I haven't slept for a week...

[Vesper Lynd]

I haven't slept for a week...
......not at all.
I went to AD Rolex today... as I said in this thread.

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=858095


There hasn't been the slightest chance of buying my desired Explorer, but neither has the Oyster Perpetual or any sporty Rolex, or even getting on the list. It is really disheartening and disappointing.
It's sad to have the money to buy half a shop, or more, but they won't let you because of this "policy".
Anyway, I will continue with my Explorer ll polar and my Datejust, and possibly visit the AD of other watch brands. They are not going to extinguish my passion for watches, although today was very disappointing, although I was realistic and aware of the situation, I was very excited because I am still like a child.

[pursang_]

Just wait. Market normalcy will hit the ADs before too long.

[beshannon]

Originally Posted by pursang_

Just wait. Market normalcy will hit the ADs before too long.

And I completely disagree.

As long as there are posts everyday just like this thread, the demand and desperation are way too high for "normal" to ever return.

[4 Aussies]

Originally Posted by beshannon

And I completely disagree.

As long as there are posts everyday just like this thread, the demand and desperation are way too high for "normal" to ever return.

Agree 100%

[blargle]

Originally Posted by beshannon

And I completely disagree.

As long as there are posts everyday just like this thread, the demand and desperation are way too high for "normal" to ever return.

And I completely disagree with you.

There is blood in the water, the 'average' people who were buying luxury goods with furlough cash and the extra money they had from COVID lockdown are slowly realising soon they will not be able to afford food or gas come this Autumn - where is all this 'demand and desperation' you speak of going to come from? COVID was peak consumer demand, it happened, and we are on the way down - hard

the only 'demand' i can think of is demand from desperate, over-leveraged vultures (grey dealers) to unload stock before the inevitable interest rate hike(s) leading to a downward spiral of rolex prices

I'm guessing you haven't have been keeping on top of consumer sentiment and inflation data? (the worst we have seen in decades) and wonder whether you have taken the time to consider what this may mean for future potential interest rate hikes? or indeed the secondary effect on the average debt laden citizen, business (and government)?

again, I completely disagree with you.

[mountainjogger]

Originally Posted by blargle

And I completely disagree with you.

There is blood in the water, the 'average' people who were buying luxury goods with furlough cash and the extra money they had from COVID lockdown are slowly realising soon they will not be able to afford food or gas come this Autumn - where is all this 'demand and desperation' you speak of going to come from? COVID was peak consumer demand, it happened, and we are on the way down - hard

the only 'demand' i can think of is demand from desperate, over-leveraged vultures (grey dealers) to unload stock before the inevitable interest rate hike(s) leading to a downward spiral of rolex prices

I'm guessing you haven't have been keeping on top of consumer sentiment and inflation data? (the worst we have seen in decades) and wonder whether you have taken the time to consider what this may mean for future potential interest rate hikes? or indeed the secondary effect on the average debt laden citizen, business (and government)?

again, I completely disagree with you.

I will leave global ecconomic analysis to you and others more knowledgeable than I. Which may be interesting, but does not change the situation on the ground.

But back to Brian's point. And what he said is quite simple.

"As long as there are posts everyday just like this thread" we are not going back to normal where anyone can a Rolex at an AD without being a preferred customer or a long wait.

By definition, as long as there is a backlog of demand to buy from an AD, the situation is not going to change.

With respect, you can disagree all you want. But until you convince my AD to pony up the Rolex I have been waiting for, your disagreement does not change the facts on the ground.

[travisb]

Just buy grey if it's consuming you that much. Get some sleep, move on and enjoy life.

[Bizcut1]

Originally Posted by blargle

And I completely disagree with you.

There is blood in the water, the 'average' people who were buying luxury goods with furlough cash and the extra money they had from COVID lockdown are slowly realising soon they will not be able to afford food or gas come this Autumn - where is all this 'demand and desperation' you speak of going to come from? COVID was peak consumer demand, it happened, and we are on the way down - hard

the only 'demand' i can think of is demand from desperate, over-leveraged vultures (grey dealers) to unload stock before the inevitable interest rate hike(s) leading to a downward spiral of rolex prices

I'm guessing you haven't have been keeping on top of consumer sentiment and inflation data? (the worst we have seen in decades) and wonder whether you have taken the time to consider what this may mean for future potential interest rate hikes? or indeed the secondary effect on the average debt laden citizen, business (and government)?

again, I completely disagree with you.

