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Old 19 May 2022, 10:36 AM   #1
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Does every collection need an Explorer 1?

I've seen a lot of posts about how every collection needs a sub or speedmaster. And obviously it's not true, as collections need whatever people like at whatever level they can afford. But just following that idea, in your opinion, where would the Explorer 1 sit in the hierarchy of "every collection needs one" watches?
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Old 19 May 2022, 10:43 AM   #2
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Yes!! An Explorer is a must....

Of course that is just my humble opinion. I've owned 14270 and 114270 previously. Currently own 124270 and 214270. Should every collection have an Explorer? That depends on the person's taste. Submariner, GMT, Daytona, Speedmaster, Seamaster does nothing for me. But that 3,6,9 dial is the best in my world. To each is his own.
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Old 19 May 2022, 10:44 AM   #3
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Here’s my Rolex top 7 list

1. Explorer 36MM - own
2. Rolex Date 34MM - past owner
3. Cellini - past owner
4. Submariner 5 digit - past owner
5. Yacht Master - goal
6. GMT - goal
7. DJ - TT - past owner
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Old 21 May 2022, 10:25 PM   #4
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Here’s my Rolex top 7 list

1. Explorer 36MM - own
2. Rolex Date 34MM - past owner
3. Cellini - past owner
4. Submariner 5 digit - past owner
5. Yacht Master - goal
6. GMT - goal
7. DJ - TT - past owner
Wow. Safe to say that’s not a list you’d find elsewhere. Fair play though!
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Old 19 May 2022, 10:46 AM   #5
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I might get heat for this. But I personally don't think the quality of the speedmaster is enough for the price. I recently went to my AD and tried on the new reference. The pressing the pushers felt terrible. Also winding the watch was very uncomfortable. Love the story of the watch but you are better off with Rolex if you can get one. Nothing get better than the Explorer. Most low key Rolex available.
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Old 20 May 2022, 01:51 AM   #6
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I might get heat for this. But I personally don't think the quality of the speedmaster is enough for the price. I recently went to my AD and tried on the new reference. The pressing the pushers felt terrible. Also winding the watch was very uncomfortable. Love the story of the watch but you are better off with Rolex if you can get one. Nothing get better than the Explorer. Most low key Rolex available.
You’re not wrong. Build quality of Omega is not that of Rolex by a long shot.
And I just bought a Speedy Professional on Monday.
I do love I tho, but 6k is a lot for it.

But realistically, the ONLY Omega out there to not absolutely tank in value from new MSRP purchase is a Speedmaster Professional Moonwatch, full box & papers.

That said I chunked 6k on it because I was watch shopping and actually wanted to buy a watch that day, and it was on my list. I’d have much rather bought a BLNR from the Rolex AD, but that’s not happening anytime soon (but I’ve asked to be put in the list).
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Old 22 May 2022, 07:44 AM   #7
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I might get heat for this. But I personally don't think the quality of the speedmaster is enough for the price. I recently went to my AD and tried on the new reference. The pressing the pushers felt terrible. Also winding the watch was very uncomfortable. Love the story of the watch but you are better off with Rolex if you can get one. Nothing get better than the Explorer. Most low key Rolex available.
The speedmaster does not feel the most premium but the new seamasters and some other pieces do feel quite good, I'd argue not much daylight in material feel from Rolex, it's just the proportions of the latter that are second to none (IMO)
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Old 19 May 2022, 10:50 AM   #8
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My one watch collection has one. Haha
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Old 19 May 2022, 10:51 AM   #9
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Explorer 1 wouldn’t sit anywhere close to a respectable watch collection. That watch has nothing to offer.
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Old 21 May 2022, 12:00 PM   #10
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Explorer 1 wouldn’t sit anywhere close to a respectable watch collection. That watch has nothing to offer.
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Old 22 May 2022, 01:00 AM   #11
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Explorer 1 wouldn’t sit anywhere close to a respectable watch collection. That watch has nothing to offer.
What a useful contribution…
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Old 19 May 2022, 10:53 AM   #12
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I’m guilty of currently owning the 39mm mk I and mk II so I’d say yes,
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Old 19 May 2022, 11:08 AM   #13
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Nope, don't care for one.
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Old 19 May 2022, 11:10 AM   #14
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No.......every collection needs at least one of Submariner/GMT-Master/Daytona, and one of Datejust/Day-Date
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Old 24 May 2022, 02:14 AM   #15
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No.......every collection needs at least one of Submariner/GMT-Master/Daytona, and one of Datejust/Day-Date
I let my Explorer 214270 MkI go to get to this point: GMT,Daytona,DD,Sub

Yet, I love the Explorer. It had bad blood from an x-gf. I held it for 7 years, but in the end I'm ok letting it go.
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Old 19 May 2022, 11:16 AM   #16
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I think it’s a great reference
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Old 19 May 2022, 11:45 AM   #17
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I like them….I have a 114270 & a 214270. If I wasn’t a watch addict, those 2 would be it. All I need.


