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newkidonblock4 · 17 January 2021, 10:01 AM

Hello Everyone!

I was looking into Radial Dial 1675s and stumbled across these two.

Was wondering what people thought of them and if they were worth buying.

Thank you for taking the time to read through my post and providing your input.

http://www.thillier-time.com/portfol...dial-full-set/

http://www.exoticwatches.net/all-wat...d/#prettyPhoto

ketonjo · 27 January 2021, 03:26 AM

Maybe a tad expensive IMHO, but im a newb :/

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newkidonblock4 · 27 January 2021, 04:23 AM

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Originally Posted by ketonjo

Maybe a tad expensive IMHO, but im a newb :/

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Haha no, that's part of the reason I haven't bought it >.<

1665fan · 27 January 2021, 05:40 AM

I prefer the first one.....red hands to me are In the grey area w the blueberry insert to me....

Swearengen · 4 February 2021, 03:17 AM

Agreed, all red hand puts me off too

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Originally Posted by 1665fan

I prefer the first one.....red hands to me are In the grey area w the blueberry insert to me....

TimeLord2 · 27 January 2021, 06:10 AM

The cases for both look overly polished IMHO, but I am not an expert on this. I say that (first part) because the crown guards on the Thillier time option look asymetric and soft. they almost look like PCGs from the side. Although the sides are not too bad but have probably been refinished. On the other option, exotic watches, the lume looks very yellow, which is not to say that I have not seen examples on this site where that is correct. It has always been a little too much patina for my liking but there are certain years where this seems to happen. Not to mention the red arrow, which is entering blueberry territory as 1665fan pointed out. But again the case, specifically the profile. On this one, it looks like they shaved the tops of the lugs down a bit too much. Lug hole positioning looks off. Even looking between the lugs at the serial number, the angle on the lug to either side seems wrong. Wait for the real experts but thought I would give my .02. Good Luck!

Tom1675 · 27 January 2021, 07:05 AM

These mk3s have really gone up in value...

Dan S · 27 January 2021, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Tom1675

These mk3s have really gone up in value...

Yeah, I'd have a hard time paying that much, but that's what they are going for.

Tom1675 · 27 January 2021, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Dan S

Yeah, I'd have a hard time paying that much, but that's what they are going for.

Yeah, doesn't seem worth the premium imho.

Swearengen · 4 February 2021, 03:19 AM

They sure have, I think I paid £5k for mine not that many years ago

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Originally Posted by Tom1675

These mk3s have really gone up in value...

newkidonblock4 · 4 February 2021, 03:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Swearengen

They sure have, I think I paid £5k for mine not that many years ago

Beautiful watch man!

lee fowler · 4 February 2021, 04:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Swearengen

They sure have, I think I paid £5k for mine not that many years ago

Paid about the same for mine.

newkidonblock4 · 4 February 2021, 05:03 AM

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Originally Posted by lee fowler

Paid about the same for mine.

DANG!

Another killer watch. Nice!

lee fowler · 6 February 2021, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by newkidonblock4

DANG!

Another killer watch. Nice!

Thank you.

springer · 27 January 2021, 08:00 AM

It's amazing how these collectors love to add the red 24-hour hand to these radial dials. It's comical and not original.

newkidonblock4 · 27 January 2021, 08:39 AM

Thank you all for the feedback!

I think neither of these sound right then... One has a doubtful hand and the other seems too polished. Maybe one day I'll own a radial dial but that's definitely not today>.<

1675-David · 27 January 2021, 08:47 AM

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slimwristy · 6 February 2021, 01:37 AM

Those examples are stunning guys. Love this combo'd with the blueberry inserts.

Swearengen · 6 February 2021, 01:44 AM

BLUEBERRY

No such animal

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Originally Posted by slimwristy

Those examples are stunning guys. Love this combo'd with the blueberry inserts.

Pocosso · 6 February 2021, 05:51 PM

I love the Mk3 dials on 1675, my favorite combination is with "Allred" 24h hand too.
I see you guys are not big believer of the "Allred".

Swearengen · 6 February 2021, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Pocosso

I love the Mk3 dials on 1675, my favorite combination is with "Allred" 24h hand too.
I see you guys are not big believer of the "Allred".

Show me one in a Rolex sales brochure and I will believe in

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rootbeer7 · 6 February 2021, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Swearengen

Show me one in a Rolex sales brochure and I will believe in

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Here we go again

lee fowler · 6 February 2021, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Swearengen

Show me one in a Rolex sales brochure and I will believe in

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There was an official Rolex Japanese brochure that featured one all red Gmt hand and that was for sale on the VRM a few years back.

Swearengen · 6 February 2021, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by lee fowler

There was an official Rolex Japanese brochure that featured one all red Gmt hand and that was for sale on the VRM a few years back.

Could you please post a picture. Thanks.

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springer · 7 February 2021, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Pocosso

I love the Mk3 dials on 1675, my favorite combination is with "Allred" 24h hand too.
I see you guys are not big believer of the "Allred".

This "all red" hand anomaly has been discussed many times through the years on various forums and elsewhere. I believe you misinterpreted what I wrote and wasn't insinuating that Rolex never manufactured an "all red" 24-hour hand.

My belief based on evidence that I have seen and discussions with other knowledgeable collectors through the years is that the "all red" hand is genuine and were found on mostly Mark I era watches from the later part of the 1960s and some early 1970s models. (I have yet to see one on a Mark III GMT. The Mark III watches are notorious for being cobbled together with blueberry inserts and the all red GMT hand.) I've seen some fairly ratty "all reds" in watchmaker take-off hand boxes and on vintage Mark I GMTs and fully believe that they are genuine. Their appearance on the Mark III dials is a relatively new phenomenon the past 10 to years or so - which often times finds the all red hand and a blueberry insert on a radial GMTs.

