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jenu · 27 July 2009, 06:57 AM

I have a water softner system in my home. Is there enough salt in this water to discolor or pit the steel?

macstiltskin · 27 July 2009, 06:59 AM

cody p · 27 July 2009, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by macstiltskin

you'll see it so much that eventually you'll grow immune to it.

sexner · 28 July 2009, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by cody p

you'll see it so much that eventually you'll grow immune to it.

How long does it take??

Mr Sandman · 27 July 2009, 07:02 AM

WTF

snow_rocks · 27 July 2009, 07:19 AM

The salt in the softener will play havoc on your Seamaster!

snow_rocks · 27 July 2009, 07:20 AM

Sorry about that. No it won't.

36475koz · 27 July 2009, 07:29 AM

Wow.

SeamasterGMT · 27 July 2009, 07:44 AM

Yes, it quite possibly will.

Move house immediately.

Also, move more inland as the wind will carry salt in the air from the sea which will also corrode your watch.

DRAWTOOL · 27 July 2009, 08:01 AM

Does this mean I gotta give back the cigar JJ gave me?

sea-dweller · 27 July 2009, 08:09 AM

If you have any doubt, rinse it with clean water after exposure.

Idle Swede · 27 July 2009, 08:14 AM

A couple of years ago while diving down in Key West I found a 150 Kg 18K yellow gold bar.

Unfortunately it had been laying on the ocean floor for 200 years so when I surfaced it only weighed 1 gram....

33JS · 27 July 2009, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by sea-dweller

If you have any doubt, rinse it with clean water after exposure.

You may all be surprised! SS will corrode very badly in sea water given the right conditions. I've seen many SS underwater components corrode away to nothing within a few days (I'm a Subsea Engineer) - but as I said, the conditions have to be right.....and it was only with 316 SS, not the 904 of the DSSD.

SO, always best to rinse a Stainless watch in fresh water after diving in salt water.

macstiltskin · 28 July 2009, 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by 33JS

You may all be surprised! SS will corrode very badly in sea water given the right conditions. I've seen many SS underwater components corrode away to nothing within a few days (I'm a Subsea Engineer) - but as I said, the conditions have to be right.....and it was only with 316 SS, not the 904 of the DSSD.

SO, always best to rinse a Stainless watch in fresh water after diving in salt water.

So he'll be safe doing the washing up then?

sexner · 28 July 2009, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by 33JS

You may all be surprised! SS will corrode very badly in sea water given the right conditions. I've seen many SS underwater components corrode away to nothing within a few days (I'm a Subsea Engineer) - but as I said, the conditions have to be right.....and it was only with 316 SS, not the 904 of the DSSD.

SO, always best to rinse a Stainless watch in fresh water after diving in salt water.

Then either take the engine and other related goodies producing magnetic fields in the salt water out of your Rolex or strap a big zinc diode to your a**e.

33JS · 28 July 2009, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by sexner

Then either take the engine and other related goodies producing magnetic fields in the salt water out of your Rolex or strap a big zinc diode to your a**e.

You've obviously got a good understanding of all the various corrosion mechanisms that can exist underwater...oh no, wait, you don't! But, thanks for the poistive reply anyway.

I said: 'under the right conditions' 316 will corrode quite badly, and it will. Particularly with Crevice Corrosion mechanisms - nothing to do with engines or indeed to be protected by anodes......

Still, the likliehood of visible damage to your watch is very unlikely unless it was immersed in salt water and KEPT in a damp environment without flushing with fresh water. If not flushed, the spaces (crevices) partucularly between the bracelet links can be susceptible to localise pitting or at least surface finish damage/tarnish/loss of brightness....

Always best to err on the side of caution.

Make your own decisions!

macstiltskin · 28 July 2009, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by 33JS

You've obviously got a good understanding of all the various corrosion mechanisms that can exist underwater...oh no, wait, you don't! But, thanks for the poistive reply anyway.

I said: 'under the right conditions' 316 will corrode quite badly, and it will. Particularly with Crevice Corrosion mechanisms - nothing to do with engines or indeed to be protected by anodes......

Still, the likliehood of visible damage to your watch is very unlikely unless it was immersed in salt water and KEPT in a damp environment without flushing with fresh water. If not flushed, the spaces (crevices) partucularly between the bracelet links can be susceptible to localise pitting or at least surface finish damage/tarnish/loss of brightness....

Always best to err on the side of caution.

Make your own decisions!

