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Old 4 January 2022, 07:09 AM   #1
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Rolex Decision - Submariner or Explorer

So my non-WIS Dad, knowing of my love for watches, for Xmas and my 40th birthday told me he would like to buy me a Rolex Explorer or Rolex of my choice, but at retail. My Dad knows the Explorer because he was gifted one 15ish years ago - and he has worn it every day since. This is the first time I've ever received a watch as a gift.

Needless to say, this surprised and elated me, except I knew the chances of finding one at present would be very difficult.

That said, aside from supply issues, I'm trying to decide between the Rolex Explorer and the Rolex Submariner (no-date). After visiting an AD (twice already) I really have my heart set on finding a Submariner. The DNA it shares with my current favorite, Tudor Pelagos, is apparent, but it still feels distinct.

I want to want the Explorer instead of the Submariner, but I think the Explorer maybe a watch I would need to live with to fall in love with...and I'm already smitten with the idea of a Submariner. Has anyone else resolved a similar dilemma?

My current collection is a Tudor Pelagos (2-Line Black), Omega Aqua Terra 39mm Blue, Sinn 6000, and Nomos Orion 35mm.

Lastly, he really wants this to be a Rolex. He isn't familiar with other watch brands (Patek, Glashutte, IWC, none of these names mean anything to him).

Appreciate any insights.

Happy New Year.

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Old 4 January 2022, 07:24 AM   #2
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An sub is something you can wear with everything and stands the test of time
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Old 4 January 2022, 07:43 AM   #3
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Explorer 1 or 2 polar.


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Old 4 January 2022, 07:58 AM   #4
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get the sub if thats what you really want. the Explorer will not satisfy you given that's the case.
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Old 4 January 2022, 08:01 AM   #5
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get the sub if thats what you really want. the Explorer will not satisfy you given that's the case.
Well said and my advice. If the Sub sings to you, it doesn’t matter what features or how popular any other watch is, go with it.


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Old 4 January 2022, 08:19 AM   #6
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Well said and my advice. If the Sub sings to you, it doesn’t matter what features or how popular any other watch is, go with it.


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Old 4 January 2022, 08:08 AM   #7
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Get the one you want. I would take the Sub over the Explorer all day.
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Old 4 January 2022, 08:10 AM   #8
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Old 4 January 2022, 08:13 AM   #9
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Very easy choice for me. Sub.
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Old 4 January 2022, 08:13 AM   #10
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Old 4 January 2022, 08:14 AM   #11
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Submariner would definitely be my first choice.
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Old 4 January 2022, 08:19 AM   #12
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1. Get what you want.
2. Unless you think it would bring your dad extra joy to see the same watch on you as he wears everyday.
3. Or you are able to more easily find an Explorer at MSRP .

Seriously, though, when it comes to gifts, some thought should be given to the giver, and what will bring them joy in giving it.
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Old 4 January 2022, 08:22 AM   #13
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I had them all... 114270, 16610, 14060, and even a 16570.

Never understood why people say things like “sub all day, every day”. I have had the date version + no date version and I found myself in the OP’s situation in reverse... I was trying to love the sub and tried to justify by saying that I have the sub that everyone is talking about. Needless to say that only the 114270 stayed for years until I finally managed to get the new 124270 and sold my 14270.
The sub was very boring and uncomfortable for me... Tried to love it but gave up after a few months.

So I would say, Explorer by a mile for me.
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Old 4 January 2022, 09:32 AM   #14
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I had them all... 114270, 16610, 14060, and even a 16570.

Never understood why people say things like “sub all day, every day”. I have had the date version + no date version and I found myself in the OP’s situation in reverse... I was trying to love the sub and tried to justify by saying that I have the sub that everyone is talking about. Needless to say that only the 114270 stayed for years until I finally managed to get the new 124270 and sold my 14270.
The sub was very boring and uncomfortable for me... Tried to love it but gave up after a few months.

So I would say, Explorer by a mile for me.

+1. Also, who doesn’t have a sub? Don’t see explorer twice a day.


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Old 4 January 2022, 08:24 AM   #15
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Would your dad be interested in adopting another son?
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Old 7 January 2022, 05:20 AM   #16
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Would your dad be interested in adopting another son?
or, maybe 2 sons?
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Old 4 January 2022, 08:27 AM   #17
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After visiting an AD (twice already) I really have my heart set on finding a Submariner. The DNA it shares with my current favorite, Tudor Pelagos, is apparent, but it still feels distinct.

