Should I wait to purchase...?

[lessthanzero]

I have saved for two years and have enough to purchase a new SS Sub. I really want to buy a No Date, but am worried about the new model that will be released within a year. It's not that I am that interested in the new features, it's more that I wonder if I might be able to get the 14060M cheaper down the road once the new version is available. Do you think this will be the case?

In other words, would there be any benefit to waiting to purchase a submariner ? Thanks all.

[ijen0311]

I would go for it now. Something newer will always be on the horizon.

In other news, I love your screename

[scottschoe]

I wouldn't. Who knows what the economy will be like next year; all I know is that stuff is dirt cheap these days. Not to mention price increases.

[diablojota]

To be honest, your best bet is to probably go ahead and purchase now. If they release a new ND at Basel next year, it will be invariably more expensive. The previous NDs will be out of production by that point then.

Typically with these things, especially if you go to an AD, waiting to purchase later can be more costly.

Are you looking to buy used or new or have you considered gray market?

Welcome to the forum and Less Than Zero was a fantastic movie!

[lessthanzero]

Woah, those were fast responses! I was actually thinking about purchasing one from Elite Time. They have some good deals on that special auction site. Have any of you heard about these guys?

I actually liked American Psycho more, but I thought those who weren't aware of BEE might think I was crazy. Thanks for the comments though!

[ijen0311]

Originally Posted by lessthanzero

Woah, those were fast responses! I was actually thinking about purchasing one from Elite Time. They have some good deals on that special auction site. Have any of you heard about these guys?

I actually liked American Psycho more, but I thought those who weren't aware of BEE might think I was crazy. Thanks for the comments though!

I have a friend we nicknamed "Carruthers." good stuff...

[bodybump]

well no one knows might take a year or two..and if it comes out it will be crazy above msrp..before you can get your hands into it it will be a long wait..then before you get it at a cheaper price it will be after 1-2 years after its released...so might aswell buy now and save for the next one..

[Tools]

Welcome to the Forum

My view is that the 14060M will not be discontinued. If they discontinue any Sub, it will be the 16610 as the ceramic model replaces it..

But, even if they did, you would be looking at almost 2 years down the road before they got to market, and then prices on the discontinued models would likely go up rather than down..

[diablojota]

Originally Posted by Tools

Welcome to the Forum

My view is that the 14060M will not be discontinued. If they discontinue any Sub, it will be the 16610 as the ceramic model replaces it..

But, even if they did, you would be looking at almost 2 years down the road before they got to market, and then prices on the discontinued models would likely go up rather than down..

So you don't think they'll upgrade the ND sub with the 16610?

[Tools]

Originally Posted by diablojota

So you don't think they'll upgrade the ND sub with the 16610?

No, I don't...

They don't share hardlly anything except looks...

The 14060M has the traditional lug-holes case, a smaller early size bezel and insert, the original 93150, flat blade hollow end-link dive extension bracelet, and it has been consistently one of the best sellers ever.

None of this stuff has been changed as the 16610 has been upgraded; so as the lone survivor in what has been a legacy piece for Rolex from the 5513 to the 14060, I don't think that it will get the axe.

[diablojota]

Originally Posted by Tools

No, I don't...

They don't share hardlly anything except looks...

The 14060M has the traditional lug-holes case, a smaller early size bezel and insert, the original 93150, flat blade hollow end-link dive extension bracelet, and it has been consistently one of the best sellers ever.

None of this stuff has been changed as the 16610 has been upgraded; so as the lone survivor in what has been a legacy piece for Rolex from the 5513 to the 14060, I don't think that it will get the axe.

Excellent. That's good to know. I guess the only real difference then is deciding if you want the Pre-COSC lettering or Post-COSC.

[mcjp6]

Originally Posted by lessthanzero

In other words, would there be any benefit to waiting to purchase a submariner ? Thanks all.

Do it now! Life is too short to wait around.

[Watchdog]

No doubt . . . Buy it now. The discounts are amazing, and I can't see them getting much lower. Besides, we must enjoy what we want NOW. There are absolutely no guarantees about tomorrow--maximize the time you have and let Rolex measure it!

Hey, I should make that my catchphrase--"Maximize the time you have and let Rolex measure it!"

[kcmo]

I agree with the others....GO FOR IT NOW!!!!

And then come back with photos!!!

[lessthanzero]

Am I allowed to link auction items in here? Everything here seems legit, but I wanted to get your opinions first.

[kyle L]

The prices right now are really good. Check out timezone or the sales corner here for great deals.

[lessthanzero]

Any opinions on this:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ROLEX-SS-SUBMARI...3A1%7C294%3A50

I emailed the seller and he said the warranty card is AD stamped and that he will fill in the name and date for me before it's sent. Therefore, I am assuming it would be the same as going to an AD myself, but cheaper.

