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chris1973 · 30 April 2009, 01:11 AM

Hi,

I have just spoken to my AD who has one of the last V series Seadwellers in stock. I have my name down for a Sub LV should I go for the Seadweller? Reading peoples comments they are saying it will rise in value over the next few years?

Cheers,

Chris

Tools · 30 April 2009, 01:14 AM

Absolutely nobody can realistically predict what prices will do....

There are literally millions of SD's out there and no reason to expect that one serial number will be any more valuable than another in the long run...that just has not historically happened with watches..

Get the one that you want to wear on your wrist every day for the next decade of two..

BMAN8 · 30 April 2009, 05:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Tools

Absolutely nobody can realistically predict what prices will do....

There are literally millions of SD's out there and no reason to expect that one serial number will be any more valuable than another in the long run...that just has not historically happened with watches..

Get the one that you want to wear on your wrist every day for the next decade of two..

Good advice.

chris1973 · 30 April 2009, 09:15 PM

Thanks a lot for the great advice guys, I am going to go for the SD.

landroverking · 1 May 2009, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Tools

Absolutely nobody can realistically predict what prices will do....

There are literally millions of SD's out there and no reason to expect that one serial number will be any more valuable than another in the long run...that just has not historically happened with watches..

Get the one that you want to wear on your wrist every day for the next decade of two..

Tools are there really millions of SD's out there? Seems to me one million produced since 1971 would be a big number. Does Rolex or anyone else track the numbers?

Tools · 1 May 2009, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by landroverking

Tools are there really millions of SD's out there? Seems to me one million produced since 1971 would be a big number. Does Rolex or anyone else track the numbers?

Sorry......... I've been trying, like forever, to stop exaggerating...

that should have said thousands...

(my brain was on millions of Rolexes in general)

argee1977 · 1 May 2009, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by landroverking

Tools are there really millions of SD's out there? Seems to me one million produced since 1971 would be a big number. Does Rolex or anyone else track the numbers?

There won't be millions, but there will be tens of thousands of these, if Rolex produce 10000 of these each year, and the current design has been going on for a few years then you can see the numbers, personally i think in 20/30/40 years time the SD with lugholes will be worth more, as stated above historically nobody has cared about the year a watch was made (except for birth year watches), the things that matter are the rarity of the watch and sometimes its history (COMEX, MilSub, etc).

I cannot see any current Rolex being worth anything much in 20 or 30 years time compared to what we see today, Rolex just don't do small batches anymore, people take better care of their watches and there are a hell of a lot more safe queen watches sitting waiting for the future.

The best advice is to just wear it and enjoy it, every watch has a resale value, Rolex SS Sports have always had a higher than normal resale value so i doubt you'll lose any money in the long run, but i also doubt it will become valuable in the same way as a double red, red sub or others from the 60s and 70s, because they were produced in lower numbers and not a lot of them survived time as well as watches today will.

karmatp · 1 May 2009, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by argee1977

There won't be millions, but there will be tens of thousands of these, if Rolex produce 10000 of these each year, and the current design has been going on for a few years then you can see the numbers, personally i think in 20/30/40 years time the SD with lugholes will be worth more, as stated above historically nobody has cared about the year a watch was made (except for birth year watches), the things that matter are the rarity of the watch and sometimes its history (COMEX, MilSub, etc).

I cannot see any current Rolex being worth anything much in 20 or 30 years time compared to what we see today, Rolex just don't do small batches anymore, people take better care of their watches and there are a hell of a lot more safe queen watches sitting waiting for the future.

The best advice is to just wear it and enjoy it, every watch has a resale value, Rolex SS Sports have always had a higher than normal resale value so i doubt you'll lose any money in the long run, but i also doubt it will become valuable in the same way as a double red, red sub or others from the 60s and 70s, because they were produced in lower numbers and not a lot of them survived time as well as watches today will.

I agree with you Ryan that it's not going to a V serial SD that fetches a premium, it's going to be the classic SD with lug holes that collectors want. If I was going to buy a SD, I would prefer lug holes.