You're dreaming....and bolding it doesn't make it any less of a fantasy...

Enjoy your Seikos...

[eijiboy]

Originally Posted by pursang_

Just wait. Market normalcy will hit the ADs before too long.

You dont need to go to ad. It will probably be empty still. Grey will start selling msrp plus tax so no need. Maybe a few bucks more but not like this.


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[Nairn1980]

Originally Posted by pursang_

Just wait. Market normalcy will hit the ADs before too long.

I seriously doubt it

[Paka]

Jesus christ man, sleep!

[amphr1]

Originally Posted by Paka

Jesus christ man, sleep!

What he said

[Nunez. Jacob]

LOL one week of not sleeping danggggg

[shaunylw]

Or as you have enough money to buy half the shop, spend the extra 3k and buy it from a dealer today.


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[JayHantz]

Originally Posted by shaunylw

Or as you have enough money to buy half the shop, spend the extra 3k and buy it from a dealer today.


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Seems like a very good option to me.

[Laostuh]

Originally Posted by shaunylw

Or as you have enough money to buy half the shop, spend the extra 3k and buy it from a dealer today.


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Originally Posted by JayHantz

Seems like a very good option to me.

+1 if you really want it THAT bad and have enough money to buy half a shop as you mentioned why not just fork out the extra $3k and get some much needed sleep..?

[JSolution]

Originally Posted by shaunylw

Or as you have enough money to buy half the shop, spend the extra 3k and buy it from a dealer today.


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Absolutely.

[watchgirl2022]

Just go grey. Pay your way :)

[StuartG]

Originally Posted by Vesper Lynd

I haven't slept for a week...
......not at all.

Is this a joke? You’re really screwing with your mental and physical health over a watch? Wow.

[Henrimontgomery]

Originally Posted by StuartG

Is this a joke? You’re really screwing with your mental and physical health over a watch? Wow.

Yeah. I’ll swap his problems with mine ASAP lol. I’ve been rushed to ER 2 times in a month and when I see people losing sleep over a watch, I’m thinking they are really privileged.

[doboy007]

hope you're joking

[Turbo Racer]

I would get some sleep and wait. I can totally relate to the excitement aspect. However, the tides have turned on the secondary market and I believe there are strong headwinds coming. You will get what you are looking for.

[Politiceaux]

You have enough money to buy half the store but you’ve lost sleep for a week over two entry level models that can be had relatively cheaply on the grey market?

I wish I had your problems. I’d hate to see you in a real crisis situation. I genuinely hope you don’t experience one.

[~JJ]

My recommendation is to

[douglasf13]

Can’t really imagine buying the 124270 for thousands more than msrp when the 14270 and 114270 are easily available for less than current Explorer msrp.

[Stan Cooper]

Originally Posted by douglasf13

Can’t really imagine buying the 124270 for thousands more than msrp when the 14270 and 114270 are easily available for less than current Explorer msrp.

^^ This.

Buy a gently used 14270 or 114270 (or even a 124270) from one of the trusted secondary market dealers then send it to a Rolex Service Center for service (~$750). You'll get back a like new watch with a Rolex warranty and your name on the RSC paperwork documenting the service. No waiting and thousands less than a new 124270 from a grey.

I've purchased all of my (four) Rolexes this way and have never been disappointed.

[Nepats81]

trolling

[jets]

Spend the money gray and post an incoming. Done.


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[Jimbo]

Damn, if you are that desperate for an OP or Exp 1, buy on the grey and swallow the mark up.

Oh, and I disagree about the prices not coming down. I strongly believe they will, and Exp I and IIs and OPs will also get hit although their runups were not as steep as the GMT IIs and Daytona's of the world.

Going grey may not be as much of a markup as before in 3-6 months time.

[espanol]

Mark up on either model is not that much. Just buy both and move on.

I bought a 126000 silver grey for $6,500 in December from Moda. 124270 Explorer can be negotiated down to ~$8k.