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Old 17 March 2022, 04:37 AM   #1
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Feedback on condition?

Hi folks - I'm looking at purchasing a 116520. The dealer sent me this photo. As usual it's hard to tell the true quality however it is a reputable dealer.

Those that have more experience assessing pics and what to look for, what do you think initially of this condition?

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Old 17 March 2022, 04:41 AM   #2
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That's it, one picture? LOL Not much to go on.

It looks used, but not beat up. I sold one of those years ago, and it's probably worth twice that now.

But I could never read the time on it, so I don't really regret it from that perspective. OTOH, it wears great, is a timeless classic, and looks nice.

Keep in mind that a service on a Daytona can run around a thousand bucks, last I heard.
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Old 17 March 2022, 04:47 AM   #3
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i posted this a couple weeks ago, feel free to compare to mine! I am not great at determining whether or not they have been polished, but based off that single picture it looks like it has.
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Old 17 March 2022, 04:52 AM   #4
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Thank you both! And yes, that's the only picture they sent me aside from the advertisement photos. I've attached the ad pictures here:
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Old 17 March 2022, 02:05 PM   #5
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Thank you both! And yes, that's the only picture they sent me aside from the advertisement photos. I've attached the ad pictures here:

I don't think this is the same watch as you first posted. This one is way better. I see someone else has pointed this out. A crispy 520 is pretty hard to find. I went through this the past couple months.
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Old 17 March 2022, 04:56 AM   #6
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If condition is important to you then whatsapp and see it that way or lots more photos. Do they have a no questions asked refund policy with 100% refund?
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Old 17 March 2022, 05:03 AM   #7
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If condition is important to you then whatsapp and see it that way or lots more photos. Do they have a no questions asked refund policy with 100% refund?
Condition is definitely important to me however there was hesitation when I asked for additional pictures. They didn't really want to but they did it since I told them I was nervous about purchasing (this is my first online watch purchase).

They do have a refund policy, I believe 3 - 5 days or so.
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Old 17 March 2022, 10:02 AM   #8
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Condition is definitely important to me however there was hesitation when I asked for additional pictures. They didn't really want to but they did it since I told them I was nervous about purchasing (this is my first online watch purchase).

They do have a refund policy, I believe 3 - 5 days or so.
If a seller is not willing to provide you as many clear photos as you need of the watch before you spend many thousands of dollars then they really should not be taken seriously as a place to buy the watch. PERIOD
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Old 17 March 2022, 10:14 AM   #9
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If a seller is not willing to provide you as many clear photos as you need of the watch before you spend many thousands of dollars then they really should not be taken seriously as a place to buy the watch. PERIOD
Yes, you’re right. You’ve all convinced me to forgo this piece and hold on until I find something better. Unfortunately I’m betting the price will continue to rise though …
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Old 17 March 2022, 01:01 PM   #10
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If a seller is not willing to provide you as many clear photos as you need of the watch before you spend many thousands of dollars then they really should not be taken seriously as a place to buy the watch. PERIOD

Right??

Buyer: send me pics please.
Seller: No.
Buyer: ok I’ll buy it.


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Old 17 March 2022, 01:07 PM   #11
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This is my opinion only. The deal is problematic with the ad pictures and the actual photograph sent to you not matching. The main thing in my view is that the watch is not worth the asking price. You will lose nothing by not buying this particular watch. The economy is crashing all around us. Do you really think that these insanely inflated prices will last, given crises that are ongoing as we speak?

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Well said and I agree that it’s a hard pill to swallow. The thing that perplexes me is that these prices seem to continue to rise despite the economy around us. Gives me a bit of fomo that I’ll never get my hands on one, if I’m being honest.

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LOL alright alright, I get the point already! 🤣
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Old 17 March 2022, 05:16 AM   #12
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That’s a fake, it’s supposed to have a ceramic bezel.
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Old 17 March 2022, 07:39 AM   #13
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That’s a fake, it’s supposed to have a ceramic bezel.

