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Old 21 May 2022, 10:00 AM   #1
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Logged 1.2 hours of flight time in a C172 today!

So I switched to a different flight academy, still at CYOO, but lucked out with my instructor.

My other instructor had to cancel today, but luckily the guy that replaced him is an ATP! Unfortunately, due to the pandemic he had to return to bring a CFI for financial reasons. Chances are he's going to be back in action soon, so I'll take full advantage for now. He's typed on the Boeing 777 and has logged time in an Aribus (forget which one he's type rated on).

Anyway, it was a great flight, very bumpy day, but the weather cleared up to facilitate this flight happening.

I was able to obtain a head mount for various devices, including the GO Pro, but used my phone without ATC audio (need the cable). It'll be good for study purposes and hopefully when I have time to go through the 1 hour 18 minute video I can find some clips worth sharing.

Tired as ever right now after the flight and more so the drive to and from the airport.

Anyway, hopefully you enjoy the images as it's the next best thing to being there!



























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Old 21 May 2022, 10:34 AM   #2
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Very cool

But shouldn't you be wearing an Emergency instead??
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Old 21 May 2022, 10:38 AM   #3
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Very cool Rommel, thanks for posting these

Nice watch as well
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Old 21 May 2022, 10:44 AM   #4
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Very cool

But shouldn't you be wearing an Emergency instead??
Haha, I've always thought so too! Thankful the aircraft has an ELT.

Thank goodness for redundancies, as one of our radios failed today. We could only use it for ATIS but not for communications.

For cross country adventures I like the idea of having the Emergency, the history behind that piece is incredible.

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Awesome! Next time take me with you.
You bet, Paul! As a former Fighter Pilot I'm certain you would've had no issues with the turbulence today.

My instructor told me a story about how he made one of the other CFI's throw up on a flight recently.
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Awesome! Next time take me with you.
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Old 21 May 2022, 11:00 AM   #6
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Great fun. Thanks for sharing.
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Old 21 May 2022, 11:27 AM   #8
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That is awesome. Flying scares me! Love the Breitling, looks really good.
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Looks like was a great day for you, Romel! Thanks for sharing.
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I see you noticed an RV-8….good spotting! I’m partial to that model myself!
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Great pics. Sounds like a great day too.
Thanks, it truly was! Each time I go up is unique and provided memories I'll cherish for a lifetime.

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Thanks, Danny! For this setting one of my Breitling's is a must. This one's been on the most adventures and feels right at home in the cockpit.


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It can definitely have it's moments, that's for sure. Experiencing certain manuvers or sensations for the first time can take getting used to. Thanks! I feel like the Chrono SuperOcean is the perfect size for me.

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Looks like was a great day for you, Romel! Thanks for sharing.
It certainly was , Panos! I've got another lesson booked for Tuesday, as I took the day off. It's difficult for me to make time to go there. It's important that I go as often as possible.

I'm booked with a different instructor Tuesday, whom I met today as he told me we're flying together. This shouldn't be an issue though based on my PTR and Logbook entities.

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I see you noticed an RV-8….good spotting! I’m partial to that model myself!
It's such a neat aircraft and must be a blast to fly! The best part of being on that side of the fence is getting an unrestricted view of things like this. Didn't have time to go into the hanger today but the coolest planes typically seem to be in that general area.
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Heading back to the states from San Juan. Keep up the good work.
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Heading back to the states from San Juan. Keep up the good work.
Wow... the feeling has to be amazing seeing this, being there all alone.
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So, for all you pilots out there… here is an admission… I suck at over-wings. I learned to fly in a T-34C Mentor, a Beach turboprop (Navy Primary trainer). It is similar to a Piper, maybe a mooney, point being they are low-wings, you sit on top of the lift of the aircraft. The area this makes a difference is in landing, specifically the flare. I could grease on the 34, and after I had my license, my friend’s Piper. Now, we get to the Cessna 172, (I think) the most popular airplane in the world. When I was landing it, I flew it like an over-loaded truck. There is something about hanging underneath the lift of the aircraft when doing the flare that I just can not do (very well anyway). Now, with a low-wing, me sitting on TOP of the lift of the aircraft, I can flare and land with the best of them. What’s the big difference? I don’t know, but the point of this whole post:

