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Old 8 December 2020, 05:58 PM   #1
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Ready to buy my son his first Rolex- thoughts?

I have three kids- two daughters and a son. My son (the youngest) has grown into a wonderful young man, doing well in his studies (two majors), cares for myself and his mother, he's responsible for himself and cares for the family, and I'm just pleased with him overall. His 21st birthday is not far off and as he approaches the beginnings of his career I was hoping to get him something he'd remember and hopefully can pass on some day. I was hoping to get him a 124060 Submariner (he's obsessed over my 14060m for years), but after speaking to my local AD looks like the new Sub might be a difficult request. I've found a number of 114060's from well respected Grey Market Dealer's so that seems like a logical choice to me.

His watch is similar to mine, about 7" and he's been wearing a 40mm Seiko for some time now that fits my wrist quite well. Do you think the 114060 is an appropriate choice for the 'occasion', and will it be a good daily wearer? Should I only search for examples under warranty or would an earlier year Sub be fine in your opinion?

I remember these being ~$7k a few years ago, can't find one for under $10k these days. What's that about! Still, it's worth what I'm willing to pay at the end of the day I suppose.

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Old 8 December 2020, 06:05 PM   #2
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Would you consider giving him your current watch now or it’s not yet time? He seems like he’d value that.

If not, the 114060 is also quite good (and since he’s a watch person, unlike some young people, he would also treasure it).

You’re both lucky to have each other.
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Old 8 December 2020, 08:21 PM   #3
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Would you consider giving him your current watch now or it’s not yet time? He seems like he’d value that.

If not, the 114060 is also quite good (and since he’s a watch person, unlike some young people, he would also treasure it).

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Old 8 December 2020, 06:11 PM   #4
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Old 8 December 2020, 10:13 PM   #5
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Old 9 December 2020, 03:09 AM   #6
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Honestly, it's best if you buy him the new model, from an AD, in new condition.

The new model carries some significant improvements but far more importantly, it's a new watch, it will be HIS watch, and not somebody else's. If you get a preowned one, somebody else's name will be on the warranty/papers, and somebody else's history will be embedded into the watch. For such a meaningful item, the watch should strictly carry HIS history and your family heritage.

Of course, now-a-days it's nearly impossible to get a new model from an AD. Gone are the days when receiving a Rolex actually meant something. Now we live in the "investment era" where greed rules all, Rolex watches get flipped, and the ones that do get sold are only offered to VIP clients that already have a dozen or more models or to others that collect and leave them in boxes or safes where they are not even getting worn for fear of damage and little scratches here and there.

So, assuming you can't get from an AD (very likely scenario) then you'll have to either pay a huge premium and get from the grey market (make sure to get one that is unworn, new, with new warranty card) or move on to a different brand.
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Old 16 July 2021, 05:35 AM   #7
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Old 8 December 2020, 06:16 PM   #8
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One consideration, if going to resellers, is around August (maybe July) 2020, Rolex switched to new style warranty card. The new card no longer has the purchaser’s name on it — convenient for gifting!
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Old 8 December 2020, 06:17 PM   #9
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Congrats to him and yourself on his upcoming milestone.

The 114060 is an excellent first Rolex. I’d suggest topping up and going for the new 41mm Sub’s just launched.
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Old 8 December 2020, 06:19 PM   #10
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I think 114060 is a great choice, versatile yet not over the top.
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Old 8 December 2020, 06:29 PM   #11
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My advice to you would be let him buy his own watch with his own money.

Sorry dont mean to be rude but you cannot give kids everything on the platter.

Let him work for it.

And incase you absolutely want to give him a watch. Give him your old sub.. not a new one.

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Old 8 December 2020, 06:47 PM   #12
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My advice to you would be let him buy his own watch with his own money.

Sorry dont mean to be rude but you cannot give kids everything on the platter.

Let him work for it.

And incase you absolutely want to give him a watch. Give him your old sub.. not a new one.

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I do agree with this to some extent. As a father giving my children things that I didn't have access to at their age gives me some deep satisfaction. Maybe that's selfish in some way. I know he'd cherish it and keep it maybe forever, which is why I think it's a good choice for him.

Part of the reason the 114060 seems like a good choice is because I got my sub new many years back, and all the stories I have with this watch are mine. I think it'd be like that for him too..
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Old 9 December 2020, 01:00 AM   #13
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My advice to you would be let him buy his own watch with his own money.

Sorry dont mean to be rude but you cannot give kids everything on the platter.

Let him work for it.

And incase you absolutely want to give him a watch. Give him your old sub.. not a new one.

