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AlabamaLawyer1988 · 31 October 2022, 03:42 AM

Guys,

I have an opportunity to buy this piece for $10,000.

Does it pass the smell test?

DM

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AlabamaLawyer1988 · 31 October 2022, 03:43 AM

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MrGoat · 31 October 2022, 03:45 AM

It doesn’t pass the smell test for me. Quite a few issues and I’m not an expert.

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omar-rye · 31 October 2022, 03:46 AM

What’s with the cyclops magnification?

~JJ · 31 October 2022, 03:50 AM

Cyclops mag looks way off, insert and lower right lug looks terrible. Even if real, I would stay away.

AlabamaLawyer1988 · 31 October 2022, 03:53 AM

Didn’t feel real solid, no box and papers either. Too many flags. Thanks guys.

DM

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Macnavara · 31 October 2022, 04:58 AM

Looks terrible…..strange dial, knackered stretched bracelet,questionable bezel and as for the cyclopes id say definitely not a genuine crystal…..i say run away

aa909 · 31 October 2022, 05:32 AM

In addition to the above comments, The bracelet is super stretched. The gaps are very noticeable

dannyp · 31 October 2022, 06:20 AM

And the scratches around the case back make you wonder who was attempting to service.

HiBoost · 31 October 2022, 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by dannyp

And the scratches around the case back make you wonder who was attempting to service.

You don't use a crescent wrench to open yours? Don't tell me I've been doing it wrong...

Stan Cooper · 31 October 2022, 06:30 AM

The bezel insert is aftermarket. You can tell by the base of the "2s" in 22; they're in a straight line instead of curved concentric with the curve of the crystal.

Top photo is aftermarket; bottom is genuine Rolex.

Greenwich Mean Time · 31 October 2022, 06:55 AM

It could be the poor quality pic but the dial fonts, and date look off. Also pretty sure it's the wrong type of clasp for a Master II.

dannyp · 31 October 2022, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Greenwich Mean Time

It could be the poor quality pic but the dial fonts, and date look off. Also pretty sure it's the wrong type of clasp for a Master II.

The bracelet was my first thought, too. But more likely, IMO, that dial simply isn't original (even if genuine) and that watch is actually a GMT Master. Looking at the very bottom, it looks like a "Swiss Made" dial vs "Swiss-T<25" dial, as it's missing the hyphen. That dial would have been wayyyyyyyy after the demise of that style bracelet.

ROlesorusLEX · 31 October 2022, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Stan Cooper

The bezel insert is aftermarket. You can tell by the base of the "2s" in 22; they're in a straight line instead of curved concentric with the curve of the crystal.

Top photo is aftermarket; bottom is genuine Rolex.

That is great information, of which I was not aware. Thank you very much.

Scared me for a second about my 16710. Dared not look for a few seconds. But it passed!

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hutch300 · 31 October 2022, 07:54 AM

Glad you passed. Too many red flags as noted above to be sure. That bezel looks terrible... not even a good fake.

173rdabn · 31 October 2022, 08:27 AM

HMMMM Take a pass. Lots of issues for 10G.

PhilippeD · 31 October 2022, 09:21 AM

Good thing you passed. That bezel insert is the worst fake I've seen in a while.

AlabamaLawyer1988 · 31 October 2022, 10:16 AM

Guy said it was a 2006, but nah, it didn’t “feel” right… something seemed off to me, too. Many thanks to all who commented!

DM

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ROlesorusLEX · 31 October 2022, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by AlabamaLawyer1988

Guy said it was a 2006, but nah, it didn’t “feel” right… something seemed off to me, too. Many thanks to all who commented!

DM

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A 2006 would not have a lug holes case or that specific clasp, so yet another red flag.

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Apheaven · 8 November 2022, 12:46 PM

Just saw opened this…so many red flags.

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1665fan · 9 November 2022, 03:30 AM

Garbage

cht · 9 November 2022, 08:00 AM

Looks gen to me.
Specifically, like an older gmt pre 2000 (lug hole) with the original stretched flimsy hollow midlink bracelet with gen 501b endlinks, over polished crown guards, with a replaced newer superluminova dial and aftermarket crystal with poor date mag.

