Current waiting time for a submariner no date ?

[Henry F.]

Hi there,

Anyone know about how long the current waiting time, at a ads list, for a submariner no date is ?

Thanks.

[Rolexman17]

Your question is impossible to answer as it depends on so many variables such as relationship, spend history and many other factors that would be specific to you.

The only real answer is immediately to never. That is truly the best answer you could get based on your question.

[Alex71168]

I waited for 2.5 years here in the UK and got mine in Dec 21 just before the price rise!

I had purchased a 2 Rolexes and 3 Tudor watches with the AD so had some spend history otherwise I don’t think I would have got one. I also visited them regularly to keep in touch so they hopefully when they came to allocate one I was there which seems to have worked.

Good luck though.

[Roadglide 2016]

Me, I have a relationship with my local AD. I've been waiting for either a no date or date for about two years. I have given up hope that I will ever get one.

The AD tells me the same story every six to eight months, "the professional models are extremely hard to get."

What pis__es me off is they have a big Rolex road side billboard with a Sub on it.

[Bigmozza]

I picked one up for my son at my AD 2 weeks before Christmas, it took a couple of months which I was more than happy with. Only other purchase was the new Bluesy, my SA got me both watches in just over a year, good luck my friend hope you get what you want.

[Alex71168]

Originally Posted by Bigmozza

I picked one up for my son at my AD 2 weeks before Christmas, it took a couple of months which I was more than happy with. Only other purchase was the new Bluesy, my SA got me both watches in just over a year, good luck my friend hope you get what you want.

Was this from a big AD or a smaller independent as you did well there without spend history?

[Bigmozza]

Originally Posted by Alex71168

Was this from a big AD or a smaller independent as you did well there without spend history?

It was from David M Robinson

[smokeytuna]

I have been waiting for 11 months

with the recent price increase it may be too expensive.

I was thinking about a Tudor gmt or new pelagos

[RolexSimon]

Originally Posted by smokeytuna

I have been waiting for 11 months

with the recent price increase it may be too expensive.

I was thinking about a Tudor gmt or new pelagos

Not really too expensive for what you're getting - just reduced profit on resale which shouldn't matter if it's a keeper. The sub is one of the most advanced diving / tool watches out there with incredible reliability and brand value. I have the Tudor GMT - beautiful everyday watch but not a sub by any stretch of the imagination. Pelagos also a completely different beast. Buy what you love and really want.

[brandrea]

It’s seems to vary from walking in and collecting one, to waiting years.

I guess you just have to try your luck

[afmars]

Yes, the wait is anywhere from zero to eternity. Good luck.

[Mendota]

I've been waiting for a 124060 since October 2020 with my AD. I told them it's to celebrate my upcoming 50th here in April 2022. In April 2021 they installed an EZLINK for me on my OP36 and at the same time I bought my wife the new OP34. When we picked it up my SA said very seriously that he would work on getting me my sub.

I've visited several times since then, chatted with other SAs, and those other SAs seemed to think that it wouldn't be a problem for me to get it in time for my upcoming birthday, but the time is just whizzing by with no call yet.

I'm going to start talking with both of the other ADs nearby in an effort to increase my odds.

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[rich-96db]

I got mine in early November 2021 after being put on the wait list in late February 2021. It was through an AD where I've bought a lot of other stuff.

[Alvar*]

18 months here and counting. I'm not expecting it happen in 2022

[Kyle3130]

I got mine 9 months after the release.

[Driver8]

Totally dependent on many many factors... one of which is also 'luck'.

As others have said, I've heard of walk-ins getting lucky, while others wait years. Unfortunately it's a case of how long is a piece of string.

[Seddyspaghetti]

Originally Posted by Henry F.

Hi there,

Anyone know about how long the current waiting time, at a ads list, for a submariner no date is ?

Thanks.

