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Old 18 October 2022, 07:47 AM   #1
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Rolex 1803 - guaranty typo question

Hi all. First time poster here. I've been on the hunt for an 1803 and came across an example I like. The watch comes with papers, but I noticed that the guaranty has a typo ("Date of ourchase" instead of "Date of purchase") - screenshot attached. Should this be a red flag, or an admissible error for early 1970s papers? Thanks so much for the help.
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Old 18 October 2022, 07:50 AM   #2
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Welcome.

Never seen this.

Can we get a pic of the entire document? Just black out anything personal.
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Old 18 October 2022, 08:11 AM   #3
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Thanks for the quick reply. Attached is the full guaranty photo I got from the seller (with serial number and jeweler redacted). Also attaching the chronometre attestation, again just with the serial number redacted.

Based on my online research (Rolex Haven), the documents resemble the Rolex formats from 1970, whereas the serial number tracks to 1972.
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Old 18 October 2022, 08:21 AM   #4
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*now with photos attached (sorry, still getting the hang of the forum and had to re-size).
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Old 18 October 2022, 08:23 AM   #5
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Several typos. My gut says it’s a fake replacement certificate but it doesn’t mean your watch is fake.
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Old 18 October 2022, 08:27 AM   #6
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That makes sense and my feeling as well. Thanks again for the quick responses and the gut-check. Great first experience as a poster!
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Old 18 October 2022, 08:51 AM   #7
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That makes sense and my feeling as well. Thanks again for the quick responses and the gut-check. Great first experience as a poster!
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Old 18 October 2022, 09:12 AM   #8
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I’ve a 1503 and 1823 with identical papers-in fact, nearly exact. Not stamped out with a misprinted p, but in every other minuscule detail.
In this specific era of Rolex manufacturing, the likelihood of forged papers was nearly zero.
Different time, different game.
Taking the case back off and verify movement as authentic much more critical. Is bracelet original. Older watches sometimes have been modified to unknowledgeable buyers….swapping out original movements and bracelets with counterfeit.
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I’ve a 1503 and 1823 with identical papers-in fact, nearly exact. Not stamped out with a misprinted p, but in every other minuscule detail.
In this specific era of Rolex manufacturing, the likelihood of forged papers was nearly zero.
Different time, different game.
Taking the case back off and verify movement as authentic much more critical. Is bracelet original. Older watches sometimes have been modified to unknowledgeable buyers….swapping out original movements and bracelets with counterfeit.

There’s a modern cottage industry remanufacturing vintage Rolex (and others) papers. The clear numerous spelling errors and syntax in the OPs are giveaways. I doubt Rolex would sign off on anything this bad.
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Old 18 October 2022, 10:01 AM   #10
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The watch was made in Genevra according to the paper…
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Old 18 October 2022, 01:02 PM   #11
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The watch was made in Genevra according to the paper…
Good catch! I was so put off by the "ourchase" that I missed all of the other typos.
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Good catch! I was so put off by the "ourchase" that I missed all of the other typos.
If you want to verify, perhaps send a pic to the "Jeweller" who originally sold the watch, to see whether or not there is a record of it?
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There is zero chance that the document is genuine?
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Hi all. First time poster here. I've been on the hunt for an 1803 and came across an example I like. The watch comes with papers, but I noticed that the guaranty has a typo ("Date of ourchase" instead of "Date of purchase") - screenshot attached. Should this be a red flag, or an admissible error for early 1970s papers? Thanks so much for the help.
The most important bit is the watch and not a outdated warranty paper as the so called papers are far more easier to fake than the watch. So never rely on these so called papers to prove authenticity of any watch, unless bought from a 100% reliable source.
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I’d run, not walk, from the sale. The papers are almost certainly a forgery. So do you trust buying an expensive watch from a forger, or someone associated with a forger?

If you’ve had a legitimate watchmaker open the watch and confirm an authentic movement you’re probably ok, but the seller is certainly sketchy.
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Would be a hard pass for me.
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"This form should be filled up at the time of purchase"

Do they really refer to service centers as "Service stations"?
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"Service stations listed at the and of this booklet".... too many strikes for me lol
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