And if you think this could be a one-off incident then you are wrong again. Our server log shows that this month alone in 68 cases, photos from our server were directly linked to listings on amazon, ioffer, ebay and chrono24. That is, sixty-eight sellers who are too lazy to even copy our photos - so they are linking directly to our server!

27 April 2009, 05:17 PM	#10
idk01 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Dave Location: Australia Watch: DJ16233TT Posts: 18,485	*HitTheRoadJackAndDontComeBackNoMore...* __________________ *Apprentice to Terry Newton; Superstar and Fake Sleuth*

27 April 2009, 05:28 PM	#11
idk01 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Dave Location: Australia Watch: DJ16233TT Posts: 18,485	Gone This listing (260400198991) has been removed or is no longer available. __________________ *Apprentice to Terry Newton; Superstar and Fake Sleuth*

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