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DSplash · 9 October 2021, 06:15 PM

Hi
I’ve been offered this mkV 1680 and am wondering what to think of its case : is it in very good condition or most likely welded/refinished?
The CG in particular look very thick, more than I would expect but when I look at other original examples online, I see No consistency in the CG’s size, even between unmolested pieces.
The seller says it’s been polished once by a very skilled Rolex polished before he bought it 2 years ago and almost not worn since.
Pictures are not amazing but they are all I have for now…
Thanks!

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antrolexsub · 9 October 2021, 08:32 PM

That’s a very chunky case. Do you have pictures of the engravings?

DSplash · 9 October 2021, 09:32 PM

Not yet, but I should have them later today

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1675-David · 9 October 2021, 10:21 PM

the law of probability says professionally renovated as does the brushing on the top of the lugs though the pictures could be playing tricks, NOS red 1680's are extremely rare. here is one to compare with.

https://rolexpassionmarket.com/watch...tion-full-set/

MorningTundra · 9 October 2021, 10:36 PM

In the next pics, ask him to move the hour hand off the specification text. It’s obscuring important details… yes, I agree the case is suspiciously sharp and crisp.

swish77 · 10 October 2021, 12:17 AM

That case has definitely been recut/refinished/restored, whatever term you want to use. It looks great, but I’d want to see the engravings to confirm authenticity.

BTW, not sure I’ve seen font quite that fat on a 1680 insert before. I guess the lighting could be accentuating it, but it is quite extreme.

DSplash · 10 October 2021, 12:38 AM

Here are the engravings :

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DSplash · 10 October 2021, 12:40 AM

For a good comparison basis, here is my 3.4M red sub’s crown guards, and this one is most likely unpolished (true barn find^^)

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antrolexsub · 10 October 2021, 01:26 AM

Case is real. Definitely welded and lapped though.

zapokee · 10 October 2021, 02:44 PM

Case has been nicely detailed and brushed. Looks like the fine work of those LA guys.

snakeeyes · 10 October 2021, 04:36 PM

Thats a lovely piece and good example of how to take nice photos for us to all drool over. Cheers bro

cts · 12 October 2021, 12:01 AM

Beautiful but definitely restored. Box/Papers? Spacing between numbers seems a bit wide to me.

springer · 12 October 2021, 01:27 AM

Looks like a nice example of a professionally refinished case. Nothing wrong with that at all. Some buyers like a nicely refinished case while others prefer a ratty, old, dinged and scratched case. You make the call, it's your money.

9 October 2021, 06:15 PM	#1
DSplash "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Paris Posts: 258	Thoughts on this 1680’s case Hi I’ve been offered this mkV 1680 and am wondering what to think of its case : is it in very good condition or most likely welded/refinished? The CG in particular look very thick, more than I would expect but when I look at other original examples online, I see No consistency in the CG’s size, even between unmolested pieces. The seller says it’s been polished once by a very skilled Rolex polished before he bought it 2 years ago and almost not worn since. Pictures are not amazing but they are all I have for now… Thanks! Envoyé de mon iPhone en utilisant Tapatalk

12 October 2021, 01:27 AM	#13
springer 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: jP Location: Texas Watch: GMT-MASTER Posts: 17,319	Looks like a nice example of a professionally refinished case. Nothing wrong with that at all. Some buyers like a nicely refinished case while others prefer a ratty, old, dinged and scratched case. You make the call, it's your money. __________________ Member of NAWCC since 1990. INSTAGRAM USER NAME: SPRINGERJFP Visit my Instagram page to view some of the finest vintage GMTs anywhere - as well as other vintage classics.

9 October 2021, 08:32 PM	#2
antrolexsub "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Earth Posts: 766	That’s a very chunky case. Do you have pictures of the engravings?

9 October 2021, 09:32 PM	#3
DSplash "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Paris Posts: 258	Not yet, but I should have them later today Envoyé de mon iPhone en utilisant Tapatalk

9 October 2021, 10:21 PM	#4
1675-David "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Stockholm Posts: 6,061	the law of probability says professionally renovated as does the brushing on the top of the lugs though the pictures could be playing tricks, NOS red 1680's are extremely rare. here is one to compare with. https://rolexpassionmarket.com/watch...tion-full-set/

9 October 2021, 10:36 PM	#5
MorningTundra "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Real Name: Morningtundra Location: USA, UK & HKG Posts: 1,038	In the next pics, ask him to move the hour hand off the specification text. It’s obscuring important details… yes, I agree the case is suspiciously sharp and crisp.

10 October 2021, 12:17 AM	#6
swish77 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Aaron Location: CT/NYC Watch: ing the time! Posts: 6,999	That case has definitely been recut/refinished/restored, whatever term you want to use. It looks great, but I’d want to see the engravings to confirm authenticity. BTW, not sure I’ve seen font quite that fat on a 1680 insert before. I guess the lighting could be accentuating it, but it is quite extreme.

10 October 2021, 12:38 AM	#7
DSplash "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Paris Posts: 258	Here are the engravings : Envoyé de mon iPhone en utilisant Tapatalk

10 October 2021, 12:40 AM	#8
DSplash "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Paris Posts: 258	For a good comparison basis, here is my 3.4M red sub’s crown guards, and this one is most likely unpolished (true barn find^^) Envoyé de mon iPhone en utilisant Tapatalk

10 October 2021, 01:26 AM	#9
antrolexsub "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Earth Posts: 766	Case is real. Definitely welded and lapped though.

10 October 2021, 02:44 PM	#10
zapokee "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Japan Posts: 4,367	Case has been nicely detailed and brushed. Looks like the fine work of those LA guys.

10 October 2021, 04:36 PM	#11
snakeeyes Banned Join Date: Jun 2021 Location: New Zealand Posts: 97	Thats a lovely piece and good example of how to take nice photos for us to all drool over. Cheers bro

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12 October 2021, 12:01 AM	#12
cts "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: USA Posts: 888	Beautiful but definitely restored. Box/Papers? Spacing between numbers seems a bit wide to me.