I'm still in limerick land, hope you don't mind !

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Some of us thought he was jesting

The answers he sought, to the cause of his fraught

Were as dumb as the original question

The Rolex now sits in it's box... Resting!
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rkb · 27 July 2009, 08:18 AM

The salt in the water softener is, to the best of my recollection, an ionic exchange and while the specific gravity my be slightly increased I highly doubt that the enough actual NaCl make it into the water to effect SS. However if your watch rusts off you arm and drops into the dirt, I was wrong.

Andad · 27 July 2009, 08:58 AM

I have a water softner system in my home. Is there enough salt in this water to discolor or pit the steel?

No mate, she'll be right.

Tools · 27 July 2009, 10:34 AM

Your Rolex will dry spot-free............

Harvey58 · 27 July 2009, 11:31 AM

Made to swim in pools and oceans....So I guess salt water does not hurt the watch!!!

Brushpup · 27 July 2009, 11:47 PM

Huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuughhhhhhhhhhhhh.

wuzzzer · 28 July 2009, 03:59 AM

Clay · 28 July 2009, 04:03 AM

Lolololololol

DadsWatch72 · 28 July 2009, 06:49 AM

904L Corrosion Resistance

Although originally developed for its resistance to sulphuric acid it also has a very high resistance to a wide range of environments. A PRE of 35 indicates that the material has good resistance to warm sea water and other high chloride environments. High nickel content results in a much better resistance to stress corrosion cracking than the standard austenitic grades. Copper adds resistance to sulphuric and other reducing acids, particularly in the very aggressive "mid concentration" range.

In most environments 904L has a corrosion performance intermediate between the standard austenitic grade 316L and the very highly alloyed 6% molybdenum and similar "super austenitic" grades.

In aggressive nitric acid 904L has less resistance than molybdenum-free grades such as 304L and 310L.

For maximum stress corrosion cracking resistance in critical environments the steel should be solution treated after cold work.

alcook · 28 July 2009, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by DadsWatch72

904L Corrosion Resistance

Although originally developed for its resistance to sulphuric acid it also has a very high resistance to a wide range of environments.

Next time I take a dip in a Sulphuric Acid bath, I know my watch will be safe... Phew!

Welshwatchman · 28 July 2009, 08:59 AM

Thanks for the thread.

Mike B · 28 July 2009, 09:13 AM

Oh boy, here we go again . . . . .

Watch Fan · 28 July 2009, 10:11 AM

The short answer is.......no it won't hurt your watch.

swsc · 28 July 2009, 10:27 AM

No, It`ll be fine

27 July 2009, 06:57 AM	#1
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rkb "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Real Name: Russell Location: Seattle Metro Watch: EXPORER II Posts: 605	The salt in the water softener is, to the best of my recollection, an ionic exchange and while the specific gravity my be slightly increased I highly doubt that the enough actual NaCl make it into the water to effect SS. However if your watch rusts off you arm and drops into the dirt, I was wrong. __________________

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snow_rocks Banned Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: Rick Location: At what TIME?!!! Watch: the SKY tonite! Posts: 3,225	Sorry about that. No it won't.

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SeamasterGMT Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: USA Watch: DeepSea Posts: 822	Yes, it quite possibly will. Move house immediately. Also, move more inland as the wind will carry salt in the air from the sea which will also corrode your watch.

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28 July 2009, 06:49 AM	#25
DadsWatch72 Banned Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: USA Watch: DRSD 1665 #3551XXX Posts: 2,401	904L Corrosion Resistance Although originally developed for its resistance to sulphuric acid it also has a very high resistance to a wide range of environments. A PRE of 35 indicates that the material has good resistance to warm sea water and other high chloride environments. High nickel content results in a much better resistance to stress corrosion cracking than the standard austenitic grades. Copper adds resistance to sulphuric and other reducing acids, particularly in the very aggressive "mid concentration" range. In most environments 904L has a corrosion performance intermediate between the standard austenitic grade 316L and the very highly alloyed 6% molybdenum and similar "super austenitic" grades. In aggressive nitric acid 904L has less resistance than molybdenum-free grades such as 304L and 310L. For maximum stress corrosion cracking resistance in critical environments the steel should be solution treated after cold work.

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Mike B "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Real Name: Mike Location: Gilbert, AZ Watch: DSSD, Omega SMP Posts: 3,055	Oh boy, here we go again . . . . .

28 July 2009, 10:11 AM	#29
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