When I fly with one of you guys in an over-wing like a 172, and we come in for the landing and I begin the flare…. Well, you might just want to hang on….
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So, for all you pilots out there… here is an admission… I suck at over-wings. I learned to fly in a T-34C Mentor, a Beach turboprop (Navy Primary trainer). It is similar to a Piper, maybe a mooney, point being they are low-wings, you sit on top of the lift of the aircraft. The area this makes a difference is in landing, specifically the flare. I could grease on the 34, and after I had my license, my friend’s Piper. Now, we get to the Cessna 172, (I think) the most popular airplane in the world. When I was landing it, I flew it like an over-loaded truck. There is something about hanging underneath the lift of the aircraft when doing the flare that I just can not do (very well anyway). Now, with a low-wing, me sitting on TOP of the lift of the aircraft, I can flare and land with the best of them. What’s the big difference? I don’t know, but the point of this whole post:

When I fly with one of you guys in an over-wing like a 172, and we come in for the landing and I begin the flare…. Well, you might just want to hang on….
I have a fair amount of time in both high wing and low wing aircraft. Yes, ground effect does play a bigger part in landing a low wing airplane. I don't know that I really prefer one over the other. I learned to fly in a C-150, then continued most of my training in Pipers. They both have their pros and cons. However, I do think a low wing airplane looks better.

Keep up the good work Rommel, and please keep taking us along with you.
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So, for all you pilots out there… here is an admission… I suck at over-wings. I learned to fly in a T-34C Mentor, a Beach turboprop (Navy Primary trainer). It is similar to a Piper, maybe a mooney, point being they are low-wings, you sit on top of the lift of the aircraft. The area this makes a difference is in landing, specifically the flare. I could grease on the 34, and after I had my license, my friend’s Piper. Now, we get to the Cessna 172, (I think) the most popular airplane in the world. When I was landing it, I flew it like an over-loaded truck. There is something about hanging underneath the lift of the aircraft when doing the flare that I just can not do (very well anyway). Now, with a low-wing, me sitting on TOP of the lift of the aircraft, I can flare and land with the best of them. What’s the big difference? I don’t know, but the point of this whole post:

When I fly with one of you guys in an over-wing like a 172, and we come in for the landing and I begin the flare…. Well, you might just want to hang on….
You perfect what you practice. If you learned in a high wing, you would grease the 172 and prang the first few times in a low wing. Funny thing is you get kinda dependant on a perticular set up which can change from plane to plane....even serial number to serial number. I used to fly the same serial number GIV for 7 years. I had that plane dialed in on landings as I had the pedals, seat, height, tilt etc set up exactly how I liked it. Then I would fly another GIV and the seat padding was a little more 'broken in' or brand new (higher seating position) and it threw me off my game a bit. Over the last few months, Ive been flying a number of different G-Wagons. Each one is a little different and takes a landing or two to find the sweet spot.
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You perfect what you practice. If you learned in a high wing, you would grease the 172 and prang the first few times in a low wing. Funny thing is you get kinda dependant on a perticular set up which can change from plane to plane....even serial number to serial number. I used to fly the same serial number GIV for 7 years. I had that plane dialed in on landings as I had the pedals, seat, height, tilt etc set up exactly how I liked it. Then I would fly another GIV and the seat padding was a little more 'broken in' or brand new (higher seating position) and it threw me off my game a bit. Over the last few months, Ive been flying a number of different G-Wagons. Each one is a little different and takes a landing or two to find the sweet spot.
Take me with you….

My squadron buddy flies corporate in a GIV, I get some stick time… strictly unofficial of course (I do have my civilian commercial rating). Man that is FUN!!!!! Makes me think about getting back in to it professionally.
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Take me with you….

My squadron buddy flies corporate in a GIV, I get some stick time… strictly unofficial of course (I do have my civilian commercial rating). Man that is FUN!!!!! Makes me think about getting back in to it professionally.
Ever single airline is hiring these days and are desperate for pilots. Quite a few military guys are being hired that have been out of the game for a while too. You never know.
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So I switched to a different flight academy, still at CYOO, but lucked out with my instructor.

