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Old 26 September 2022, 07:05 AM   #1
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For those that say Tudor is what Rolex used to be…

It’s not, period.

Yes, Rolex made and still makes tool watches. Yes, Tudor makes tool watches … and so does Victorinox, Squale, Hamilton, Tag Heuer, et al.

But…

Rolex has always been a luxury brand … always. Tudor is and always has been positioned as a near luxury brand.

Saying Tudor is what Rolex was, is the same as saying Tag Heuer is what Rolex was.

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Old 26 September 2022, 07:12 AM   #2
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For those that say Tudor is what Rolex used to be…

Ahh yes. Haven’t seen a good Tudor bash thread in a while. Wouldn’t be TRF without one after all
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Old 26 September 2022, 07:15 AM   #3
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Thought provoking, heavy hitting stuff right here.
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Old 26 September 2022, 12:12 PM   #4
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Old 26 September 2022, 07:20 AM   #5
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Old 26 September 2022, 07:29 AM   #6
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All I know is, I had Rolex In the 90’s & Noughties but the Tudor BB58 & the BB Pro I have now have better movements, bracelets / clasps than those watches did. As much as I like the several modern Rolex watches I have now, the Tudor’s feel closer to the mix of luxury & tool watches that Rolex used to be. My modern Rolex watches feel more like jewellery.
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Old 26 September 2022, 07:31 AM   #7
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Saying Tudor is what Rolex was, is the same as saying Tag Heuer is what Rolex was.
Tag Heuer haven't launched a succession of Rolex homage models. Tudor have.

Rolex have not always been a luxury brand. They made reliable, dependable, rugged tool watches. They do still, but there's more bling incorporated and all the tool watches have PM and sometimes jewel encrusted counterparts.

For a modern, no nonsense watch that gets back to the kind of functional and aesthetic fundamentals that Rolex used to major on, look no further than Tudor.
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Old 26 September 2022, 07:42 AM   #8
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1. And all-gold watch has always been a luxury watch.
2. There were once activities for which only a Rolex would do, making it a necessity.
3. The need for a Rolex aside, participating in those activities (deep sea diving, exploring, travel) has always been largely a luxury (at least when done recreationally).
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Old 26 September 2022, 07:49 AM   #9
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Old 26 September 2022, 08:20 AM   #10
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Lol.

Got a rose daytona, ss TOG, TT Bluesy and I can appreciate my BB58 for what it is…. A nice watch that takes wrist time away from all of those.
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Old 27 September 2022, 03:45 AM   #11
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Lol.

Got a rose daytona, ss TOG, TT Bluesy and I can appreciate my BB58 for what it is…. A nice watch that takes wrist time away from all of those.
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Old 26 September 2022, 08:24 AM   #12
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Rolex is a Rolex, Tudor is a Tudor. They are two separate brands and places in the market.
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Old 26 September 2022, 08:27 AM   #13
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Tudor is like Beyond Meat or Impossible Burger.
Rolex Is 100% REAL MEAT and I’m not vegan or vegetarian…
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Old 26 September 2022, 08:28 AM   #14
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Why are some rolex owners so insecure about Tudor?
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Old 26 September 2022, 10:51 AM   #15
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Why are some rolex owners so insecure about Tudor?
Because they don't even own a Rolex, let alone a Tudor.

They're 18 years old, and watch "who'd win? - Bear Vs Shark" videos.

They can't comprehend any choice that isn't made on monetary value.
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Old 26 September 2022, 10:54 AM   #16
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Darn, just when I thought I really liked Tudor.
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Old 26 September 2022, 11:58 AM   #17
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Because they don't even own a Rolex, let alone a Tudor.

They're 18 years old, and watch "who'd win? - Bear Vs Shark" videos.

They can't comprehend any choice that isn't made on monetary value.
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Old 26 September 2022, 10:56 AM   #18
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Why are some rolex owners so insecure about Tudor?
Good question. I have thought the same.
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Old 26 September 2022, 11:21 AM   #19
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Good question. I have thought the same.
There are lots of people who view Tudor as a “poor man’s Rolex,” including my brother in law. I have two responses:

1. I mean, yeah, I can’t afford to buy lots of Rolexes. But a Chrono and Ranger within a month is attainable. A Daytona is a bigger spend and I can’t get one at retail anyway. If one were offered, I would make it work. But I’m not holding my breath.

2. I mean, whatever, maybe I explain why Hans Wildorf started Tudor. But probably not. I love my Rolexes and I love my Tudors. I also love my $20 Casio Worldtimer. I love watches.
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Old 27 September 2022, 02:30 AM   #20
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I love watches.
This. I have had three Tudors over the years including a Chrono and Hydronaut from the Tiger era and a Heritage Chrono when they first came out. Although I don’t have them anymore I certainly enjoyed them as episodes in my love of mechanical watches going back to my teens.
I was at a large outdoor event over the weekend and of course I can’t help but notice what’s on peoples’ wrists. My coolest spot was a blue dial Seiko Turtle on what looked to be an aftermarket rubber strap that had a calendar printed on it, very cool. I was wearing my red OP41 on Saturday and BLRO on Sunday and got zero accolades from anyone.
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I love my Rolex watches and I really love my wife's Tudor S&G Chrono on Bund. Its ok to rant but wont change my mind. Thanks for the Thread OP...
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Old 26 September 2022, 08:35 AM   #22
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Having both Rolex and Tudor in my collection, I would say both are good solid brand with excellent built. Love them both. Just a matter of preference in design and how easy are you with your wallet.
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I have to disagree. The quality of the new Tudor line surpasses that of the 5 digit Rolex line in my opinion.
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It’s not, period.

Yes, Rolex made and still makes tool watches. Yes, Tudor makes tool watches … and so does Victorinox, Squale, Hamilton, Tag Heuer, et al.

But…

Rolex has always been a luxury brand … always. Tudor is and always has been positioned as a near luxury brand.

Saying Tudor is what Rolex was, is the same as saying Tag Heuer is what Rolex was.

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Old 26 September 2022, 09:29 AM   #25
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Rolex has always been a luxury brand … always. Tudor is and always has been positioned as a near luxury brand.
I don't think of my my BB58 as a Rolex but do see them having moved up into the luxury watch category. Once you move away from borrowing ETA and Sellita movements, it's up a notch. They do still borrow movements for some models but I suspect that will all change sooner or later.
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Old 26 September 2022, 09:39 AM   #26
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This topic again? Lol.
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Old 26 September 2022, 10:24 AM   #28
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I love both- for what they are. If we take an honest hard look at Tudor since the introduction of the BB58 it’s hard to not acknowledge Tudor is doing a lot right.
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Old 26 September 2022, 11:47 AM   #30
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May I say that the first statement of this post is totally subjective and then ridiculous ? I don’t see any luxury only when I look back on Rolex 4 or 5 digits clasps. My first tudor was purchased after 6 Rolexes in my collection, and from what I can see with a loupe or I can feel wearing and handle it, this is serious stuff. I agree with those mentioning Rolex now feel more like jewelry stuff, and I do like them this way no offense. But seriously… I can see in less than 5 years people will see Tudor totally differently.
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