What is a Mk1 126600 Sea Dweller? Educate me please

[paxjedi]

What is a Mark 1 Sea Dweller?
What is the difference between other marks of the same model?
Educate me please

[padi56]

No such think all this Mk stuff only exists in internet land, perhaps its the tiny crown font in-between the Swiss Made bottom dial indicating in most Rolex watches it has a 32 series movement. All this Mk stuff might indicate slight font or bezel colour changes, much like there have on most all Rolex models over the past 50 years

[paxjedi]

Originally Posted by padi56

No such think all this Mk stuff only exists in internet land, perhaps its the tiny crown font in-between the Swiss Made bottom dial indicating in most Rolex watches it has a 32 series movement. All this Mk stuff might indicate slight font or bezel colour changes, much like there have on most all Rolex models over the past 50 years

Yes I understand what Mk is all about - and the accompanying hype for pixel peepers. But I just want to know what is the specific difference between a MK1 and succeeding MKs for this Sea Dweller.

I am planning to get one and I like to understand everything about a Rolex model before I buy it. I don't really care whatever MK version I get, but I just want to know. Thanks.

[rambo99]

Originally Posted by paxjedi

Yes I understand what Mk is all about - and the accompanying hype for pixel peepers. But I just want to know what is the specific difference between a MK1 and succeeding MKs for this Sea Dweller.

I am planning to get one and I like to understand everything about a Rolex model before I buy it. I don't really care whatever MK version I get, but I just want to know. Thanks.

mk 1 dial is already discontinued so you wont get it from AD now. if you buy from grey, the mk 1 version will command a premium of around 10% over the mk 2 version.

[paxjedi]

Originally Posted by rambo99

mk 1 dial is already discontinued so you wont get it from AD now. if you buy from grey, the mk 1 version will command a premium of around 10% over the mk 2 version.

REALLY?
And why is that?
Because it was discontinued?
If the mvnt is the same and the dial differences are irrelevant (to me at least).
So why the premium?

I need to study this watch model much more before I purchase.

Thanks

[rambo99]

Originally Posted by paxjedi

REALLY?
And why is that?
Because it was discontinued?
If the mvnt is the same and the dial differences are irrelevant (to me at least).
So why the premium?

I need to study this watch model much more before I purchase.

Thanks

yes, because of the discontinuation, the grey market is always right.

[Devildog]

Originally Posted by paxjedi

REALLY?
And why is that?
Because it was discontinued?
If the mvnt is the same and the dial differences are irrelevant (to me at least).
So why the premium?

I need to study this watch model much more before I purchase.

Thanks

The premium is most likely because the MK1 dial was the dial used in the actual 50th anniversary year releases.

If on is really being pedantic a 2017 (anniversary year) 126600 (which will be a MK1 by default) should carry a higher premium than a 2018 "MK1" which will carry a higher premium than a "MK2"

To some people that's important. But then some people will pay $000's more for an old Daytona with a dial with a printing fault on it.

Watch collectors are a strange bunch

[Tools]

Originally Posted by paxjedi

Yes I understand what Mk is all about - and the accompanying hype for pixel peepers. But I just want to know what is the specific difference between a MK1 and succeeding MKs for this Sea Dweller.

I am planning to get one and I like to understand everything about a Rolex model before I buy it. I don't really care whatever MK version I get, but I just want to know. Thanks.

The point Peter was making is that there is no true rhyme or reason, and nobody owns the terms. They are made up.

In some cases a slight font change is called a "Mkxx", in other instances it is called an "APH" dial rather than a Mk, or it might be called an "error dial", when, in fact, no error is even involved. .. or a Long E dial, or even a "No Date" dial, when the watch does have a date; don't get me started on rail and track dials???

In truth, the crown dials shouldn't be called Mk anything, they should be called "Crown Dials", or "Transition Dials", another popular term.

There are no other characteristics about Mk-ing, like movements and such... that would be a whole other discussion.

[Manamana]

Originally Posted by Tools

The point Peter was making is that there is no true rhyme or reason, and nobody owns the terms. They are made up.

In some cases a slight font change is called a "Mkxx", in other instances it is called an "APH" dial rather than a Mk, or it might be called an "error dial", when, in fact, no error is even involved. .. or a Long E dial, or even a "No Date" dial, when the watch does have a date; don't get me started on rail and track dials???

In truth, the crown dials shouldn't be called Mk anything, they should be called "Crown Dials", or "Transition Dials", another popular term.

There are no other characteristics about Mk-ing, like movements and such... that would be a whole other discussion.

The dial differences on the SD43 Mk1 vs Mk2 are not insignificant

1. Lack of coronette at 6 o'clock on Mk1 although it has the new movement
already
2. I vs 1 ie I220m vs 1220m
3. (Superlative Chronometer) font is different between MkI vs MKII - one has
more weight / more substantial.