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Old 19 May 2022, 11:51 AM   #18
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No such thing as a necessary watch.
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Old 19 May 2022, 11:54 AM   #19
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I find mine gets more wrist time than all the others combined. Just so comfortable and versatile.
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Old 19 May 2022, 12:07 PM   #20
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I love the Explorer on its own. I've had one, but I ended up selling it because I felt it overlapped with my Sub.

All of my watches have a different dial texture and/or color.

Everyone is different.
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Old 19 May 2022, 12:08 PM   #21
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Personally don’t care for the explorer 1.
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Old 19 May 2022, 12:41 PM   #22
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Does every collection need an Explorer 1?

Well, I think it depends on the nature of one’s collection. Some collections are a random accumulation of various makes and models, while some are very focused—maybe focusing on a specific brand, even a specific model—or type.

For example, someone might have every variation of Submariner. Or, an array of dive watches. Or, might choose watches according to a theme, or related themes, like the “land, sea, air” posts we see.

If the Explorer is relevant to a particular collection’s theme or focus, it’s a natural choice. One might even collect nothing but Explorers, given the variations over the years.

For example, if “exploration” is a theme of a collection, the Explorer is an obvious choice, along with watches with a link to exploration, such as the Omega Speedmaster Professional, the Explorer II and the Submariner, or Sea-Dweller, or Deepsea.

Now, if your collection—or accumulation—of watches is of a different nature—say you’re into chronographs—then it’s not a “must have”.

However, if you’re into Rolex watches, and want a fair representation of its iconic models, then an Explorer belongs on your list, unless you just don’t like it.

And, if you’re not really a collector, just enjoy owning a few nice watches, the Explorer is a great option if you like its simplicity and its versatility.

I particularly like that it has some of the traits of the professional models, such as a secure clasp on the bracelet, and the triangle marker at 12 o’clock, yet is an understated general purpose watch, like the OP or the DJs on oyster bracelets with dome bezels.

And, I like that “3-6-9” dial, which can also be found on older OPs.

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Well, I think it depends on the nature of one’s collection. Some collections are a random accumulation of various makes and models, while some are very focused—maybe focusing on a specific brand, even a specific model—or type.

For example, someone might have every variation of Submariner. Or, an array of dive watches. Or, might choose watches according to a theme, or related themes, like the “land, sea, air” posts we see.

If the Explorer is relevant to a particular collection’s theme or focus, it’s a natural choice. One might even collect nothing but Explorers, given the variations over the years.

For example, if “exploration” is a theme of a collection, the Explorer is an obvious choice, along with watches with a link to exploration, such as the Omega Speedmaster Professional, the Explorer II and the Submariner, or Sea-Dweller, or Deepsea.

Now, if your collection—or accumulation—of watches is of a different nature—say you’re into chronographs—then it’s not a “must have”.

However, if you’re into Rolex watches, and want a fair representation of its iconic models, then an Explorer belongs on your list, unless you just don’t like it.

And, if you’re not really a collector, just enjoy owning a few nice watches, the Explorer is a great option if you like its simplicity and its versatility.

I particularly like that it has some of the traits of the professional models, such as a secure clasp on the bracelet, and the triangle marker at 12 o’clock, yet is an understated general purpose watch, like the OP or the DJs on oyster bracelets with dome bezels.

And, I like that “3-6-9” dial, which can also be found on older OPs.

This post has elevated the status of the Explorer 1
Can you share other watches in your collection?
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Old 19 May 2022, 04:49 PM   #24
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Can you share other watches in your collection?
Thanks! I have managed to accumulate a range of watches over the years, beginning wtth Omega, then Breitling, then Rolex. And, one Tudor, the black bay 58, blue dial.

I'm not one of those highly organized collectors who only has, say, Omega Speedmasters from the 1960s.

But, I tend to have, within the accumulated pieces, some watches that run to a theme...for example, along with my dad's 1970s era Speedmaster Professional, a Breitlng Cosmonaute based on the watch Breitling configured for Mercury astronaut Scott Carpenter. And, I've got the "First Omega in Space" version of the Speedmaster, worn by Mercury astronaut Walter Schirra, before NASA officially selected the successor to this watch, the Speedmaster Professional. So, those three kind of run to a space exploration theme. The Breitling is interesting because it's a Navitimer, but with a 24 hour dial. Takes some getting used to, but practical if one is traveling in Europe...or outer space.

And, another sub-group of my collection/accumulation are “Bond watches"...I’m a fan, naturally. So, starting in 1997, I started to slowly acquire some 007 gear: the Omega Seamaster Professional, blue wave dial, the mechanical reference from the Brosnan films after "Goldeneye" (the one in “Goldeneye” was quartz); the Seamaster 300 developed for "Spectre", a limited edition; and the most recent Seamaster from "No Time to Die"; as well as an Aqua Terra from "Skyfall". I've got a Submariner Date, 16610, which I think is the same reference as the Rolex worn by Timothy Dalton in "License to Kill". Last in this cluster is a 14060M, which is as close as I can get to Roger Moore’s Submariner 5513 from “Live and Let Die”, the watch that, along with my dad’s Speedmaster, really hooked me on fine watches as a boy.

