REVEALED - OP41 Actually Measures Only 39.1mm

[vh2k]

Good side-by-side comparison of the OP41 and DJ41.

https://youtu.be/JMKnCrIK6uo

The dimensions of these two models are very similar.

And the reviewer claims the OP41 case diameter measures 39.1mm. Sounds plausible.

What do you think?

[EEpro]

I've had both and the OP41 might as well be called the brushed DJ41 no date.

[Andad]

Originally Posted by vh2k

Good side-by-side comparison of the OP41 and DJ41.

https://youtu.be/JMKnCrIK6uo

The dimensions of these two models are very similar.

And the reviewer claims the OP41 case diameter measures 39.1mm. Sounds plausible.

What do you think?

Just grabbed my DJ 41 and my digital calipers:

DJ 41 (smooth bezel) is 39.2mm across the bezel and 39.8mm across the case.

The fluted bezel may be a slightly different diameter but the case size is correct.

[TswaneNguni]

Rolex marketing is always 0.5mm larger than it actually is .. Think ss Daytonas.

If you are a DSSD user you just sit back and enjoy the micro millimeter discussions ..

OP 2020 is about dials ,not size ...and its a winner .

[TTalk]

Width at outside bezel
DJ41: 39.21mm
OP41: 39.09mm

Horizontal width with crown
DJ41: 42.27mm
OP41: 42.15mm

Crystal diameter => dial size
DJ41: 32.05mm
OP41: 33.45mm

Lug-to-lug
DJ41: 47.27mm
OP41: 47.33mm

Lug outside width at narrowest point
DJ41: 26.67mm
OP41: 26.12mm

Thickness crystal to caseback
DJ41: 11.64mm
OP41: 11.80mm

My new favorite YT reviewer, posts his own measurements of the two that are relevant and seem to be consistent. Great find.

Hopefully he'll do same with OP36 as I'm interested in those measurements compared to the OP41.

[Andad]

Originally Posted by TTalk

My new favorite YT reviewer, posts his own measurements of the two that are relevant and seem to be consistent. Great find.

The bezel is 39.2 but the case width is 39.8mm

The slight difference between the bezel width and the case width can be seen on my DJ 41.

The side of the case is rounded and increases the diameter slightly.

But c’mon we are talking about 0.3mm, is it all that important?

[winst]

Originally Posted by TTalk

My new favorite YT reviewer, posts his own measurements of the two that are relevant and seem to be consistent. Great find.



Hopefully he'll do same with OP36 as I'm interested in those measurements compared to the OP41.

Would love to see a comparison against Explorer 1 39mm as I tried an OP41 on the other day and it definitely looked bigger than my Explorer 1 39mm.

[gnuyork]

Originally Posted by winst

Would love to see a comparison against Explorer 1 39mm as I tried an OP41 on the other day and it definitely looked bigger than my Explorer 1 39mm.

Wondering this was well. What is the actual case dimension for the 39mm Explorer and the the OP39? Anybody know?

[sechsgang]

Originally Posted by winst

Would love to see a comparison against Explorer 1 39mm as I tried an OP41 on the other day and it definitely looked bigger than my Explorer 1 39mm.

I think it's more about the dial size, which it definitely looks like the OP41 has a bigger one, the case wears about the same btw those two if you only look at the case/lugs...the exp bezel is def wider, and the dial looks/is smaller as a function of that.

[goliat]

Originally Posted by TTalk

My new favorite YT reviewer, posts his own measurements of the two that are relevant and seem to be consistent. Great find.

Hopefully he'll do same with OP36 as I'm interested in those measurements compared to the OP41.

Hafiz is out of this world. His audiovisual game is on another level. Incredible that he only 14k subscribers.

[Number3]

Originally Posted by goliat

Hafiz is out of this world. His audiovisual game is on another level. Incredible that he only 14k subscribers.

Yeah, I like Hafiz. His videos are excellent quality.

[1William]

Good information. Thanks.

[padi56]

Originally Posted by vh2k

Good side-by-side comparison of the OP41 and DJ41.

https://youtu.be/JMKnCrIK6uo

The dimensions of these two models are very similar.

And the reviewer claims the OP41 case diameter measures 39.1mm. Sounds plausible.

What do you think?

To be perfectly honest dont really care, as I choose the watch I want to own and wear not because of some perceived case size measurement. And in over 50 years of owning and wearing Rolex watches never felt the need to measure any watch I bought and owned.

[dmash]

Originally Posted by padi56

To be perfectly honest dont really care, as I choose the watch I want to own and wear not because of some perceived case size measurement. And in over 50 years of owning and wearing Rolex watches never felt the need to measure any watch I bought and owned.

I fully agree that it’s not a big deal to focus on such, only what fits/looks good.

However, it still peaks my curiosity as to *why* Rolex continuously does this? As they’re definitely marketing it as a certain measurement and usually quite nitpicky over minute details. The sub41 being 40.5 is whatever, but saying something is a 41 and it actually measuring as a 39 seems silly and unnecessary. Why didn’t they just keep it called the OP39? Same could be said of DJ41, why not just market it as the true 39mm?

[vh2k]

Originally Posted by dmash

Why didn’t they just keep it called the OP39? Same could be said of DJ41, why not just market it as the true 39mm?

So they can market it as ALL NEW and BIGGER — which generates maximum customer interest and provides a valuable talking point / value proposition for the SAs to share with their customers.