The new Mk2 dials came on the SD43 post bazel 2018 batch, Mk1 dial only one year run, so far we are in 2022, and no other variations on the Mk2 dial. Rolex could have just added the coronet to denote the new movement, but it changed the I to 1 which indicates it's a mistake on Mk1, and also changed font.

[rambo99]

mk 2 has a crown printed between the swiss made on the bottom of the dial while mk 1 do not. and mk 1 dial is only used for the first production year, then all SD43 are with the mk 2 dial.

[1665fan]

Mk1 is the old movement people…….

[brandrea]

Originally Posted by 1665fan

Mk1 is the old movement people…….

Nope it has the 3235

[alphadweller]

Originally Posted by 1665fan

Mk1 is the old movement people…….

Good joke.

For those who don't know, the mk1 has the 3235 caliber, in fact it's the first professional model to have it.

[paxjedi]

Originally Posted by alphadweller

Good joke.

For those who don't know, the mk1 has the 3235 caliber, in fact it's the first professional model to have it.

If the mk1 has the 3235, then what does the mk2 have?
Shouldn't the later mks have better / improved movements?

[joli160]

Originally Posted by paxjedi

If the mk1 has the 3235, then what does the mk2 have?
Shouldn't the later mks have better / improved movements?

Same movement.

[padi56]

Originally Posted by paxjedi

If the mk1 has the 3235, then what does the mk2 have?
Shouldn't the later mks have better / improved movements?

Same movement but has tiny minuscule font dial changes on the so called Mk11 nothing more, and seeing dials are made in 3 different factories now all owned by Rolex .There always have been and always will be tiny variations over production years on most all Rolex watches..

[Chadridv]

Originally Posted by padi56

Same movement but has tiny minuscule font dial changes on the so called Mk11 nothing more, and seeing dials are made in 3 different factories now all owned by Rolex .There always have been and always will be tiny variations over production years on most all Rolex watches..

But in this case there are only two that can easily be differentiated and identified by even the most obtuse eye. Despite your best efforts to act like you don’t know what anyone is referring to with these “so called” different dials, you knew exactly what the differences were and clearly identified them.

You’re absolutely right There could be dozens or even hundreds of variations when it comes to slight dial differences, but in the case of this dial there are absolutely 2 specific variations that correspond with different time periods of production.

[paxjedi]

Okay, I see the crown change now. Interesting!

Now what is the MK1 movement and what is the movement on the MK2?
For the Explorer, which I have, I know the 3185 movement was changed to 3186. So I am curious as to the MK1 to MK2 movement for the Sea Dweller.

[rambo99]

Originally Posted by 1665fan

Mk1 is the old movement people…….

no, movement are the same.

[Devildog]

Originally Posted by 1665fan

Mk1 is the old movement people…….

Not in the 126600. Its had the new movement since introduction.

The DJ41 was also introduced with the new movement and no crown at the bottom of the dial.

[Dirt]

Originally Posted by 1665fan

Mk1 is the old movement people…….

It's the same movement.
The 50th Sea-Dweller has always had the 32xx movement from its introduction.

[alphadweller]

The two main differences between mk1 and mk2:

- font in number one: l,220 (sans serif) vs 1,220 (serif)
- mk2 has the coronet between Swiss and Made, mk1 doesn't

Also, the font of Oyster Perpetual seems bolder in the mk1.

[paxjedi]

Thank you everybody for the quick education.
I think I understand a little bit more now.

[GrantD]

The main difference is that you can get the SD43 with mk2 dial at list if you’re lucky the mk1 dial is only secong hand now so will be a couple of grand more.

[alphadweller]

DavidSW charges $3,300 more for the mk1.

https://davidsw.com/shop/watch/rolex...ler-mark-i-45/

https://davidsw.com/shop/watch/rolex...eadweller-125/

[paxjedi]

Originally Posted by alphadweller

DavidSW charges $3,300 more for the mk1.

https://davidsw.com/shop/watch/rolex...ler-mark-i-45/

https://davidsw.com/shop/watch/rolex...eadweller-125/

Wow!
Just wow!

[jets]

I’ve got a dated may 1st 2017 MK1. One of the first delivered. Maybe worth $26 more


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[koronet-kid]

It’s he one just before the MK2 here to help

[Brny11]

6 inch wrist. Move on from SD lineup. Go SubC. Of course all my opinion but the watch is noticeable on the wrist. Many claim to love it (true or not is up to them), but many also sold it due to size and comfort.

[paxjedi]

Originally Posted by Brny11

6 inch wrist. Move on from SD lineup. Go SubC. Of course all my opinion but the watch is noticeable on the wrist. Many claim to love it (true or not is up to them), but many also sold it due to size and comfort.

My wrist is not 6", and much closer to 6.5". My initial post about my wrist size was to make a point. Heck on years that I get fat, my wrist gets really big.

Either way, it doesn't really matter to me if the watch looks "big" on my wrist. I have a Sub, and two Explorer II (a 41mm and 42mm) and I couldn't tell the bloody difference.

I just want the 50th Anni SD because I turned 50 the same year.