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david7979 · 2 July 2009, 09:04 AM

which one would you prefer?

How much of price difference in these models?

is it worth it to pay more for 275?

Bebot · 2 July 2009, 09:11 AM

I think this topic has been beaten to death.
Anyhow, if I remember correctly, most people here pick 233. At least those that are own or a fan of Panerai.

brainbizz · 2 July 2009, 10:19 AM

It is my understanding that there have been issues with the movement of the 275. 233 tough to beat

drtooth73 · 2 July 2009, 10:34 AM

I tried on 270 and 233 yesterday. The 270 looks more impressive

Trurolexer · 2 July 2009, 03:25 PM

233

rotan · 2 July 2009, 04:24 PM

233 definitely...

Zed · 2 July 2009, 09:27 PM

233 all the way....

drtooth73 · 2 July 2009, 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rotan

233 definitely...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zed

233 all the way....

have you guys compared 233 and 270 side by side, on a table right in front of you? and tried them both on?
I felt that 270 beats the 233 in looks. Its a lower production number as well.

Zed · 2 July 2009, 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drtooth73

have you guys compared 233 and 270 side by side, on a table right in front of you? and tried them both on?
I felt that 270 beats the 233 in looks. Its a lower production number as well.

Yes I did...
the dial on the 233 is a lot cleaner. the 6 and 12 are larger on the 233 while the addition of the 9 on the 270 makes it too busy..
there is also the am/pm indicator on 270 vs the dot on the 233... this all contributes to the cleaner simpler look of the 233 which is very much inline with the Panerai characteristics...

the thickness too... 270 is thicker while the 233 is a pleasure on the wrist it sits so comfortably..

all in all i feel the 233 is a lot more balanced and in keeping with the Panerai spirit...

brainbizz · 2 July 2009, 10:40 PM

What is the deal post reads 275 monopulsante not 270.

argee1977 · 3 July 2009, 12:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drtooth73

have you guys compared 233 and 270 side by side, on a table right in front of you? and tried them both on?
I felt that 270 beats the 233 in looks. Its a lower production number as well.

Yeah, i've compared both, and without a doubt the 233 is the better one for me, everything just seems to work better, the main points for me were:

Sub-Dial on 233 is a better size and fit for the dial, 270 is a little smaller to accomodate the 9 and of course has the AM/PM and second hand on the sub-dial which clutter it up.

The power reserve, on the 233 it is marked out in day stages (a marker for each day), easy to work out, on the 270 the markers seem to point for 2.5 days use, it's a small thing but to me badly worked out.

On the 233 there is no '9' on the dial, because there isn't enough room, so the '9' is sacrificed to give the dial a better look and feel, on the 270 it's crammed in there and the 6 and 12 are reduced in size because of this, another thing that just makes me think the design could have been better.

That for me puts the 270 behind the 233, add to that the extra thickness on an already chunky watch and i just couldn't buy the 270, opting for the 233 at the time, and both were available for the same price, so that never even came into it.

The one thing about the 270 that is good is it's an automatic, but again it's let down by the back view, the rotor doesn't make the movement look good at all, they seem to have kept the plates on from the P2002/1 and if a rotor is added i think they should remove these and allow the full movement to be shown.

116520 · 3 July 2009, 02:16 AM

I did.

233 is better...

Quote:

Originally Posted by drtooth73

have you guys compared 233 and 270 side by side, on a table right in front of you? and tried them both on?
I felt that 270 beats the 233 in looks. Its a lower production number as well.

rotan · 2 July 2009, 09:57 PM

Yes I have... 233 is nicer... 270 IMO is too cluttered... Like squeezing a lot of things into the dial...

hflee55 · 3 July 2009, 01:42 AM

233...without a doubt.

david7979 · 3 July 2009, 03:05 AM

I was comparing to 275 not 270. 275 is same 8 days but chrono.

rotan · 3 July 2009, 03:10 AM

Yup but 233 is still better...

drtooth73 · 3 July 2009, 03:34 AM

Well, up close on the photos, I agree, the dial is less cluttered.
But on the wrist I felt 270 had better presence.