A few years ago, I visited the Omega boutique and during a conversation with the manager, asked about a watch I'd read about...a reproduction of the Omega JFK wore during his inauguration. The manager smiled, disappeared in the back for a moment, then emerged with this reproduction. A small quantity were produced...a manual wind, tank watch, gold case, very slim. I bought that, because I admire the late president and was impressed with this recreation of that historic timepiece, which is now in Omega's collection. It was a gift to the president from a friend and Mrs. Kennedy told the friend he liked it because it was slim and light, unlike chunkier watches she'd given him.

I don't wear it that often, but it's a wonderful example of a classic "dress watch", on a black leather strap. It's the only "full gold" watch I own!

I have one other tank watch, also an Omega. This one is not "full gold", just plated, but it's vintage...probably 1960s, and it's very special because it was a wedding present. It belonged to my wife's father, who died when she was a teenager, long before I met her. Her mom gave me that watch. I am having Omega restore it...it's in Switzerland now, and I look forward to wearing it more often. The boutique will fix me up with a proper Omega strap, to replace the aftermarket strap I put on it (the bracelet didn't fit, and I didn't want to tamper with it). I've worn it only a couple of times. One time was very special. My wife's sister asked me to give her away on her wedding day. Since I was a stand-in for her dad, I wore his watch, on its original bracelet, loose though it was. That morning, I took the bride aside and showed her that watch, to let her know that I was wearing something her father, who died when she was only 8, would have worn every day. She was quite moved and I think that meant a lot to her.

Though this watch was a gift to me, a very thoughtful, generous gift, I consider myself merely its caretaker. One day it will go to my daughter, or, if she's not interested, to one of her cousins. Out of the three girls, hopefully one will appreciate a restored watch from the 1960s worn by their grandfather.

Watches! They can mean so much more than mere timepieces...
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Well, I think it depends on the nature of one’s collection. Some collections are a random accumulation of various makes and models, while some are very focused—maybe focusing on a specific brand, even a specific model—or type.

For example, someone might have every variation of Submariner. Or, an array of dive watches. Or, might choose watches according to a theme, or related themes, like the “land, sea, air” posts we see.

If the Explorer is relevant to a particular collection’s theme or focus, it’s a natural choice. One might even collect nothing but Explorers, given the variations over the years.

For example, if “exploration” is a theme of a collection, the Explorer is an obvious choice, along with watches with a link to exploration, such as the Omega Speedmaster Professional, the Explorer II and the Submariner, or Sea-Dweller, or Deepsea.

Now, if your collection—or accumulation—of watches is of a different nature—say you’re into chronographs—then it’s not a “must have”.

However, if you’re into Rolex watches, and want a fair representation of its iconic models, then an Explorer belongs on your list, unless you just don’t like it.

And, if you’re not really a collector, just enjoy owning a few nice watches, the Explorer is a great option if you like its simplicity and its versatility.

I particularly like that it has some of the traits of the professional models, such as a secure clasp on the bracelet, and the triangle marker at 12 o’clock, yet is an understated general purpose watch, like the OP or the DJs on oyster bracelets with dome bezels.

And, I like that “3-6-9” dial, which can also be found on older OPs.

I could not agree more Lew. Very well said.
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Well, I think it depends on the nature of one’s collection. Some collections are a random accumulation of various makes and models, while some are very focused—maybe focusing on a specific brand, even a specific model—or type.

For example, someone might have every variation of Submariner. Or, an array of dive watches. Or, might choose watches according to a theme, or related themes, like the “land, sea, air” posts we see.

If the Explorer is relevant to a particular collection’s theme or focus, it’s a natural choice. One might even collect nothing but Explorers, given the variations over the years.

For example, if “exploration” is a theme of a collection, the Explorer is an obvious choice, along with watches with a link to exploration, such as the Omega Speedmaster Professional, the Explorer II and the Submariner, or Sea-Dweller, or Deepsea.

Now, if your collection—or accumulation—of watches is of a different nature—say you’re into chronographs—then it’s not a “must have”.

However, if you’re into Rolex watches, and want a fair representation of its iconic models, then an Explorer belongs on your list, unless you just don’t like it.

And, if you’re not really a collector, just enjoy owning a few nice watches, the Explorer is a great option if you like its simplicity and its versatility.

I particularly like that it has some of the traits of the professional models, such as a secure clasp on the bracelet, and the triangle marker at 12 o’clock, yet is an understated general purpose watch, like the OP or the DJs on oyster bracelets with dome bezels.

And, I like that “3-6-9” dial, which can also be found on older OPs.

Great post!!
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Subjective… but I think an explorer 1 should be owned by collectors that appreciate the classics.
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out of my 5 steel sports including 2 submariners, a gmt and daytona. The explorer is my most worn by far.
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out of my 5 steel sports including 2 submariners, a gmt and daytona. The explorer is my most worn by far.
Why why why?
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