Indefinite without purchase history

[Kyle3130]

Originally Posted by Seddyspaghetti

Indefinite without purchase history

False

[johnwigan]

How long is a piece of string? The wait time seems to vary a lot. And different countries seem to be very different. In the USA you have to spend at least a trillion dollars on jewellery you don't want, and visit the AD three times a week to provide the sales assistants with foot massages and cookies. Elsewhere, you put your name down on the waiting list and wait.

Seriously, put your name down at your local ADs. You may get lucky, and it costs nothing. Also, watches may become more available in future so if you are on the waiting list you may get what you want. Someone from your country may be able to give you a better idea of possible waiting times. Not sure how relevant the experience in other countries is. Good luck.

[Cesarmsi]

There is not a one size fits all solution. It all depends on timing and luck, the best approach is to ask but maintain your expectations low.


I have 2 pretty solid AD’s where I live that have sourced me multiple pieces over the years. I was vacation visiting family at a large city and stopped at the Rolex AD like must of us do when we travel. I stared a conversation with the SA that I had never met, and told her that the next piece I wanted was the 41mm Turquiose OP, I knew it was a long shot. Low and behold, 2 months later she called me to tell me that she had it, if I wanted it was mine. Then after I received it, my wife loved the color so I called the SA back and told her that I wanted a 31mm for my wife, 4 months later we had the pair.


Set your expectations low and you wont be disappointed.

[fania123]

Get a 14060.

[OrwellianNightmare]

Goldsmiths refused to register my interest for a Sub because I need a Rolex purchase history first. They would, however, register my interest for the Explorer. This happened in May 21 and I got the call in Nov 21. I registered for the Sub and Sub Date on collection of the Explorer. No call yet!

[johnwigan]

Originally Posted by OrwellianNightmare

Goldsmiths refused to register my interest for a Sub because I need a Rolex purchase history first. They would, however, register my interest for the Explorer. This happened in May 21 and I got the call in Nov 21. I registered for the Sub and Sub Date on collection of the Explorer. No call yet!

WOS Group are terrible. I understand from the leaked sales matrix they will not sell you any Rolex unless you buy something non Rolex first. Then you would have to buy a non SS sport Rolex. Then they allow you to register an interest for a sub, not join a waiting list mind. They then sell the subs to their flipper mates. In three years time when the sub reference number changes they tell you you have to start from the beginning again because the watch you wanted is no longer available. Avoid WOS Group if you possible.

[OrwellianNightmare]

Originally Posted by johnwigan

WOS Group are terrible. I understand from the leaked sales matrix they will not sell you any Rolex unless you buy something non Rolex first. Then you would have to buy a non SS sport Rolex. Then they allow you to register an interest for a sub, not join a waiting list mind. They then sell the subs to their flipper mates. In three years time when the sub reference number changes they tell you you have to start from the beginning again because the watch you wanted is no longer available. Avoid WOS Group if you possible.

Do you have any personal experience with WOS or is this just what you've read? I searched TRF, WUS, and reddit in early 21 for advice on how to get the Rolexes I was after. I started by visiting two local, family-run ADs, after seeing similar negative sentiment about WOS. But, that ended in failure: they wouldn't register my interest for any Rolex. They'd only sell me existing inventory. I nearly gave up that point, so started looking at Omega again, and trying to decide if I could get over the tiny details that put me off the AT and SM300 originally. Then, one day, I was out shopping with my wife, stumbled past a Goldsmiths and thought screw it, I'll ask! By this point, I'd already written off the Sub/Sub Date, so I started by saying how much I love the new 36mm Explorer, blah blah history blah blah, can I be put on the list? They, to my surprise, said OK... so I tried my luck with the Sub/Sub Date. No dice. Now I have the Explorer and am – apparently! – on the Sub lists.

[Belinus]

Originally Posted by johnwigan

WOS Group are terrible. I understand from the leaked sales matrix they will not sell you any Rolex unless you buy something non Rolex first. Then you would have to buy a non SS sport Rolex. Then they allow you to register an interest for a sub, not join a waiting list mind. They then sell the subs to their flipper mates. In three years time when the sub reference number changes they tell you you have to start from the beginning again because the watch you wanted is no longer available. Avoid WOS Group if you possible.