Meng16 · 30 April 2009, 01:26 AM

Go for it. It is a terrific watch, regardless of the serial number.

smallcandle · 30 April 2009, 01:28 AM

Between the two I would opt for the SD, but only because I prefer it. I don't know about future values but either watch will hold it's value quite well. Good luck!

cdweller · 30 April 2009, 01:42 AM

If you are buying a watch and already thinking about flipping potential, why buy? Stick with what you like and enjoy it!

RolexCat · 30 April 2009, 03:23 AM

Yeah use it!!!! I use my SD everyday. I would buy the watch you want the most, and use it!!!! Ron

Welshwatchman · 30 April 2009, 04:18 AM

There are too many safe queen V serial SDs to make it a great investment.

Buy it and slap it on your wrist. It's the last of a classic watch series and you'll always get much of your money back if you decide to change it in the future.

You know what they say " a SD in the hand is better than an LV in the bush".

They don't say that at all, do they.

Wildwing · 30 April 2009, 04:48 AM

I don't believe much of anything in the Rolex line would actually appreciate, save a few limited edition pieces. The Seadweller is a great watch. If you like it, buy it, and enjoy it.

JIM- · 30 April 2009, 04:51 AM

Sounds like you really wanted the LV, so I say wait it out. Then again it should be no problem to get one, so whats the wait about?

RolexCat · 1 May 2009, 04:09 AM

Great choice. The SD is a classic, and with the Sub. Ron

karmatp · 1 May 2009, 04:24 AM

No modern day Rolex will collectible like models from 40 years ago so buy the one you want and wear it. I don't know were this nonsense about one serial number being more collectible than another, it is just so silly. It's just a letter before a serial number, means absolutely nothing. If future collectors care about what letter is on a watch they a complete idiots, especially considering the other hundreds of thousands of the same exact watch that is out there. There have been drastic changes to Rolex sport models in the past and those models don't command much if any premium, with much lower production numbers, and someone is going to convince us that a letter stamped before the serial number is going to be collectible.

Does all this false hype start with AD's just trying to sell watches or what, I can't figure it out.

gettocard · 1 May 2009, 04:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chris1973

Hi,

I have just spoken to my AD who has one of the last V series Seadwellers in stock. I have my name down for a Sub LV should I go for the Seadweller? Reading peoples comments they are saying it will rise in value over the next few years?

Cheers,

Chris

Go for it !!! I've drooled over the LV for 5 years and when I've bought it after selling the SD I've got tired of it after only 2 months !! Now,of course,I miss the SD so much ...

sammiepug · 1 May 2009, 06:54 AM

SD is a great watch. I personally is not a big fan of the LV green - prefer the standard SS one.

Daytonaboy1977 · 1 May 2009, 08:01 AM

Best Rolex I have owned and I have had a few. If you have the chance of a V serial that is just a bonus!!! Can't imagine you would think of getting rid of it once you have owned it. I currently wear the V serial SD over my Daytonas, GV's and GMT!!!!!

Z-Sub · 1 May 2009, 11:09 AM

Both will be collectable for you if you like them both but not in financial sense. Maybe someone is willing to pay a couple of hundred dollars more for it but there was no changes in the movement or the dial to separate it from the Z or M or other serials.

The GMT Kid · 1 May 2009, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Z-Sub

Both will be collectable for you if you like them both but not in financial sense. Maybe someone is willing to pay a couple of hundred dollars more for it but there was no changes in the movement or the dial to separate it from the Z or M or other serials.

My local AD has an SD and I am considering it. I don't know the serial number but I have to ask "what is the advantage of a v serial number if any?"

Edit: Also, what changes have been made to the SD in the last ten years?

mck22 · 1 May 2009, 11:10 AM

I would go for the seadweller

30 April 2009, 01:11 AM	#1
chris1973 Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: york Posts: 38	V series Sea Dweller Hi, I have just spoken to my AD who has one of the last V series Seadwellers in stock. I have my name down for a Sub LV should I go for the Seadweller? Reading peoples comments they are saying it will rise in value over the next few years? Cheers, Chris

30 April 2009, 01:14 AM	#2
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,515	Absolutely nobody can realistically predict what prices will do.... There are literally millions of SD's out there and no reason to expect that one serial number will be any more valuable than another in the long run...that just has not historically happened with watches.. Get the one that you want to wear on your wrist every day for the next decade of two.. __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member