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What if he doesn’t use a platter?
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Old 9 December 2020, 09:36 PM   #14
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my advice to you would be let him buy his own watch with his own money.

Sorry dont mean to be rude but you cannot give kids everything on the platter.

Let him work for it.

And incase you absolutely want to give him a watch. Give him your old sub.. Not a new one.

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Old 16 July 2021, 05:14 AM   #15
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My advice to you would be let him buy his own watch with his own money.

Sorry dont mean to be rude but you cannot give kids everything on the platter.

Let him work for it.

And incase you absolutely want to give him a watch. Give him your old sub.. not a new one.

Just my opinion

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My advice,ignore this advice! I have given both my sons a Rolex for their 21st. I did it for the same reason as you are. It’s a lovely gesture that from the sound of it is very well deserved. A 114060 is a great choice and I’m sure he will treasure it because of who it came from.


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Old 8 December 2020, 06:38 PM   #16
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I’m guessing he would much prefer your watch over something purchased.


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Old 8 December 2020, 06:39 PM   #17
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I agree on giving him the 14060m
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Old 8 December 2020, 06:42 PM   #18
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I'd say a 114060 is an excellent first Rolex for your son. If possible, can get an unworn one via grey, preferably with the new warranty card with no names, then it'll be a perfect gift!
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Old 9 December 2020, 09:13 PM   #19
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I'd say a 114060 is an excellent first Rolex for your son. If possible, can get an unworn one via grey, preferably with the new warranty card with no names, then it'll be a perfect gift!
Just about to type a similar response. Grey with new name card would be great, it might be a 124060.
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Old 8 December 2020, 06:43 PM   #20
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Perhaps giving him the 14060m and picking myself up a 114060 would make sense... I've just grown so attached to it it'd be hard for me to move on haha

I'll put some thought into it. I think he does like the 114060m quie a bit. Seen him looking at pictures of it on his laptop once or twice...
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Old 8 December 2020, 06:52 PM   #21
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Give him yours, it will be much more valuable to him.

Buy another at a grey. Small premium for a lifetime ownership
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Buy another at a grey. Small premium for a lifetime ownership
I agree. Send it in for a service first (if needed.) Also, why not wait until graduation - a bigger accomplishment than a b-day. I received my dad's "old one" when I graduated and I plan to give it to my oldest daughter (no sons). Then pick out a new watch for yourself!!
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If I was in that situation, I trusted that my kid would appreciate the gift and not be a target at university then personally I would give him my 14060m for the sentimental reasons. It's just a watch to you. To him it equates find memories with his dad, perhaps!
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Old 8 December 2020, 07:00 PM   #24
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Do you have a different AD nearby you could try.

Yes the subs are very popular but people on here have been getting them in pretty quick. Especially the no date.

If you go to an AD and explain the backstory as you have done here, ADs are usually very receptive to that.

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Old 10 December 2020, 12:11 AM   #25
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If you go to an AD and explain the backstory as you have done here, ADs are usually very receptive to that.
I couldn't agree more. My better half went to both my AD's in the market, and even though we had zero buying history from either, asked to be on the wait list for the 124060 for my 40th birthday. Both told her it would be a long wait most likely as the lists were 10-15 ppl deep...low and behold, we got calls from both AD's within the month, saying they had one in and our story appealed to them as we were local and it was a special occasion. Good to know!
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Old 8 December 2020, 07:33 PM   #26
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Agree with comments here. Especially about letting your son work and not just buy it. Looks like he does deserve it from what you put out there.

Some additional thoughts.

- GMT instead of Sub if he plans to travel? More practical for an youngster.

- Perhaps not brand new or crazy grey prices but maybe a birth year watch? Not too difficult to find one from the 90s. More memorable.

- If you are set on a sub, give yours and get yourself a new one...


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Old 8 December 2020, 07:36 PM   #27
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Give him your 14060M if he likes it and wait for 124060 for yourself.
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Congratulations and well done on raising a young man to be proud of.
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Old 8 December 2020, 07:51 PM   #29
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I don't have a suggestion for a watch, but I just want to say that you sound like. great dad, and your boy sounds like a brilliant young man!
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Old 8 December 2020, 07:54 PM   #30
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I am close to having this same issue, my son is nearing graduation and I would like to do celebrate the day as well, my thoughts:

1. The "make him buy his own" is nonsense - no explanation needed
2. I wouldn't give him yours, I have my fathers sub and that will go to my son when I die, just like my fathers..(this only works if you plan to keep yours;)
3. I wouldn't buy him the same watch...I would go grey and buy him a 116710LN...different than yours, and a great daily wear

good luck to you and your son
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