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Old 25 May 2022, 04:44 AM   #1
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New GS High Accuracy Quartz - SBGP017

Announced today - LE of 2.000 pcs in the currently cool light blue colour with lion’s mane motif.

Golden star at 6 o’clock indicates high accuracy quartz, usually meaning accuracy of +/- 5 seconds per year.

Will probably sell like hot cakes. Price not announce as of yet.

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Old 25 May 2022, 06:57 AM   #2
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Wow. 44GS case, blue version of the cherry blossom…looks incredible
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Old 25 May 2022, 08:42 AM   #3
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These are very nice indeed.
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Old 25 May 2022, 09:26 AM   #4
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Beautiful watch, classic case.

Yep, 9F is rated -/+ 5 secs/year with the star on the dial, and -/+10 secs a year without the star (regular dial) - although my regular dial SBGT235 only gained +1 sec over 12 months to March 2022.
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Old 2 July 2022, 09:46 AM   #5
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Beautiful watch, classic case.

Yep, 9F is rated -/+ 5 secs/year with the star on the dial, and -/+10 secs a year without the star (regular dial) - although my regular dial SBGT235 only gained +1 sec over 12 months to March 2022.

My non star 9f some how does 2-3s /per year. They are insane.


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Old 2 July 2022, 11:01 PM   #6
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Is there a big difference in finishing between the entry level SBGX263 ($2,200) and the LE SBGP017 ($3,800 ) ? I understand the SBGP017 has a 44GS case, Gold Star at 6pm, and +- 5 Sec/year .
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Old 25 May 2022, 11:05 AM   #7
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40mm case, cherry blossom is still the only small 44GS. 10.2mm thick, sounds good.
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Old 25 May 2022, 04:09 PM   #8
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Lookin’ good.
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Old 25 May 2022, 04:39 PM   #9
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Looks to be $3800\ £3000

https://topperjewelers.com/collectio...dition-sbgp017
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Old 25 May 2022, 06:11 PM   #10
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Good find, thanks. I was expecting between 4 and 5k….

That site has a nice photo of the movement:

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Old 25 May 2022, 11:33 PM   #11
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Good find, thanks. I was expecting between 4 and 5k….

That site has a nice photo of the movement:


Here is a real case one.

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Here is a real case one.



Looks great! Thanks for the photo.
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Old 25 May 2022, 07:05 PM   #13
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https://www.grand-seiko.com/global-e...ovement/quartz
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Old 25 May 2022, 08:47 PM   #14
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I like it. I will contact my AD and see if I can get one.
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Old 26 May 2022, 05:57 AM   #15
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Nice dial, but I don't care for quartz watches. Mechanical is a real watch..JMO.
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Old 7 June 2022, 03:21 PM   #16
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Now we’ve got an official announcement from GS.
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Old 7 June 2022, 03:27 PM   #17
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Now we’ve got an official announcement from GS. With more photos/renders. The lion’s mane motif, together with the blued logo and seconds’ hand, are stunners.

Impossible not to mention the discussed by us quartz movement, visible through the transparent caseback. This one is the only 3rd case when GS made a transparent back covering a quartz. And 2nd time with such a finish with beautiful blued screws. Just a joy for eyes.

All this at a reasonable price pont.

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Old 7 June 2022, 06:25 PM   #18
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I got a 9F battery changed at the Seiko Service Centre recently (I could have done it at home but I wanted a pressure test, too) and the technician was quite put out that the original owner hadn't used an official Seiko battery for its previous replacement
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Old 7 June 2022, 07:11 PM   #19
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I got a 9F battery changed at the Seiko Service Centre recently (I could have done it at home but I wanted a pressure test, too) and the technician was quite put out that the original owner hadn't used an official Seiko battery for its previous replacement

Did they have an optional gold-plated battery version?
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Did they have an optional gold-plated battery version?
No but for what they charged me I could have bought ten generic batteries and the requisite case tools. Anyway, it's good for another three years, during which time it won't even need to have the time set again if it runs as well as my other one.
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I saw the announcement and still want this watch. Looking forward to seeing it at my AD.
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I pre-ordered it! Looking forward :)
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Old 9 June 2022, 12:35 AM   #23
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I pre-ordered it! Looking forward :)
Same man! Looking forward to it too. My first Grand Seiko.
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Same man! Looking forward to it too. My first Grand Seiko.
Well done!

I'm thinking of ordering this one also as my first GS, ticks all the boxes for me.
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Old 9 June 2022, 05:04 AM   #25
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Their website notes that it is sold out.

So whatever is heading to shops is all that is left?


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Re-visiting this one after thinking more about it, why GS didn’t spec a “GS” battery or non-Seiko branded battery baffles me.
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Re-visiting this one after thinking more about it, why GS didn’t spec a “GS” battery or non-Seiko branded battery baffles me.

Have they ever did so? I can’t think of any such case. They may think that Seiko is good enough as a battery brand. Or they actuall run a Seiko battery factory (and not a GS one). Or do both.
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New GS High Accuracy Quartz - SBGP017

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Re-visiting this one after thinking more about it, why GS didn’t spec a “GS” battery or non-Seiko branded battery baffles me.


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Have they ever did so? I can’t think of any such case. They may think that Seiko is good enough as a battery brand. Or they actuall run a Seiko battery factory (and not a GS one). Or do both.

Actually they did decide…GS watches spec’d Seiko batteries for their 9F line of Quartz modules.
https://seikoserviceusa.com/img/pdf/...ence-chart.pdf

Seiko, as a battery producer developed their own mercury-free silver oxide batteries. Also, Seiko’s leak resistance was increased by 50% due to a new micro-machine crimping process during manufacturing.


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Actually they did decide…GS watches spec’d Seiko batteries for their 9F line of Quartz modules.
https://seikoserviceusa.com/img/pdf/...ence-chart.pdf

Seiko, as a battery producer developed their own mercury-free silver oxide batteries. Also, Seiko’s leak resistance was increased by 50% due to a new micro-machine crimping process during manufacturing.


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Maybe this is why the SSC guy got a bit upset when he found a Maxell in mine

From your list Paul, I assume these are the same ones. Might get a couple, though I wonder if Seiko might come with a new longer-life battery in the near future.
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Have they ever did so? I can’t think of any such case. They may think that Seiko is good enough as a battery brand. Or they actuall run a Seiko battery factory (and not a GS one). Or do both.
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Actually they did decide…GS watches spec’d Seiko batteries for their 9F line of Quartz modules.
https://seikoserviceusa.com/img/pdf/...ence-chart.pdf

Seiko, as a battery producer developed their own mercury-free silver oxide batteries. Also, Seiko’s leak resistance was increased by 50% due to a new micro-machine crimping process during manufacturing.


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I'm okay with the choice of a quality Seiko battery. What I meant by my comment is that, since the watch has a display back, Grand Seiko should have taken the extra step to either agree with Seiko to have the battery stamped with a GS logo or have the battery be un-branded and nicely finished instead. I think that would have added more panache to the quartz movement that otherwise is technically impressive but also looks good....

Instead, what we have is the equivalent of a Ferrari or Bugatti showing off Fiat or VW bits, respectively, in the engine. I am not criticizing any of these brands....I just think there should be clear visual separation between them even when there is corporate overlap.

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