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fareplay · 27 July 2022, 05:30 AM

I just received an offer for VC overseas silver and I like the watch but my AP SA just said they may receive a shipment soon. Is that a hint or am I overthinking? Id rather have the RO or ROO but I do really like the VC and only can get one this year.

ExplorerI · 27 July 2022, 05:39 AM

The AP boutique I talked to made it sound pretty reasonable to get a ROO do you may hold out if you’d much rather have that. Although there’s an expression about a bird in the hand that applies here.

HMHM · 27 July 2022, 05:43 AM

Which RO or ROO do you have in mind?

fareplay · 27 July 2022, 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by HMHM

Which RO or ROO do you have in mind?

Either 15500ST.OO.1220ST.02 or the 26238ST.OO.A340CA.01 in bracelet

Fifteen · 27 July 2022, 05:46 AM

I'll buy the vc overseas from you if you'd like, and you will have a purchase history with them. you will then still have cash for an ap :)

at the end of the day, you should not settle for anything except your top choice, especially now. new data is coming in every week from the fed about broader consumer spend, and I see the watch industry becoming a buyer's market very soon

raclaims · 27 July 2022, 06:00 AM

Vc make far fewer watches per annum than ap

However in the end I’d wait for or buy which one you love

fareplay · 27 July 2022, 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by raclaims

Vc make far fewer watches per annum than ap

However in the end I’d wait for or buy which one you love

Pm'd you

raclaims · 27 July 2022, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by fareplay

Pm'd you

No pm in my inbox? Happy to answer any questions you may have

Btw RO was also pretty easy to get a few years ago too so dont let that scare you off the VC

I have a lot of both brands and they are all awesome

fareplay · 27 July 2022, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by raclaims

No pm in my inbox? Happy to answer any questions you may have

Btw RO was also pretty easy to get a few years ago too so dont let that scare you off the VC

I have a lot of both brands and they are all awesome

Sorry meant to quote someone else!

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macrowatch · 27 July 2022, 08:36 AM

Market continues to soften.

But beyond this. Always get the one you want. The most expensive mistakes in collecting are buying the second pick, missing the first, and then paying for the top pick anyways.

huncho · 27 July 2022, 06:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raclaims

Vc make far fewer watches per annum than ap

However in the end I’d wait for or buy which one you love

they were still pretty undesirable until no one could get APs. but to your point, gotta buy what you want more. i personally would take a RO over a VC any day

ExplorerI · 27 July 2022, 06:15 AM

If you got offered a RO you could always sell the vc if you had to

HMHM · 27 July 2022, 06:16 AM

If your AP SA can assure you of a RO 15500 allocation, then probably you should give up the VCO allocation. Between the VCO and the ROO, ultimately it depends which one you like. Since you have indicated you prefer the ROO, I think its best you give up the VCO and push for the ROO or RO.

I don't think AP are delivering any 15500ST anymore as it has been replaced by the 15510ST. The 15510ST would be impossible for new customers this year.

Vince_76 · 27 July 2022, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by HMHM

If your AP SA can assure you of a RO 15500 allocation, then probably you should give up the VCO allocation. Between the VCO and the ROO, ultimately it depends which one you like. Since you have indicated you prefer the ROO, I think its best you give up the VCO and push for the ROO or RO.

I don't think AP are delivering any 15500ST anymore as it has been replaced by the 15510ST. The 15510ST would be impossible for new customers this year.

Yeah. Curious if AP is still allocating 15500s

GW44 · 28 July 2022, 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Vince_76

Yeah. Curious if AP is still allocating 15500s

All done/finished for the 15500 in the Uk, can’t speak for the rest of the world cannot be many more to filter through now.

uniqueMR · 27 July 2022, 06:53 AM

Go with AP plus independent brand!

mickyd329 · 27 July 2022, 07:32 AM

I just sold my VC OS Dual Time Blue Dial. It's a great watch but, I found myself not wearing it much after almost 2 years of ownership and moved on. I don't think it has the staying power of an AP RO.

Also, I found the secondary pricing with grey dealers softened quite a bit with most greys not wanting to even buy it.

For what it's worth, I would wait for the RO.

Vipes · 28 July 2022, 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by mickyd329

I just sold my VC OS Dual Time Blue Dial. It's a great watch but, I found myself not wearing it much after almost 2 years of ownership and moved on. I don't think it has the staying power of an AP RO.

Also, I found the secondary pricing with grey dealers softened quite a bit with most greys not wanting to even buy it.

