Positioning for accuracy

[TheVTCGuy]

Ok, someone help me please....

This is related to a recent post about accuracy. Somone was not satisfied with their Rolex (I think it was a GMT) even though it was in COSC limits, and several of you guys that are more intagnl- intelgin- intalgint- SMARTER then me offered suggestions on how he could speed up or slow down the movement by the position he placed the watch in at night.

My Daytona was running over +10 sec a day, so I had it regulated and it is now at about +3. I am completely satisfied with this, but thought if it really made a difference, why not put it in the proper position that would slow it down at night, and make it even more accurate. Right now, I just toss (not literally of course) it on the night stand and whichever position it was in stayed there until morning. So, I asked: "Which position should I place the watch in to slow it down?" (I think it was) Larry, said placing it on it's side, crown up, would acomplish this. I was already to try it when I got another 5,297 PMs from TRFers, telling me up, down, on it's back, at a 47 degree angle to the moon, put it in the freezer, microwave, flush a toilet near it before you go to bed so the vortex of the swirling motion... etc. etc. etc. Although I am open minded, the one about holding the watch in my left hand, standing on one leg, facing East and howling at North star over my right shoulder was a bit much... So...

Can anyone verify, (if it's even true by the way), which particular position placing my Dayton in on the dresser at night would slow the movement down?

Thanks, and as always, Love Live the JJ!

[SLS]

Every watch has its own quirks, the best thing to do is test the watch nightly and see what position slows it down or speeds it up.
Scott

[padi56]

Originally Posted by TheVTCGuy

Ok, someone help me please....

This is related to a recent post about accuracy. Somone was not satisfied with their Rolex (I think it was a GMT) even though it was in COSC limits, and several of you guys that are more intagnl- intelgin- intalgint- SMARTER then me offered suggestions on how he could speed up or slow down the movement by the position he placed the watch in at night.

My Daytona was running over +10 sec a day, so I had it regulated and it is now at about +3. I am completely satisfied with this, but thought if it really made a difference, why not put it in the proper position that would slow it down at night, and make it even more accurate. Right now, I just toss (not literally of course) it on the night stand and whichever position it was in stayed there until morning. So, I asked: "Which position should I place the watch in to slow it down?" (I think it was) Larry, said placing it on it's side, crown up, would acomplish this. I was already to try it when I got another 5,297 PMs from TRFers, telling me up, down, on it's back, at a 47 degree angle to the moon, put it in the freezer, microwave, flush a toilet near it before you go to bed so the vortex of the swirling motion... etc. etc. etc. Although I am open minded, the one about holding the watch in my left hand, standing on one leg, facing East and howling at North star over my right shoulder was a bit much... So...

Can anyone verify, (if it's even true by the way), which particular position placing my Dayton in on the dresser at night would slow the movement down?

Thanks, and as always, Love Live the JJ!

Myself plus a few others have posted this many times in forum.But for just +3 seconds why bother just hack a re-set it once a week.

[frank gama]

Originally Posted by padi56

Myself plus a few others have posted this many times in forum.But for just +3 seconds why bother just hack a re-set it once a week.

Interesting the leaflet describes positions 1 , 2 and 3 to gain a few seconds, lose a few seconds and lose more than a few seconds resp. This then leaves us with position 4 ie dial/crystal down which they dont mention. Does this imply that the crystal down is the default or neutral position that every one else whos happy with their accuracy is supposed to leave their watches in?

[TheVTCGuy]

That was perfect PADI, many thanks to the TRF Executive Officer!

I agree 3 secs a day is more then acceptable, but what the heck? If by placing it in a certain postion every night I can get it spot on, why not try it?

[Imtiaz]

Paul, does 3 seconds really bother you?

Here, where the bullet trains leave and arrive 800 kM later at the exact minute, we still tolerate a few seconds a day.

The Daytona is an exceptional watch. Enjoy it.

[TheVTCGuy]

Originally Posted by Imtiaz

Paul, does 3 seconds really bother you?

Here, where the bullet trains leave and arrive 800 kM later at the exact minute, we still tolerate a few seconds a day.

The Daytona is an exceptional watch. Enjoy it.

I thought you were going to give me one of those algebra questions...

"Train A leaves the station heading East at 59 Miles per Hour, Train B leaves the same station... blah blah blah... ?"

[Alcan]

Originally Posted by TheVTCGuy

Can anyone verify, (if it's even true by the way), which particular position placing my Dayton in on the dresser at night would slow the movement down? thumbsup:

No problem, mi Amigo. Place it in a FedEx pouch and send it up to me. I'll make sure it runs within COSC specs for a couple of years or so then I'll ship it back.

[TheVTCGuy]

Originally Posted by Alcan

No problem, mi Amigo. Place it in a FedEx pouch and send it up to me. I'll make sure it runs within COSC specs for a couple of years or so then I'll ship it back.

Thanks for the help Al... I really appreciate it. You should have it in a couple days...

[f16570]

The accuracy is not the issue, for me it is the fact that something mechanical can be, when regulated so damn accurate. AMAZING.

[Mathemagician]

Crystal down is very fast.

[al_bongo]

My 14060M doesn't seem to be greatly affected one way or another by any of these positons.

[padi56]

Originally Posted by al_bongo

My 14060M doesn't seem to be greatly affected one way or another by any of these positons.

Quite true most of the hi beat movements 28800 BPH today are not so effected,but some will pull back or lose a second or so.

Originally Posted by Mathemagician

Crystal down is very fast.

Would hardly call it very fast but in the dial down position
movement would tent to gain the most, but we are talking about a few seconds no more.

[pdmlynek]

Please forgive my ignorance (I am still pretty new to this Rolex world), but a little bit on an anal retentive tangent: Isn’t the proper term for how well a watch keeps time called the PRECISION of a watch instead of the ACCURACY of a watch? The latter term I think describes how closely the watch tells the actual time, which is a totally different concept from precision. Or are these used interchangeably in the watch universe?

[Tools]

Originally Posted by pdmlynek

Please forgive my ignorance (I am still pretty new to this Rolex world), but a little bit on an anal retentive tangent: Isn’t the proper term for how well a watch keeps time called the PRECISION of a watch instead of the ACCURACY of a watch? The latter term I think describes how closely the watch tells the actual time, which is a totally different concept from precision. Or are these used interchangeably in the watch universe?

Yes.......... most Rolex watches are very precise in that they consistently run at a + or - fugure on a regular basis..

If you have a precise watch, then it is easy to adjust it to some degree of accuracy over time..

But we don't stand on such "correctness" here. We like to think that we are intelligent enough to understand what our members are trying to say given the international flavor of the boards, and the fact that language does not always interchange precisely.

[frank gama]

Originally Posted by pdmlynek

Please forgive my ignorance (I am still pretty new to this Rolex world), but a little bit on an anal retentive tangent: Isn’t the proper term for how well a watch keeps time called the PRECISION of a watch instead of the ACCURACY of a watch? The latter term I think describes how closely the watch tells the actual time, which is a totally different concept from precision. Or are these used interchangeably in the watch universe?

I agree with you absolutely. What I was trying to do was improve on the accuracy of the watch by positioning it correctly. Positioning should not affect precision beyond the -4/+6 COSC stipulation.

[Mathemagician]

You are correct on the precision vs. accuracy issue. If this is a cause you are brave enough to take up, it's going to be a very uphill battle.