31 October 2022, 03:42 AM	#1
AlabamaLawyer1988 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2022 Location: Guess. Watch: 116610LN Posts: 475	Old Pepsi?? Guys, I have an opportunity to buy this piece for $10,000. Does it pass the smell test? DM Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ 116610LN; 126710BLRO; 126613LB; 79360N; 277200

31 October 2022, 03:43 AM	#2
AlabamaLawyer1988 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2022 Location: Guess. Watch: 116610LN Posts: 475	Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ 116610LN; 126710BLRO; 126613LB; 79360N; 277200

31 October 2022, 03:45 AM	#3
MrGoat 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2020 Real Name: Goat Location: Southwest Florida Watch: 16613 Posts: 5,477	Old Pepsi?? It doesn’t pass the smell test for me. Quite a few issues and I’m not an expert. Sent from my Apple privacy invasion product

31 October 2022, 03:53 AM	#6
AlabamaLawyer1988 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2022 Location: Guess. Watch: 116610LN Posts: 475	Didn’t feel real solid, no box and papers either. Too many flags. Thanks guys. DM Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ 116610LN; 126710BLRO; 126613LB; 79360N; 277200

31 October 2022, 04:58 AM	#7
Macnavara "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 2,355	Looks terrible…..strange dial, knackered stretched bracelet,questionable bezel and as for the cyclopes id say definitely not a genuine crystal…..i say run away __________________ Exp2 \| Exp1 \| BLNR \| SD43 \| DSSD \| 16710 \| Ak \| 116505 \| 116610 \| 16610 \| 16700 \| Yacht-Master \| 116710 LN \| 126710 BLRO mk1 & mk2 \| 116500LN \| 126610LN \| 126710 GRNR

31 October 2022, 03:46 AM	#4
omar-rye "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2020 Location: Underground Posts: 2,670	What’s with the cyclops magnification?

31 October 2022, 03:50 AM	#5
~JJ "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Chicago Watch: explorer Posts: 2,291	Cyclops mag looks way off, insert and lower right lug looks terrible. Even if real, I would stay away.

31 October 2022, 05:32 AM	#8
aa909 Banned Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: USA Posts: 530	In addition to the above comments, The bracelet is super stretched. The gaps are very noticeable

31 October 2022, 06:20 AM	#9
dannyp Banned Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: usa Posts: 6,765	And the scratches around the case back make you wonder who was attempting to service.

31 October 2022, 06:30 AM	#11
Stan Cooper 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2020 Real Name: Stan Cooper Location: Sonoma County, CA Watch: GMT-Master II Posts: 2,889	The bezel insert is aftermarket. You can tell by the base of the "2s" in 22; they're in a straight line instead of curved concentric with the curve of the crystal. Top photo is aftermarket; bottom is genuine Rolex. Attached Images __________________ ♛16710 GMT-Master II, ♛1915 Rolex WW1 Trench Watch, Zelos Thresher 500m GMT Meteorite, Zelos Swordfish 40 200m Ti Blood Moon Meteorite, Hamilton Pilot Chronograph, Ball Roadmaster Pilot GMT COSC Chronometer, Zelos Mako 300M Traveler GMT Meteorite, Seiko SSC813 quartz solar powered chronograph It's weird being the same age as old people. - Stan

31 October 2022, 06:55 AM	#12
Greenwich Mean Time "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: PNW Watch: 116710LN Posts: 467	It could be the poor quality pic but the dial fonts, and date look off. Also pretty sure it's the wrong type of clasp for a Master II. __________________ 116710LN Current 16610 Sold 1675 Gifted

31 October 2022, 07:54 AM	#15
hutch300 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Real Name: Jeff Location: PNW Posts: 1,482	Glad you passed. Too many red flags as noted above to be sure. That bezel looks terrible... not even a good fake.

31 October 2022, 08:27 AM	#16
173rdabn 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Real Name: George Location: Cape Cod Watch: 216570 Explorer II Posts: 2,422	HMMMM Take a pass. Lots of issues for 10G.

31 October 2022, 09:21 AM	#17
PhilippeD "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2021 Real Name: Philippe Location: Netherlands Posts: 388	Good thing you passed. That bezel insert is the worst fake I've seen in a while.

31 October 2022, 10:16 AM	#18
AlabamaLawyer1988 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2022 Location: Guess. Watch: 116610LN Posts: 475	Guy said it was a 2006, but nah, it didn’t “feel” right… something seemed off to me, too. Many thanks to all who commented! DM Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ 116610LN; 126710BLRO; 126613LB; 79360N; 277200

8 November 2022, 12:46 PM	#20
Apheaven "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: SF Posts: 589	Just saw opened this…so many red flags. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

9 November 2022, 03:30 AM	#21
1665fan "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: East coast Posts: 6,660	Garbage

9 November 2022, 08:00 AM	#22
cht 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Real Name: Chris Location: San antonio, TX Watch: 116610LV Posts: 2,143	Looks gen to me. Specifically, like an older gmt pre 2000 (lug hole) with the original stretched flimsy hollow midlink bracelet with gen 501b endlinks, over polished crown guards, with a replaced newer superluminova dial and aftermarket crystal with poor date mag.

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