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Old 17 March 2022, 11:29 AM   #14
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That’s a fake, it’s supposed to have a ceramic bezel.
Are you serious?
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Old 17 March 2022, 05:17 AM   #15
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If the bezel text isn’t faded it’s a good sign.
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Old 17 March 2022, 05:32 AM   #16
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Hard to tell whether or not it has been over polished. However, a red flag in my opinion if they are hesitant to send you more pictures. From experience dealing with CRM Jewelers, Luxury Baazar, and Takuya (Trusted Dealer) they have always provided even videos to re-assure me of the condition.

Like many people here will say, BUY THE SELLER - NOT THE WATCH.
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Old 17 March 2022, 05:57 AM   #17
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Hard to tell whether or not it has been over polished. However, a red flag in my opinion if they are hesitant to send you more pictures. From experience dealing with CRM Jewelers, Luxury Baazar, and Takuya (Trusted Dealer) they have always provided even videos to re-assure me of the condition.

Like many people here will say, BUY THE SELLER - NOT THE WATCH.
Yes, totally, it's a fair point for sure. The dealer is Capetown who I believe is not so bad from what I've heard.
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Old 17 March 2022, 06:25 AM   #18
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Yes, totally, it's a fair point for sure. The dealer is Capetown who I believe is not so bad from what I've heard.

You’re gonna buy from a seller that “is not so bad”? Good luck brotus!


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Old 17 March 2022, 06:20 AM   #19
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Holy polish batman!

Looks like the polisher started with a 50 grit stone and rounded out all the chamfers.


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Old 17 March 2022, 06:20 AM   #20
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Holy polish batman!

Looks like the polisher started with a 50 grit stone and rounded out all the chamfers.


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Wow ... forgive me for asking but what is a chamfer exactly ?
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Old 17 March 2022, 06:24 AM   #21
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Wow ... forgive me for asking but what is a chamfer exactly ?
Here you go sir.

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Holy polish batman!

Looks like the polisher started with a 50 grit stone and rounded out all the chamfers.


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I can you show you the sharp chamfers on my unpolished 116520 for comparison.
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Another one...


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Old 17 March 2022, 06:35 AM   #24
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Ah yes, makes sense now. That edge does appear a bit rounded out.
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Old 17 March 2022, 06:49 AM   #25
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Let me get this clear:

You are based in California and intend to buy a used Daytona watch at an obviously inflated gray market price from a dealer you have never dealt with before based in Capetown, South Africa? Is that correct?

If all of the above is correct, then I would be very worried about this as there are TOO MANY variables in this equation that might cause you to lose a great deal of money. But please provide more details of this watch, dealer, and transaction before we give you any more advice.


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Old 17 March 2022, 07:08 AM   #26
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Let me get this clear:

You are based in California and intend to buy a used Daytona watch at an obviously inflated gray market price from a dealer you have never dealt with before based in Capetown, South Africa? Is that correct?

If all of the above is correct, then I would be very worried about this as there are TOO MANY variables in this equation that might cause you to lose a great deal of money. But please provide more details of this watch, dealer, and transaction before we give you any more advice.


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Not based in South Africa! They are in Atlanta, GA

And yes pricing is high ($28k) but where else am I to get this watch a cheaper price?
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Old 17 March 2022, 10:33 AM   #27
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Not based in South Africa! They are in Atlanta, GA

And yes pricing is high ($28k) but where else am I to get this watch a cheaper price?

If you mean Capetown Diamond Corp in Roswell, Georgia?
If yes, call them and look for Errol Guggenheim.
That store is legit and one of the larger grey dealers in Georgia.
You can try to negotiate the price and tell them it is too polished.
That watch looks different on their website than on the photo you posted.

Good luck.

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Old 17 March 2022, 10:44 AM   #28
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If you mean Capetown Diamond Corp in Roswell, Georgia?
If yes, call them and look for Errol Guggenheim.
That store is legit and one of the larger grey dealers in Georgia.
You can try to negotiate the price and tell them it is too polished.
That watch looks different on their website than on the photo you posted.

Good luck.

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Yes, that's the one. And yes, I've been speaking w/ Errol. Very nice gentleman but was reluctant to send me any photos and finally gave in and sent me just that one. And I agree, it looks different from the ones on the website. I suppose it's worth trying to negotiate but not sure it will go too far ..
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I'd want one in better condition.
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