For what it's worth, I would wait for the RO.

I had the same watch and sold it also. Much prefer the RO over the Overseas.

Vivalas · 27 July 2022, 07:35 AM

I had the blue dial VC overseas, great watch but something just didn’t do it for me. RO everyday long for me. Hold out for what you really want.

CactusTreeFiddy · 27 July 2022, 10:20 AM

how much are you offering the VC for? Make a post in the WTS subforum!

DonLee · 27 July 2022, 02:15 PM

IMO, VC Overseas is the best 1 watch collection.

However if you have multiple watches, you’ll find the RO more striking, the aquanaut more effortless to wear, the Nautilus more of an occasion.

benlee · 27 July 2022, 02:45 PM

The thing with AP is that they are never transparent. If you also like the VC and there is confirmed availability, go for the VC.

danwang0520 · 27 July 2022, 05:00 PM

I would wait and get what you want........don't settle for second choice option

AperolSpritz · 27 July 2022, 06:43 PM

I'd wait for the AP.
My feeling is that Overseas will become much easier to grab in the next few months as the general hype on sports' model will continue to fade.
The overseas was always a plan B to RO and Nautis...

DVR · 27 July 2022, 07:23 PM

I had to wait almost 2.5 years for my 15500. But I was told I would get my watch, I just had to be patient I was told.
2 years past and I decided to inquire if I was still 'on the list' and was assured I would get the watch.
IMHO: if your SA told you you'll get one, just wait. If they can't promise you one get the VC and be happy with that.

1William · 27 July 2022, 09:27 PM

One on the wrist is worth several on the list. Unless the SA can tell you that you are allocated one and the time frame I would take the VC. I would take the VC anyway as I prefer it to the AP. Good luck and let us know how this plays out.

ts3 · 27 July 2022, 09:56 PM

Do not settle for second fiddle.

brandrea · 27 July 2022, 09:59 PM

The VC won’t substitute your true watch desire. I’d hold out for the AP

fareplay · 28 July 2022, 04:04 AM

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Originally Posted by brandrea

The VC won’t substitute your true watch desire. I’d hold out for the AP

I passed on the VC. I didn’t really like the silver as much as black or blue so didn’t feel too bad about it but do have some fomo.

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arnage · 28 July 2022, 06:56 AM

I wear the VCO much more frequently than the RO. It feels a bit more "robust" for everyday use, and can be mounted on the rubber strap. It's also less likely to attract unwanted attention, which has become an unfortunate concern these days.

27 July 2022, 05:30 AM	#1
fareplay "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2022 Location: Boston Posts: 126	Do I hold out for AP dream or take the VC? I just received an offer for VC overseas silver and I like the watch but my AP SA just said they may receive a shipment soon. Is that a hint or am I overthinking? Id rather have the RO or ROO but I do really like the VC and only can get one this year.

27 July 2022, 06:53 AM	#16
uniqueMR 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2018 Location: USA Watch: P A T E K Posts: 4,706	Go with AP plus independent brand! __________________ A. Lange & Sohne \| Audemars Piguet \| F.P.Journe \| Omega \| Patek Philippe \| Rolex \| Tudor \| ...and Othersss

27 July 2022, 07:32 AM	#17
mickyd329 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Real Name: Mike Location: Socal Watch: AP/PP/Rolex Posts: 2,051	I just sold my VC OS Dual Time Blue Dial. It's a great watch but, I found myself not wearing it much after almost 2 years of ownership and moved on. I don't think it has the staying power of an AP RO. Also, I found the secondary pricing with grey dealers softened quite a bit with most greys not wanting to even buy it. For what it's worth, I would wait for the RO. __________________ PP 5205G-013/ PP 5212A / AP 15416CE /26574 st QP/ AP 50th 16202st /AP 15500st Black / AP 26405CE / AP 77350CE / AP 15551st / AP 67540sk / Rolex 116500 Panda / Rolex 126710 BLRO / Rolex 126610LV Green / Rolex 16570 Black/ Rolex 116300 Blue / Rolex 126710 BLNR / Rolex 126710 GRNR

27 July 2022, 02:45 PM	#22
benlee "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Real Name: Ben Location: SIN & JKT Watch: Rolex, AP, PP Posts: 9,874	The thing with AP is that they are never transparent. If you also like the VC and there is confirmed availability, go for the VC. __________________ Follow me on Instagram : benlee789

27 July 2022, 07:23 PM	#25
DVR "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Real Name: Denis Location: Flanders, EU Watch: Diver watches Posts: 2,009	I had to wait almost 2.5 years for my 15500. But I was told I would get my watch, I just had to be patient I was told. 2 years past and I decided to inquire if I was still 'on the list' and was assured I would get the watch. IMHO: if your SA told you you'll get one, just wait. If they can't promise you one get the VC and be happy with that. __________________ AP - BP - UN - GO - GS - JLC - RLX

27 July 2022, 05:39 AM	#2
ExplorerI "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2020 Location: USA Watch: Explorer I Posts: 741	The AP boutique I talked to made it sound pretty reasonable to get a ROO do you may hold out if you’d much rather have that. Although there’s an expression about a bird in the hand that applies here.