David7979: sorry I kinda hijacked the thread

VazLube · 3 July 2009, 04:27 AM

I also did compare 233 and 270 side by side, and no doubt, 233 is winner in my book. 233 has bigger 12 and 6 while 270 is smaller with 9 squeezed in, is bit wee unbalanced for lack of corresponding 3 marker. (312 looks fine to me although). 270 is bit thicker than 233.

Now for 275, I don't think it's comparable to 233 because of feature being chrono function and matte hands (?). If I had spare change I would get 311 (Ti) or 317 (Ceramic) !

brainbizz · 3 July 2009, 04:49 AM

I would argue it is comparable but once I heard of the potential movement problems I passed. 233 to 270 has been beat and beat and beat. I own both use the search key to find the multiple threads if interested.

VazLube · 3 July 2009, 04:54 AM

Brian, what kind of issues of that movement in 275 you've heard?

brainbizz · 3 July 2009, 05:43 AM

There was a problem with the chrono function and several people returned their watches. I was looking to buy the gold with blue face but purchased 289 instead. New technology and new movements are great but one must be suspicious. I am a fan of the 8 day movement and even have a 268 but am staying away from 275. The 317 would be a different story just because.

Nica64 · 3 July 2009, 06:19 AM

233 for me!

VazLube · 4 July 2009, 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brainbizz

There was a problem with the chrono function and several people returned their watches. I was looking to buy the gold with blue face but purchased 289 instead. New technology and new movements are great but one must be suspicious. I am a fan of the 8 day movement and even have a 268 but am staying away from 275. The 317 would be a different story just because.

Yeah, I am not going to be first adopter thing. Let others be beta testers! 317 is a helluva of a watch with helluva price to match!

david7979 · 3 July 2009, 06:31 AM

what about 312??? what do you guys think about the new 312? I can't decide which one to buy. I have narrow down to 233 or 312.... I am leaning towards 233 but there is about 6k price difference...

david7979 · 3 July 2009, 06:37 AM

how does everyone feel about 312? do you think it will hold the value?

drtooth73 · 3 July 2009, 07:04 AM

312: who knows whether it will keep value in this economy?

My current philosophy about luxury watches: buy what you really like, preferably with a nice discount if you worry about resale.
Dont buy what someone else likes.

david7979 · 3 July 2009, 07:09 AM

its hard to decide which one to get...

brainbizz · 3 July 2009, 08:47 AM

I personally have no problems choosing between the 312 or 233. 233 worth every penny. 312 may be a good watch but its no 233.

brainbizz · 3 July 2009, 11:14 AM

I have no issues with value itself but for petes sake they are watches buy what u like if its an off brand get a good deal. Look at the PN Daytonas back in the day they were difficult to sell. Who knew.

B. Doggy · 3 July 2009, 11:58 AM

233. There's no competition. an 8-day movement is a wonderful thing. 3-day is ho hum.

2 July 2009, 09:04 AM	#1
david7979 Banned Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: LOS ANGELES, CA Posts: 31	233 vs 275 which one would you prefer? How much of price difference in these models? is it worth it to pay more for 275?

2 July 2009, 04:24 PM	#6
rotan "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Real Name: Leong Location: Singapore Watch: AP 15202ST Posts: 210	233 definitely... __________________ Rolex Batman 116710BLNR Audemars Piguet 15202ST H series

2 July 2009, 09:57 PM	#13
rotan "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Real Name: Leong Location: Singapore Watch: AP 15202ST Posts: 210	Yes I have... 233 is nicer... 270 IMO is too cluttered... Like squeezing a lot of things into the dial... __________________ Rolex Batman 116710BLNR Audemars Piguet 15202ST H series

3 July 2009, 03:10 AM	#16
rotan "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Real Name: Leong Location: Singapore Watch: AP 15202ST Posts: 210	Yup but 233 is still better... __________________ Rolex Batman 116710BLNR Audemars Piguet 15202ST H series

3 July 2009, 06:19 AM	#22
Nica64 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: USA Posts: 2,596	233 for me! __________________ ______________________________ You can't turn back the clock. But you can wind it up again.

2 July 2009, 09:11 AM	#2
Bebot "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: Emil Location: Bay Area, CA Watch: U macallit Posts: 2,645	I think this topic has been beaten to death. Anyhow, if I remember correctly, most people here pick 233. At least those that are own or a fan of Panerai.