I got my OP two years ago from WoS as a walk-in with no purchase history. I have since bought an Omega Seamaster from a different WoS store (one is a Rolex boutique and the other an Onega Boutique). I am now on a list for a Sub or a Sea Dweller. I originally wanted a Sub but the SA says I have a better chance of getting the SD. I like both but not sure if showing interest in the SD means I have no chance of the Sub. There has been no commitment to timescales but I do feel (maybe naively) that I have a chance within the next 6 months.

[johnwigan]

Originally Posted by Belinus

There has been no commitment to timescales but I do feel (maybe naively) that I have a chance within the next 6 months.

Yes, another aspect of the terrible customer service at WOS Group. The 'no timescale' nonsense.

What other retailer would have this as a general policy. If they said no we cannot get you this watch, or we can you get this watch within a year or two years, for example, customers could make a decision to wait, or shop elsewhere.

They dont do estimated timescales because they are happy to waste customer's time and string them along. No doubt to stop customers going elsewhere and to allow them to purchase other stuff, when they have no intention of selling them the watch they want. They have no respect for customers. Avoid if at all possible.

[Oxfordian]

Originally Posted by johnwigan

WOS Group are terrible. I understand from the leaked sales matrix they will not sell you any Rolex unless you buy something non Rolex first. Then you would have to buy a non SS sport Rolex. Then they allow you to register an interest for a sub, not join a waiting list mind. They then sell the subs to their flipper mates. In three years time when the sub reference number changes they tell you you have to start from the beginning again because the watch you wanted is no longer available. Avoid WOS Group if you possible.

No issues with the WoS group they have looked after me very very well, getting me the watches I have asked for.

I am aware that WoS group get a fair bit of grief from some but I have found them to be brilliant.

[terrywoods]

I’ve given up trying to get on the list, non ADs want my money

I did have previous spend history but my two ADs I rated have both closed, nobody new are interested and the sales assistants are the rude people I’ve ever met. Funny how you think Rolex is amazing yet the assistant treats you like you want to buy a pint of milk

[Snark]

I have no prior purchase history and first visited my AD in Scotland in December 2020. This was with my son and to register an interest in a SS Datejust 41 Wimbledon Dial for his 21st birthday in June 2021.
Prior to going to the store we had saved the images of the DJ 41, SS Sub No Date and OP 42 Black Dial as favourites on the Rolex website.
We thought that there was no chance of getting the Sub so didn't even ask for it. We did however show the SA the image and said that we would like to have the DJ 41. He must have noted all of the models whilst we were in the store.
In late May 2021 we got the call to go and collect the DJ 41 Wimbledon. Whilst in the store I asked the SA if I could expect the OP 41 any time soon (I had actually forgotten about the Sub by this time). The SA told us that he was still working on it and would call us when he had one.
By early October 2021 I had heard nothing more. I decided to send a polite email to the SA asking for any update. The email bounced back as undelivered. I then emailed the manager asking if the SA was still there.
The following day another SA called me to explain that my original SA had left and that she would now be taking over my account. She went over my details and the went over my notes of interest which were the Sub and OP 41. I confirmed this with her. By this time my wife had caught the Rolex bug and I asked her to note an interest in a OP 36 on bright blue dial on her behalf.
Within an hour she called me to offer a DJ 36 on the bright blue dial. I spoke to my wife but she wasn't interested in this watch. I called the SA to explain that we really appreciated the offer but rather than risk buyers remorse we would decline and wait for the watch we really wanted.
Three weeks later the SA calls again to offer me the SS Sun. Needless to say I accepted and picked up the Sub.
I don't have any idea if I was actually on the list for a year or if I was just in the right place at the right time when I sent my reminder email.
As an aside when collecting the Sub I asked the SA if she had any idea of a delivery date for the OP 36 bright blue dial. She told me that she had no idea but hadn't seen one come into the store in over three months.

[Oxfordian]

I had some history with the store and managed to pick up a 124060 within 3 weeks of launch in 2020.

But others I know have waited a fair bit longer.