Pocosso · 6 February 2021, 06:33 PM

I love that combination, I was believing that expert were taking it as service hand for military watches.
From my side I had a 1675, MK-2, with Allred hand and it has been serviced by Rolex many times without a complain.
Usually they remove any unofficial part.

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Pocosso · 6 February 2021, 08:13 PM

Lee,
I remember that. And I personally had a couple of serviced Watches with no problem.
One dear friend services a Blueberry in Geneva, no problem.

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lee fowler · 6 February 2021, 08:56 PM

Link to the thread here.

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=373668

Lee

Swearengen · 7 February 2021, 02:13 AM

Great link, thank you Lee.

If only there was a Blueberry in a brochure...........

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Originally Posted by lee fowler

Link to the thread here.

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=373668

Lee

lee fowler · 7 February 2021, 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Swearengen

Great link, thank you Lee.

If only there was a Blueberry in a brochure...........

17 January 2021, 10:01 AM	#1
newkidonblock4 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: USA Watch: Rolex Posts: 135	Radial 1675 GMT Inquiry Hello Everyone! I was looking into Radial Dial 1675s and stumbled across these two. Was wondering what people thought of them and if they were worth buying. Thank you for taking the time to read through my post and providing your input. http://www.thillier-time.com/portfol...dial-full-set/ http://www.exoticwatches.net/all-wat...d/#prettyPhoto

27 January 2021, 08:00 AM	#15
springer 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: jP Location: Texas Watch: GMT-MASTER Posts: 17,319	It's amazing how these collectors love to add the red 24-hour hand to these radial dials. It's comical and not original. __________________ Member of NAWCC since 1990. INSTAGRAM USER NAME: SPRINGERJFP Visit my Instagram page to view some of the finest vintage GMTs anywhere - as well as other vintage classics.

6 February 2021, 05:51 PM	#20
Pocosso "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2017 Real Name: Davide Location: Italy Watch: RO/ROO/PAM/DAYTONA Posts: 402	I love the Mk3 dials on 1675, my favorite combination is with "Allred" 24h hand too. I see you guys are not big believer of the "Allred". __________________ 5167-5711 6217-8001 16520A-16520E-16500-116610LV-166710LN-16760-16030-16570T- ROO(Ti)-RO-ROC PAN0055-PAM351-PAM733-PAM721 Type XX-XXI

6 February 2021, 06:33 PM	#26
Pocosso "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2017 Real Name: Davide Location: Italy Watch: RO/ROO/PAM/DAYTONA Posts: 402	I love that combination, I was believing that expert were taking it as service hand for military watches. From my side I had a 1675, MK-2, with Allred hand and it has been serviced by Rolex many times without a complain. Usually they remove any unofficial part. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro __________________ 5167-5711 6217-8001 16520A-16520E-16500-116610LV-166710LN-16760-16030-16570T- ROO(Ti)-RO-ROC PAN0055-PAM351-PAM733-PAM721 Type XX-XXI

6 February 2021, 08:13 PM	#27
Pocosso "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2017 Real Name: Davide Location: Italy Watch: RO/ROO/PAM/DAYTONA Posts: 402	Lee, I remember that. And I personally had a couple of serviced Watches with no problem. One dear friend services a Blueberry in Geneva, no problem. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro __________________ 5167-5711 6217-8001 16520A-16520E-16500-116610LV-166710LN-16760-16030-16570T- ROO(Ti)-RO-ROC PAN0055-PAM351-PAM733-PAM721 Type XX-XXI

27 January 2021, 03:26 AM	#2
ketonjo "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2020 Location: Jakarta Watch: 1675 Pepsi 1968 Posts: 20	Maybe a tad expensive IMHO, but im a newb :/ Sent from my HD1900 using Tapatalk

27 January 2021, 05:40 AM	#4
1665fan "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: East coast Posts: 6,660	I prefer the first one.....red hands to me are In the grey area w the blueberry insert to me....

27 January 2021, 06:10 AM	#6
TimeLord2 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Valencia, CA Watch: GMT Master 1675/3 Posts: 2,191	The cases for both look overly polished IMHO, but I am not an expert on this. I say that (first part) because the crown guards on the Thillier time option look asymetric and soft. they almost look like PCGs from the side. Although the sides are not too bad but have probably been refinished. On the other option, exotic watches, the lume looks very yellow, which is not to say that I have not seen examples on this site where that is correct. It has always been a little too much patina for my liking but there are certain years where this seems to happen. Not to mention the red arrow, which is entering blueberry territory as 1665fan pointed out. But again the case, specifically the profile. On this one, it looks like they shaved the tops of the lugs down a bit too much. Lug hole positioning looks off. Even looking between the lugs at the serial number, the angle on the lug to either side seems wrong. Wait for the real experts but thought I would give my .02. Good Luck!

27 January 2021, 07:05 AM	#7
Tom1675 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Real Name: Tom Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,187	These mk3s have really gone up in value...

27 January 2021, 08:39 AM	#16
newkidonblock4 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: USA Watch: Rolex Posts: 135	Thank you all for the feedback! I think neither of these sound right then... One has a doubtful hand and the other seems too polished. Maybe one day I'll own a radial dial but that's definitely not today>.<

27 January 2021, 08:47 AM	#17
1675-David "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Stockholm Posts: 6,061	.

6 February 2021, 01:37 AM	#18
slimwristy "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2021 Location: UK Posts: 96	Those examples are stunning guys. Love this combo'd with the blueberry inserts.

6 February 2021, 08:56 PM	#28
lee fowler 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: UK Watch: GMT Posts: 2,559	Link to the thread here. https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=373668 Lee __________________ Instagram: @lee1563

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