30 April 2009, 04:18 AM	#13
Welshwatchman "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Real Name: Paul Location: Wales, UK Posts: 14,578	There are too many safe queen V serial SDs to make it a great investment. Buy it and slap it on your wrist. It's the last of a classic watch series and you'll always get much of your money back if you decide to change it in the future. You know what they say " a SD in the hand is better than an LV in the bush". They don't say that at all, do they. __________________ ..33

1 May 2009, 04:24 AM	#17
karmatp "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Real Name: Trevor Location: Arizona Posts: 5,740	No modern day Rolex will collectible like models from 40 years ago so buy the one you want and wear it. I don't know were this nonsense about one serial number being more collectible than another, it is just so silly. It's just a letter before a serial number, means absolutely nothing. If future collectors care about what letter is on a watch they a complete idiots, especially considering the other hundreds of thousands of the same exact watch that is out there. There have been drastic changes to Rolex sport models in the past and those models don't command much if any premium, with much lower production numbers, and someone is going to convince us that a letter stamped before the serial number is going to be collectible. Does all this false hype start with AD's just trying to sell watches or what, I can't figure it out. __________________ My grails:

1 May 2009, 11:09 AM	#21
Z-Sub 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: So Cal, USA Watch: Not a ONEWatch Man Posts: 7,383	Both will be collectable for you if you like them both but not in financial sense. Maybe someone is willing to pay a couple of hundred dollars more for it but there was no changes in the movement or the dial to separate it from the Z or M or other serials. __________________ SS Submariner Date "Z" SS SeaDweller "D" SS Submariner "Random" TT Blue Submariner "P" SS GMT-Master ll "M", Pepsi Pam 311, 524, 297

30 April 2009, 09:15 PM	#4
chris1973 Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: york Posts: 38	Thanks a lot for the great advice guys, I am going to go for the SD.

30 April 2009, 01:26 AM	#9
Meng16 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Canada Watch: Sea Dweller "V" Posts: 102	Go for it. It is a terrific watch, regardless of the serial number.

30 April 2009, 01:28 AM	#10
smallcandle "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Real Name: Brian Location: Kansas Watch: 16610, Omega PO Posts: 1,898	Between the two I would opt for the SD, but only because I prefer it. I don't know about future values but either watch will hold it's value quite well. Good luck!

30 April 2009, 01:42 AM	#11
cdweller "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: PA Watch: SubLV, 1665 Rail Posts: 1,054	If you are buying a watch and already thinking about flipping potential, why buy? Stick with what you like and enjoy it!

30 April 2009, 03:23 AM	#12
RolexCat Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Ron Location: Michigan Watch: SD Posts: 318	Yeah use it!!!! I use my SD everyday. I would buy the watch you want the most, and use it!!!! Ron

30 April 2009, 04:48 AM	#14
Wildwing "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Virginia, USA Posts: 593	I don't believe much of anything in the Rolex line would actually appreciate, save a few limited edition pieces. The Seadweller is a great watch. If you like it, buy it, and enjoy it.

30 April 2009, 04:51 AM	#15
JIM- Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 599	Sounds like you really wanted the LV, so I say wait it out. Then again it should be no problem to get one, so whats the wait about?

1 May 2009, 04:09 AM	#16
RolexCat Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Ron Location: Michigan Watch: SD Posts: 318	Great choice. The SD is a classic, and with the Sub. Ron

1 May 2009, 06:54 AM	#19
sammiepug Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: USA Watch: V series SS Sub Posts: 92	SD is a great watch. I personally is not a big fan of the LV green - prefer the standard SS one.

1 May 2009, 08:01 AM	#20
Daytonaboy1977 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Uk Watch: Various Posts: 1,103	Best Rolex I have owned and I have had a few. If you have the chance of a V serial that is just a bonus!!! Can't imagine you would think of getting rid of it once you have owned it. I currently wear the V serial SD over my Daytonas, GV's and GMT!!!!!

1 May 2009, 11:10 AM	#23
mck22 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Brent Location: St Louis Watch: Rolex Sub Date Posts: 1,516	I would go for the seadweller __________________ 16610 Submariner GMT Master II 16710 1675

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