I want to want the Explorer instead of the Submariner, but I think the Explorer maybe a watch I would need to live with to fall in love with...and I'm already smitten with the idea of a Submariner.

Appreciate any insights.
Your insight is the only one that matters, and you you appear to have already answered your own question. Your way forward seems clear.

Congratulations and good luck with it.
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Old 4 January 2022, 08:30 AM   #18
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Sounds like you really want the Sub, so why buy a watch you need to live with to fall in love with? Decision made.
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Old 4 January 2022, 08:34 AM   #19
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Old 4 January 2022, 08:35 AM   #20
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I bought the Sub as my first one. Between the two - the Sub.
It seems you have already made your choice.
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Old 4 January 2022, 08:44 AM   #21
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I would say get the new explorer 124270. When I first got into Rolex watches I wasn't sure if I wanted a Submariner or Explorer. After doing research I really didn't care for the ceramic bezels which were new at the time. I ended up not carring for the 39mm explorer that much and I went with a submariner. I have a 6 inch wrist and imo 40mm is large but not impossible to wear. After trying on the new explorer exhibition models and also getting to borrow a friends 124270 I would suggest going with the explorer because it is a watch you will be more likely to wear everyday. The submariner has more of a presence and is iconic which is why I went with it initially. That "iconic presence" of the submarine draws you in but it doesn't add to the everyday wear-ability of the watch for my wrist. I think the explorer is easier to wear everyday. There is something simple about the explorer that I like, and with the mercedes hands it is easier to quickly tell the time compared to stick dials. The way the 3 6 and 9 numberals help divide up the dial allow my eyes to easier tell time. If you get an explorer I think it will please your Dad because you will have matching watches. You can always purchase yourself a submariner later
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Old 4 January 2022, 08:50 AM   #22
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My next watch will be the 36mm Explorer. But, I already own the Sub, so there's that. Buy the Sub first.
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Old 4 January 2022, 09:00 AM   #23
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Old 4 January 2022, 11:44 AM   #24
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Buy him one instead. smh
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Old 4 January 2022, 11:52 AM   #25
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Tell your dad you'll buy your own Sub. He will be proud of you.

Not being humble enough to accept a gift doesn’t seem too admirable to me.


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Old 4 January 2022, 12:14 PM   #26
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UH giving is always better than getting.

Sorry at 40 I would want to buy my non WIS father a watch. It's just part of the discussion in my mind. Personally I could never take a "Rolex" from my father as a grown man with a family etc. Raised different I guess. No right or wrong answer.

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Old 4 January 2022, 12:59 PM   #27
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Thanks for all the replies.

I think in terms of comfort the sub will suit me fine. I wear the pelagos regularly on bracelet and it’s dimensions are bigger. The pelagos is a bit lighter but I think I’ll manage.

We have thought about all getting explorers - he is getting one for my brother too. This isn’t a typical year or gift - far far from it, but we are both surprised, elated, and grateful. We will certainly be looking to get him something special some time soon.
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Old 4 January 2022, 01:14 PM   #28
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Thanks for all the replies.

I think in terms of comfort the sub will suit me fine. I wear the pelagos regularly on bracelet and it’s dimensions are bigger. The pelagos is a bit lighter but I think I’ll manage.

We have thought about all getting explorers - he is getting one for my brother too. This isn’t a typical year or gift - far far from it, but we are both surprised, elated, and grateful. We will certainly be looking to get him something special some time soon.
Sounds like your dad wants to get you guys all Exp’s. Would be cool and a nice family watch.
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Personally I could never take a "Rolex" from my father as a grown man with a family etc. Raised different I guess. No right or wrong answer.
I have to agree with you here. There are no right or wrong answers. But I would feel incredibly awkward if my father gifted me a rolex. For folk in my circle a Rolex purchased by a parent for their offspring doesn't garner the same respect as someone who has afforded their own. Now if you can afford to buy your folks a Rolex when they could never afford one you are a king of kings in my book.
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Old 5 January 2022, 09:54 AM   #30
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I have to agree with you here. There are no right or wrong answers. But I would feel incredibly awkward if my father gifted me a rolex. For folk in my circle a Rolex purchased by a parent for their offspring doesn't garner the same respect as someone who has afforded their own. Now if you can afford to buy your folks a Rolex when they could never afford one you are a king of kings in my book.
Different strokes. Disagree completely.

I think it’s an awesome gift to give. Also does away with any stigma when it’s a gift from a parent / spouse.
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