2 July 2009, 10:19 AM	#3
brainbizz Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 608	It is my understanding that there have been issues with the movement of the 275. 233 tough to beat

2 July 2009, 10:34 AM	#4
drtooth73 Banned Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: W. Stutman Location: Motor City Watch: TT GMT IIC Posts: 2,223	I tried on 270 and 233 yesterday. The 270 looks more impressive

2 July 2009, 03:25 PM	#5
Trurolexer Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: USA Watch: 5513MaxiI+PreComex Posts: 18,421	233

2 July 2009, 09:27 PM	#7
Zed Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: UK Watch: Panerai 186 & 233 Posts: 489	233 all the way....

2 July 2009, 10:40 PM	#10
brainbizz Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 608	What is the deal post reads 275 monopulsante not 270.

3 July 2009, 01:42 AM	#14
hflee55 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Real Name: Andy Location: Kuala Lumpur, MY Watch: Me Watching You!! Posts: 3,260	233...without a doubt.

3 July 2009, 03:05 AM	#15
david7979 Banned Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: LOS ANGELES, CA Posts: 31	I was comparing to 275 not 270. 275 is same 8 days but chrono.

3 July 2009, 03:34 AM	#17
drtooth73 Banned Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: W. Stutman Location: Motor City Watch: TT GMT IIC Posts: 2,223	Well, up close on the photos, I agree, the dial is less cluttered. But on the wrist I felt 270 had better presence. David7979: sorry I kinda hijacked the thread

3 July 2009, 04:27 AM	#18
VazLube Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: South of Equator Posts: 278	I also did compare 233 and 270 side by side, and no doubt, 233 is winner in my book. 233 has bigger 12 and 6 while 270 is smaller with 9 squeezed in, is bit wee unbalanced for lack of corresponding 3 marker. (312 looks fine to me although). 270 is bit thicker than 233. Now for 275, I don't think it's comparable to 233 because of feature being chrono function and matte hands (?). If I had spare change I would get 311 (Ti) or 317 (Ceramic) !

3 July 2009, 04:49 AM	#19
brainbizz Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 608	I would argue it is comparable but once I heard of the potential movement problems I passed. 233 to 270 has been beat and beat and beat. I own both use the search key to find the multiple threads if interested.

3 July 2009, 04:54 AM	#20
VazLube Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: South of Equator Posts: 278	Brian, what kind of issues of that movement in 275 you've heard?

3 July 2009, 05:43 AM	#21
brainbizz Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 608	There was a problem with the chrono function and several people returned their watches. I was looking to buy the gold with blue face but purchased 289 instead. New technology and new movements are great but one must be suspicious. I am a fan of the 8 day movement and even have a 268 but am staying away from 275. The 317 would be a different story just because.

3 July 2009, 06:31 AM	#24
david7979 Banned Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: LOS ANGELES, CA Posts: 31	what about 312??? what do you guys think about the new 312? I can't decide which one to buy. I have narrow down to 233 or 312.... I am leaning towards 233 but there is about 6k price difference...

3 July 2009, 06:37 AM	#25
david7979 Banned Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: LOS ANGELES, CA Posts: 31	how does everyone feel about 312? do you think it will hold the value?

3 July 2009, 07:04 AM	#26
drtooth73 Banned Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: W. Stutman Location: Motor City Watch: TT GMT IIC Posts: 2,223	312: who knows whether it will keep value in this economy? My current philosophy about luxury watches: buy what you really like, preferably with a nice discount if you worry about resale. Dont buy what someone else likes.

3 July 2009, 07:09 AM	#27
david7979 Banned Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: LOS ANGELES, CA Posts: 31	its hard to decide which one to get...

3 July 2009, 08:47 AM	#28
brainbizz Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 608	I personally have no problems choosing between the 312 or 233. 233 worth every penny. 312 may be a good watch but its no 233.

3 July 2009, 11:14 AM	#29
brainbizz Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 608	I have no issues with value itself but for petes sake they are watches buy what u like if its an off brand get a good deal. Look at the PN Daytonas back in the day they were difficult to sell. Who knew.

3 July 2009, 11:58 AM	#30
B. Doggy "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Real Name: Bryan Location: Oregon Posts: 7,399	233. There's no competition. an 8-day movement is a wonderful thing. 3-day is ho hum. __________________ Rolex / Panerai / Omega

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