27 July 2022, 05:43 AM	#3
HMHM "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2019 Real Name: HM Location: 🇲🇾 Posts: 2,477	Which RO or ROO do you have in mind?

27 July 2022, 05:46 AM	#5
Fifteen Banned Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: USA Posts: 246	I'll buy the vc overseas from you if you'd like, and you will have a purchase history with them. you will then still have cash for an ap :) at the end of the day, you should not settle for anything except your top choice, especially now. new data is coming in every week from the fed about broader consumer spend, and I see the watch industry becoming a buyer's market very soon

27 July 2022, 06:00 AM	#6
raclaims "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: NJ Posts: 2,624	Vc make far fewer watches per annum than ap However in the end I’d wait for or buy which one you love

27 July 2022, 08:36 AM	#10
macrowatch "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: HK Posts: 4,366	Market continues to soften. But beyond this. Always get the one you want. The most expensive mistakes in collecting are buying the second pick, missing the first, and then paying for the top pick anyways.

27 July 2022, 06:15 AM	#12
ExplorerI "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2020 Location: USA Watch: Explorer I Posts: 741	If you got offered a RO you could always sell the vc if you had to

27 July 2022, 06:16 AM	#13
HMHM "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2019 Real Name: HM Location: 🇲🇾 Posts: 2,477	If your AP SA can assure you of a RO 15500 allocation, then probably you should give up the VCO allocation. Between the VCO and the ROO, ultimately it depends which one you like. Since you have indicated you prefer the ROO, I think its best you give up the VCO and push for the ROO or RO. I don't think AP are delivering any 15500ST anymore as it has been replaced by the 15510ST. The 15510ST would be impossible for new customers this year.

27 July 2022, 07:35 AM	#19
Vivalas "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Real Name: Stephen Location: UK Watch: AP Posts: 2,646	I had the blue dial VC overseas, great watch but something just didn’t do it for me. RO everyday long for me. Hold out for what you really want.

27 July 2022, 10:20 AM	#20
CactusTreeFiddy "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: San Francisco Posts: 302	how much are you offering the VC for? Make a post in the WTS subforum!

27 July 2022, 02:15 PM	#21
DonLee "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2021 Location: HK Posts: 1,065	IMO, VC Overseas is the best 1 watch collection. However if you have multiple watches, you’ll find the RO more striking, the aquanaut more effortless to wear, the Nautilus more of an occasion.

27 July 2022, 05:00 PM	#23
danwang0520 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2016 Real Name: Daniel Location: Taipei, Taiwan Watch: my signature Posts: 2,684	I would wait and get what you want........don't settle for second choice option

27 July 2022, 06:43 PM	#24
AperolSpritz "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2020 Location: Around the World Posts: 370	I'd wait for the AP. My feeling is that Overseas will become much easier to grab in the next few months as the general hype on sports' model will continue to fade. The overseas was always a plan B to RO and Nautis...

27 July 2022, 09:27 PM	#26
1William 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: North Carolina Watch: Rolex/Others Posts: 47,776	One on the wrist is worth several on the list. Unless the SA can tell you that you are allocated one and the time frame I would take the VC. I would take the VC anyway as I prefer it to the AP. Good luck and let us know how this plays out.

27 July 2022, 09:56 PM	#27
ts3 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: Europe Posts: 3,516	Do not settle for second fiddle.

27 July 2022, 09:59 PM	#28
brandrea 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Brian (TBone) Location: canada Watch: es make me smile Posts: 78,091	The VC won’t substitute your true watch desire. I’d hold out for the AP

28 July 2022, 06:56 AM	#30
arnage "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: NJ Posts: 324	I wear the VCO much more frequently than the RO. It feels a bit more "robust" for everyday use, and can be mounted on the rubber strap. It's also less likely to attract unwanted attention, which has become an unfortunate concern these days.

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