Day Day 40

[alan_poon88]

I have been given the opportunity to buy a Rose Gold Day Date 40 with white dial (228235) from an AD. I will to change it to the Olive dial, which is my grail combination.

While I don’t plan on selling this watch unless some financial disaster happens (thinking end of world from COVID ), I am interested on how people view service dials. Would the value be very different?

Should I just wait for the Olive dial and forgo this opportunity?

Thoughts?

[WatchesNBlondes]

I personally don’t know what experts on here think. In my mind as a collector, I wouldn’t switch dials and that to me is a cost and diminishes value. I may be completely wrong or right in my thinking.

[RolexSimon]

I would change it if you love the olive dial.

[arcampado]

Sorry to break it to you but RSC won’t swap it out to an olive dial

[JodyHighroller]

Uh, you might want to call the RSC and confirm. From what I’ve been told they stopped the DD40 olive dial swap. You can only swap for the same color dial if your original olive was damaged. It was a six month backorder for that dial a few weeks ago.

[alan_poon88]

Thanks for the heads up. I’ll check with them in the morning. Last I checked end of November, they were still doing it…. But things change quickly.


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[brandrea]

Originally Posted by alan_poon88

Thanks for the heads up. I’ll check with them in the morning. Last I checked end of November, they were still doing it…. But things change quickly.


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I think it will be a no go, but good luck

[hutch300]

I like the white. I would want a dial swap documented and significant discount if buying used. Also, if you were in a pinch you'd be hosed because most are and you'd not have a blue chip in my eyes. Follow your heart and not investment grade watches.

[amanbra]

My DJ dial change cost 850AUD... if it's the colour you want and they allow it i'd go ahead. Why not... as for resale, it's not going to be worse than the white dial right? In saying that i really don't concern myself much with resale.

[dauster]

highly doubt they will do that but Ill sell you mine for a cool 80k :) jk love that watch

[mjr2000]

I got mine swapped but they have recently stopped switching to green

[rolexpure]

They WILL switch it but not on your watch.

RSC has rules on when they will switch out dials now because everyone is wanting to swap theirs for the chocolate or the olive dials which both command considerably higher in the grey market.

What I heard is minimum ownership of 5 years or until first service.

[TimepieceRPP]

Originally Posted by rolexpure

They WILL switch it but not on your watch.

RSC has rules on when they will switch out dials now because everyone is wanting to swap theirs for the chocolate or the olive dials which both command considerably higher in the grey market.

What I heard is minimum ownership of 5 years or until first service.

Yes. Heard the same.

[bullies]

If they are willing to switch it get it documented. If not, please sell it to me. Love the RG with white and my local AD “says” they’ve not received one

[rolexpure]

Originally Posted by bullies

If they are willing to switch it get it documented. If not, please sell it to me. Love the RG with white and my local AD “says” they’ve not received one

Why?

If you sell the watch the reference number doesn't change. 228235 will be the reference no matter which dial it is.

Unless you have a card that explicit mentions the dial which none of the new cards would and only some of the old cards do.

I have had 3 DD40s in the past and none of the cards had any mention of the dials so if you did manage to switch it out and sold it - no one would know.

[bullies]

Originally Posted by rolexpure

Why?

If you sell the watch the reference number doesn't change. 228235 will be the reference no matter which dial it is.

Unless you have a card that explicit mentions the dial which none of the new cards would and only some of the old cards do.

I have had 3 DD40s in the past and none of the cards had any mention of the dials so if you did manage to switch it out and sold it - no one would know.

True. If the card doesn’t designate dial then I wouldn’t worry about it

I’d also probably want to be fully transparent if I did sell a “modified” piece. I would think Rolex would have record of which dial was on which serial

[rolexpure]

Originally Posted by bullies

True. If the card doesn’t designate dial then I wouldn’t worry about it

I’d also probably want to be fully transparent if I did sell a “modified” piece. I would think Rolex would have record of which dial was on which serial

Even if Rolex did they wont disclose it to you. Last time I called to check whether a serial on a DJ has a specific dial they said they dont keep that information.

Why would switching a dial be considered modified? Everything is still original. Its the same thing with service hands and dials or a change of crown and tube during service.

[bullies]

Originally Posted by rolexpure

Even if Rolex did they wont disclose it to you. Last time I called to check whether a serial on a DJ has a specific dial they said they dont keep that information.



Why would switching a dial be considered modified? Everything is still original. Its the same thing with service hands and dials or a change of crown and tube during service.

bc it isn't the same way it came from the factory. I get it. It's all still Rolex, but it's not the same way it was built originally. AKA modified. It's not complicated


Looks like some (older style?) cards show dial:

[Alex71168]

Originally Posted by rolexpure

Why?

If you sell the watch the reference number doesn't change. 228235 will be the reference no matter which dial it is.

Unless you have a card that explicit mentions the dial which none of the new cards would and only some of the old cards do.

I have had 3 DD40s in the past and none of the cards had any mention of the dials so if you did manage to switch it out and sold it - no one would know.

Doesn’t the white swing tag indicate the dial that is fitted, fairly sure mine does. It has a -00x after the reference?

[JodyHighroller]

In terms of potential value loss from a dial swap is hard to say. Depends on the secondary dealer or individual you’re dealing with. The current warranty cards don’t specify the entire reference number with hyphen or the dial color, so it’ll be difficult to discern for someone purchasing second hand. Only way would be if the white hang tag accompanied the watch. That’s why there is a flood of aftermarket aftermarket turquoise dials hitting the OP41s right now.

Originally Posted by bullies

bc it isn't the same way it came from the factory. I get it. It's all still Rolex, but it's not the same way it was built originally. AKA modified. It's not complicated


Looks like some (older style?) cards show dial:

Correct, the previous gen warranty card in some regions did specify the dial color.

Originally Posted by Alex71168

Doesn’t the white swing tag indicate the dial that is fitted, fairly sure mine does. It has a -00x after the reference?

Yes, the reference number on the white hang tag will specify the dial after the hyphen.

[Benzsiam]

Day-Date RG Olive dial is my # 1 choice and Chocolate is #2 but if I don't have a choice or have to wait long I would take any dial color because all of them look good to me.

[1William]

Let us know what they tell you on the dial swap.

[Twisted Vicar]

RSC in the UK have also stopped doing this. I enquired two months ago on swapping my 4yo chocolate motif dial over to the Olive. They said only like for like swaps are now permissible.

[Parapraxis]

swapping dials does affect value. don't do it.

[GoingPlaces]

RSC will not change to the hotter in-demand dials. They get that phone call every day.

[sond86]

I had mine swapped 2 months ago

Mine is older and the card says chocolate on it.

So it devalues it? How much? Is it Now it’s worth less than msrp?

Didn’t know that
Maybe I should have stuck with chocolate

[mannyv11]

Originally Posted by sond86

I had mine swapped 2 months ago

Mine is older and the card says chocolate on it.

So it devalues it? How much? Is it Now it’s worth less than msrp?

Didn’t know that
Maybe I should have stuck with chocolate

IMO it really should not reduce the overall value since it was done by Rolex at a Rolex service center.

as long as you have the paperwork from rolex you're good IMO

[watchwatcher]

If olive is what you really want, I'd hold out for that.

[shirtguy]

Might change it after the 5 yr warranty, or if they change it now you lose the warranty and need to pay the full-service

[alan_poon88]

Checked with RSC… swapping is still possible, but “not recommended” after recent purchase. Would be an option after 6 months. My concern is the policy changes again.


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