My other instructor had to cancel today, but luckily the guy that replaced him is an ATP! Unfortunately, due to the pandemic he had to return to bring a CFI for financial reasons. Chances are he's going to be back in action soon, so I'll take full advantage for now. He's typed on the Boeing 777 and has logged time in an Aribus (forget which one he's type rated on).

OP, happy for you! This was my first love and passion and I think of being up there everyday!! If I could throw in one small piece of advice, look for an instructor that has been pressure tested through a lifetime of flying. By no mean am I insinuating that your 777 instructor isn’t that person. When I was learning to fly, 27 years ago, I couldn’t afford the nice flight schools nor the fancy aircraft. My flight instructor, may he rest in piece, was a WWII veteran, a gem and sweet man! He was always grumpy and would make me do stuff like hours of ground to map flying with an eye patch or a visor, he was always teaching me little tricks that inevitably saved my life countless times in the mountains and northern flying I did.

You can get great flight instruction from a CFI and qualified pilot. But you can’t get life experience.



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So, for all you pilots out there… here is an admission… I suck at over-wings. I learned to fly in a T-34C Mentor, a Beach turboprop (Navy Primary trainer). It is similar to a Piper, maybe a mooney, point being they are low-wings, you sit on top of the lift of the aircraft. The area this makes a difference is in landing, specifically the flare. I could grease on the 34, and after I had my license, my friend’s Piper. Now, we get to the Cessna 172, (I think) the most popular airplane in the world. When I was landing it, I flew it like an over-loaded truck. There is something about hanging underneath the lift of the aircraft when doing the flare that I just can not do (very well anyway). Now, with a low-wing, me sitting on TOP of the lift of the aircraft, I can flare and land with the best of them. What’s the big difference? I don’t know, but the point of this whole post:

When I fly with one of you guys in an over-wing like a 172, and we come in for the landing and I begin the flare…. Well, you might just want to hang on….
I don’t have that problem that you describe Paul. Unless someone changes the settings on my seat, well damn, I might as well crash land the plane!! One plane I’ve never had to think about landing smoothly was the Grand Caravan C208. Didn’t matter what I did to it, it always landed smoothly…
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I don’t have that problem that you describe Paul. Unless someone changes the settings on my seat, well damn, I might as well crash land the plane!! One plane I’ve never had to think about landing smoothly was the Grand Caravan C208. Didn’t matter what I did to it, it always landed smoothly…
Funny you should say that. We just had a passenger land a C208 with no flying experience after his pilot became incapacitated here in West Palm Beach, Fl.

He did a great job with the help of an Air Traffic Controller who was also a flight instructor.
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Such a fascinating thing...one of those things that I always wanted to try but never did! Keep it up Rommel!
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That’s awesome Rommel! Are you doing this for pleasure or do you hope to work in aviation?

Side bar …. I had a chance to fly up to Muskoka on a small float plane many years ago. You don’t really think of it, or get to see it when you drive up there, but it really struck me as we were flying in just how many lakes are up there. Water everywhere, I mean everywhere!
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Heading back to the states from San Juan. Keep up the good work.
Thanks! Lovely view, it never gets old.

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So, for all you pilots out there… here is an admission… I suck at over-wings. I learned to fly in a T-34C Mentor, a Beach turboprop (Navy Primary trainer). It is similar to a Piper, maybe a mooney, point being they are low-wings, you sit on top of the lift of the aircraft. The area this makes a difference is in landing, specifically the flare. I could grease on the 34, and after I had my license, my friend’s Piper. Now, we get to the Cessna 172, (I think) the most popular airplane in the world. When I was landing it, I flew it like an over-loaded truck. There is something about hanging underneath the lift of the aircraft when doing the flare that I just can not do (very well anyway). Now, with a low-wing, me sitting on TOP of the lift of the aircraft, I can flare and land with the best of them. What’s the big difference? I don’t know, but the point of this whole post:

When I fly with one of you guys in an over-wing like a 172, and we come in for the landing and I begin the flare…. Well, you might just want to hang on….
That's a very interesting point, the 172 is the only plane I've logged time in thus far. Sounds like it would be a fun flight!