Example:

C: Do you have the new Submariner?
SA: No, but we have plenty of DJs.
C: I’ve seen those before. You have anything else?
SA: Have you seen the OP? It’s ALL NEW and BIGGER?
C: Hmmm. I’ll take a look.
SA: Well, we don’t have those either but the new one is 41.
C: Sounds interesting.
SA: Here, try on this DJ41 — same size as the OP41.
C: You know, this DJ is OK and it’s the only model that I kinda like that you actually have. I guess I’ll just take this.
SA: That will be $14,000 for your TT DJ with rare Wimbledon dial. Great choice.
C: What the h___ just happened???

[georgekart]

Originally Posted by dmash

I fully agree that it’s not a big deal to focus on such, only what fits/looks good.

However, it still peaks my curiosity as to *why* Rolex continuously does this? As they’re definitely marketing it as a certain measurement and usually quite nitpicky over minute details. The sub41 being 40.5 is whatever, but saying something is a 41 and it actually measuring as a 39 seems silly and unnecessary. Why didn’t they just keep it called the OP39? Same could be said of DJ41, why not just market it as the true 39mm?

My guess is that it's for people who like larger watches. I know it puts some others off (for example, before trying one on at an AD I would have never considered DJ41 as in my mind 41 is too big for a dressier style watch, but 39 is great), but many people want a "bigger" watch. Saying it's 41 will bring those who want a large (read as larger than 40) watch.

[Be_Water]

For those that say that the listed vs actual dimension doesn’t matter, I disagree. I normally won’t even bother looking into anything beyond a 40mm because the end lug to lug of 41mm and greater watches usually pushes the limit of my wrist and lug overhang becomes an issue. Chop it down to 39mm and it is a completely different ballgame. Knowing now that it is actually 39mm vs 41mm may prompt me to go into an AD and try one on. It isn’t the consumer that obsesses over the details of number measurements. It is actually Rolex itself that purposely markets inaccurately for its own ability to ‘brand’ a supposedly bigger watch. Consumers just want to know as a starting point what will and won’t potentially fit well. So many thanks to the OP for the valuable information!

[Number3]

Originally Posted by Be_Water

For those that say that the listed vs actual dimension doesn’t matter, I disagree. I normally won’t even bother looking into anything beyond a 40mm because the end lug to lug of 41mm and greater watches usually pushes the limit of my wrist and lug overhang becomes an issue. Chop it down to 39mm and it is a completely different ballgame. Knowing now that it is actually 39mm vs 41mm may prompt me to go into an AD and try one on. It isn’t the consumer that obsesses over the details of number measurements. It is actually Rolex itself that purposely markets inaccurately for its own ability to ‘brand’ a supposedly bigger watch. Consumers just want to know as a starting point what will and won’t potentially fit well. So many thanks to the OP for the valuable information!

Perfectly put.

[jrs146]

Originally Posted by padi56

To be perfectly honest dont really care, as I choose the watch I want to own and wear not because of some perceived case size measurement. And in over 50 years of owning and wearing Rolex watches never felt the need to measure any watch I bought and owned.

Haha yeah I have to agree. There’s so much that goes into how a watch looks/feels on the wrist that ultimately it’s a matter of so you like it or not. Whether it’s 39.234587 or 41.0001 it’s either going to sing or its going to feel not so right. And the good news is there’s many others to choose from if it’s not the right one.


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[Texex]

Originally Posted by padi56

To be perfectly honest dont really care, as I choose the watch I want to own and wear not because of some perceived case size measurement. And in over 50 years of owning and wearing Rolex watches never felt the need to measure any watch I bought and owned.

True but case size does matter if you're having to order a watch sight unseen. My AD required a full deposit to get the new OPs so it would be helpful to know the size if you putting down $ and have never seen it. Other than that I agree that it's how the watch looks to you vs the size.

[brandrea]

Rolex likes to round up

[vh2k]

Originally Posted by brandrea

Rolex likes to round up

Or queue the standard rationalization...

Measure it across other places on the case until it measures 41mm.

[Kevin of Larchmont]

Newsflash: SUBWAY FOOTLONGS ARE NOT A FOOT LONG.

Addendum: Still a sandwich.

[stormshadow]

:)

Originally Posted by Kevin of Larchmont

Newsflash: SUBWAY FOOTLONGS ARE NOT A FOOT LONG.

Addendum: Still a sandwich.

[214270Explorer]

People can so oddly quibble over one mm.
0.03937 of an inch.
"Very Close" to the THICKNESS of a standard paper clip.

Boggles the mind that so little means so much.

[Tools]

Originally Posted by 214270Explorer

People can so oddly quibble over one mm.
0.03937 of an inch.
"Very Close" to the THICKNESS of a standard paper clip.

Boggles the mind that so little means so much.

Not only that, they are quibbling with partial facts.

Finding the smallest place to measure and proclaiming that this is the "actual" number, when there are a dozen other places to measure, which are larger than the advertised number, is no more accurate than measuring lug-to-lug and proclaiming that number is the true one.

[mmmmp]

Hallelujah! I can sleep tonight!!

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[Golfbone]

I have an OP 39 and compared it to the DJ41 and the dial looked bigger on the OP39 when I had them side by side. I was going to buy the DJ41 and give the OP39 to my son but I decided to keep the OP 39 give my son a Tudor Sub (which he returned......he felt guilty about it....thought it was too much money for me to spend on him if you can imagine that. I ended up giving him my 30 year old DJ 36 two tone bluesy and he loves it because I wore it for so many years and he now treasures it. Good kid!!!!)

[Rrpdc]

Still bigger than Daytona. Lol.

[EEpro]

Originally Posted by Rrpdc

Still bigger than Daytona. Lol.

For sure and feels like it.