Am I missing something important here?

And I have been checking the sales here and at WUS.

[Tools]

Originally Posted by lessthanzero

Any opinions on this:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ROLEX-SS-SUBMARI...3A1%7C294%3A50

I emailed the seller and he said the warranty card is AD stamped and that he will fill in the name and date for me before it's sent. Therefore, I am assuming it would be the same as going to an AD myself, but cheaper.

Am I missing something important here?

And I have been checking the sales here and at WUS.

Well, no, it's not the same. And just having a re-seller fill in your name does not make the warranty valid.....

I think his price is high..

Have you looked into the very reliable Gray Dealers WWW.SwissLuxury.com and www.AllanFurman.com

[diablojota]

Originally Posted by Tools

Well, no, it's not the same. And just having a re-seller fill in your name does not make the warranty valid.....

I think his price is high..

Have you looked into the very reliable Gray Dealers WWW.SwissLuxury.com and www.AllanFurman.com

x2. Swiss Luxury and Alan Furman are both quite reputable gray dealers. Definitely contact them before purchasing (if you're interested in going this route) and seeing about getting the price reduced.

[Watchdog]

Originally Posted by Tools

Well, no, it's not the same. And just having a re-seller fill in your name does not make the warranty valid.....

I think his price is high..

Have you looked into the very reliable Gray Dealers WWW.SwissLuxury.com and www.AllanFurman.com

Tools, could you expand upon the part about "Just having a re-seller fill in your name does not make the warranty valid" a little? What exactly are the implications for the buyer?

Thanks.

[Tools]

Originally Posted by kingkongkelley

Tools, could you expand upon the part about "Just having a re-seller fill in your name does not make the warranty valid" a little? What exactly are the implications for the buyer?

Thanks.

Any legitimate Gray Market Dealer will tell a buyer up front that Rolex USA does not recognize second party warranties.. They will not leave you wondering or imply that buying from a non-AD, with a blank card, gives you a valid warranty...

Some still choose to buy, fill in their own name, and hope that it slips by any close scrutiny if the watch needs warranty work.

[lessthanzero]

I like them both... I'd really take either, whichever I could get a better deal on I suppose. The dial is not a deal breaker for me as it is to some others.

[lessthanzero]

Yeah, I have looked at Furman. His price for a new 14060M is pretty reasonable. But what about HIS warranty vs Rolex?

[diablojota]

I believe they match the Rolex warranty and they have their own watchmaker on hand. I've never had to use the warranty, personally, and I don't think many have. I think they only thing that you could possibly run into is with regards to the watch needing regulation and they can do that without question.

[lessthanzero]

For those who have purchased from Furman, are the prices negotiable? I assumed since they were already 20% off or so they could have the upper hand with that.

[diablojota]

Originally Posted by lessthanzero

For those who have purchased from Furman, are the prices negotiable? I assumed since they were already 20% off or so they could have the upper hand with that.

Yes they are. I did negotiate with them, but ended up not purchasing (for personal reasons and nothing to do with Furman).

[diablojota]

Here you go, a preloved Rolex for less than 3k:
http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=79207

[lessthanzero]

Originally Posted by diablojota

Here you go, a preloved Rolex for less than 3k:
http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=79207

Thanks for that! Looks good, but I worry about purchasing pre-owned and not having a warranty. I guess I am pretty paranoid about things going wrong. I figure, if you are going to buy used, why not buy grey market? It's not that much more and at least you get some sort of a warranty.

[diablojota]

Originally Posted by lessthanzero

Thanks for that! Looks good, but I worry about purchasing pre-owned and not having a warranty. I guess I am pretty paranoid about things going wrong. I figure, if you are going to buy used, why not buy grey market? It's not that much more and at least you get some sort of a warranty.

Given the age of that watch, I would assume that it has been serviced (especially since it looks so good). You should ask the seller, he's definitely one of the best on this forum.

But with the savings on the watch (and if it has been serviced in the past 2-3 years) who cares? Worst case it costs you 550 to have it serviced and you're still coming out ahead of the game.

[Imtiaz]

Originally Posted by lessthanzero

I have saved for two years and have enough to purchase a new SS Sub. I really want to buy a No Date, but am worried about the new model that will be released within a year. It's not that I am that interested in the new features, it's more that I wonder if I might be able to get the 14060M cheaper down the road once the new version is available. Do you think this will be the case?

In other words, would there be any benefit to waiting to purchase a submariner ? Thanks all.

Can you tell me where you read about a new model of the No Date Sub. I have not seen any write ups or dealer notices on the subject.

If indeed the 14060M NDS goes out of production, the COSC model will be quite valuable. It has had a life of around 2 years to date. (Correct me if I am wrong please). Prior to that it was the non COSC type.

So getting a NDS now would be a pretty good deal.