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Thanks, Nick! You should definitely give it a try. I can assure you it'll be a memorable experience in the best of ways.

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That’s awesome Rommel! Are you doing this for pleasure or do you hope to work in aviation?

Side bar …. I had a chance to fly up to Muskoka on a small float plane many years ago. You don’t really think of it, or get to see it when you drive up there, but it really struck me as we were flying in just how many lakes are up there. Water everywhere, I mean everywhere!
Thanks, Brian! Not aiming to be an Airline Transport Pilot, but pursuing it more as a hobby. I'm in no rush, but the ultimate for me is to volunteer. Hope Air and other orgs might be where I look, but each flight produces memories (and ultimately stories) I'll cherish for a lifetime.

I can imagine! Didn't fly around that area yet, but have been North and East of CYOO. Yesterday it was lovely seeing lake Ontario to the right and at one point Rice Lake on the left. Such an incredible thing to see!


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I have a fair amount of time in both high wing and low wing aircraft. Yes, ground effect does play a bigger part in landing a low wing airplane. I don't know that I really prefer one over the other. I learned to fly in a C-150, then continued most of my training in Pipers. They both have their pros and cons. However, I do think a low wing airplane looks better.

Keep up the good work Rommel, and please keep taking us along with you.
Thanks, will do! Trying to go as often as possible. Yesterday we had a 6:00 PM lesson booked but the previous student puked all over the plane. The next plane wouldn't start (the instructor tried for a while) and mechanics had to be called from the hanger. That's the same aircraft from my original post in this thread that had a radio failure days before.

Got into the next aircraft, and dispatch gave the instructor the wrong key. When all was said and done, time down was closer to 9:00 PM which was amazing to experience. Then the post flight talk in the briefing room, adding it to my logbook, etc I left at around 9:30 PM.

When I got home it was hard to sleep because of the excitement and positive feedback the CFI provided for my radio come and pilot skills thus far. It's even documented in my PTR which is cool.


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My ideal setup is a mounted action camera with ATC audio, but I'll have to look into quick, easy, and secure methods of placing them that won't take up too mucht time.

Yesterday was a great example, having to get set up in one aircraft and then lug the bags (headset, pilots bag, and aircraft documents) with me. This would've been even worse if I had set up a coupe cameras but won't always be an issue.


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OP, happy for you! This was my first love and passion and I think of being up there everyday!! If I could throw in one small piece of advice, look for an instructor that has been pressure tested through a lifetime of flying. By no mean am I insinuating that your 777 instructor isn’t that person. When I was learning to fly, 27 years ago, I couldn’t afford the nice flight schools nor the fancy aircraft. My flight instructor, may he rest in piece, was a WWII veteran, a gem and sweet man! He was always grumpy and would make me do stuff like hours of ground to map flying with an eye patch or a visor, he was always teaching me little tricks that inevitably saved my life countless times in the mountains and northern flying I did.

You can get great flight instruction from a CFI and qualified pilot. But you can’t get life experience.
100%, and that's what I've always looked for. Many of the instructors at these places definitely lack the life experience. They've got the hours and skill no doubt, but that life experience, the mentor is what I seek.

Captain Scott comes to mind, a retired 747 pilot (askcaptainscott on YouTube).

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Fantastic! Thanks for sharing!

My sister became a commercial airline pilot after years of logging in her hours as a student, and later becoming a flight instructor.

Now is the perfect time for anyone interested in becoming a pilot. After Alaska Airlines recently canceled one of my flights, the rep told me the industry is down about 10k pilots. That’s consistent with what I’ve read.
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Funny you should say that. We just had a passenger land a C208 with no flying experience after his pilot became incapacitated here in West Palm Beach, Fl.

He did a great job with the help of an Air Traffic Controller who was also a flight instructor.
Such an incredible story and glad it ended this way.



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Haha I'll have to get one of those too.

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