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watchfreak207 · 16 December 2022, 06:48 PM

Hi, need some opinion on this dial. Came across this and not sure what to make of this dial. Serial 9m series. TIA

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watchfreak207 · 16 December 2022, 06:50 PM

Also under the loupe looks a bit brownish and “burnt”

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TuRo · 16 December 2022, 07:21 PM

The laquer is damaged/cracking due to damp/moisture. Fairly even but more so around white gold and date square. It looks pretty stable and will over time will I suspect turn various mottled browns.
Most will not like this, some will like it.
Either way a non-matte (post 8.5 million) dial is pretty cheap to buy ($1-2k) so if watch is cheap (or can bargained down to cheap) it would not switch me off. Has original hands btw too (darker towards centre from same moisture).

watchfreak207 · 16 December 2022, 11:35 PM

Hmm.. ok thank you. Seller is asking around USD9.5k. Only concern is if this dial is badly damaged and worth considering. Thanks.

Dan S · 17 December 2022, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by watchfreak207

Hmm.. ok thank you. Seller is asking around USD9.5k. Only concern is if this dial is badly damaged and worth considering. Thanks.

I think it's quite clear that the dial is damaged, the question is whether you like it or not.

swish77 · 17 December 2022, 01:37 AM

Why is this watch/dial even being considered? It's shot.

These tritium 16660s are not that tough to find in good condition. Just look for a better example. They're out there. It's not like you found this SD at a pawn shop for $1,000. Then, maybe. But the asking price is pretty close to what you'd pay for a good example.

Also, what's up with the case? The angle is not great in the photo, but it almost looks as if the crown guards have been polished away.

swaini3 · 17 December 2022, 02:01 AM

Agree with the above comments. Damaged dial, not a hard watch to find in good condition.

watchfreak207 · 17 December 2022, 08:12 AM

Thanks everyone for the advise and comments, really appreciate it.

wb55 · 17 December 2022, 08:14 AM

I don't see the point personally in a 666 with WG surrounds. If you're happy with WG surrounds just get a solid 16600.

indianmachine · 17 December 2022, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by wb55

I don't see the point personally in a 666 with WG surrounds. If you're happy with WG surrounds just get a solid 16600.

+1. $9.5k is way too much for that watch.

TuRo · 17 December 2022, 05:03 PM

$7.5|£7k or smidge lower ✓ would whet my interest - but not 9.5.

Filipão · 18 December 2022, 05:19 AM

That is a terrible dial and you've not shown us proper pictures from the rest of the watch.

TuRo · 18 December 2022, 05:56 AM

Just a little tip. If you ever find a watch with a dial like this with moisture ingress, always get the case back off and look take a good look at mid case/case back sealing and the calibre as rust etc can ruin it/be a bit costly, and whilst 1670/5 (and the later mvt) were just a $1000 a few years ago, they are as much as $2000+ nowdays. Usually they are fine, but sometimes a heap of issues ensue.

watchfreak207 · 18 December 2022, 08:41 AM

Thanks again for the comments and advice. I am in Tokyo and dropped by a dealer to look at the watch. It looked ok on the website but the dial damage wasn’t clearly shown until I saw it in person.

16 December 2022, 06:48 PM	#1
watchfreak207 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: Singapore Watch: ing You Posts: 185	Need opinion on 16660 sea dweller Hi, need some opinion on this dial. Came across this and not sure what to make of this dial. Serial 9m series. TIA Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

16 December 2022, 07:21 PM	#3
TuRo "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2022 Real Name: Paul Location: Cantabrigia - G.B Watch: ing the detectives Posts: 2,832	The laquer is damaged/cracking due to damp/moisture. Fairly even but more so around white gold and date square. It looks pretty stable and will over time will I suspect turn various mottled browns. Most will not like this, some will like it. Either way a non-matte (post 8.5 million) dial is pretty cheap to buy ($1-2k) so if watch is cheap (or can bargained down to cheap) it would not switch me off. Has original hands btw too (darker towards centre from same moisture). __________________ Thieves and fools and long travelled soldiers, A candid light exposes their homes. Human falter, people bellowed from their homes. And houses, there's fools and long reigning pharaohs. IT BITES - Yellow Christian

17 December 2022, 05:03 PM	#11
TuRo "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2022 Real Name: Paul Location: Cantabrigia - G.B Watch: ing the detectives Posts: 2,832	$7.5\|£7k or smidge lower ✓ would whet my interest - but not 9.5. __________________ Thieves and fools and long travelled soldiers, A candid light exposes their homes. Human falter, people bellowed from their homes. And houses, there's fools and long reigning pharaohs. IT BITES - Yellow Christian

18 December 2022, 05:56 AM	#13
TuRo "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2022 Real Name: Paul Location: Cantabrigia - G.B Watch: ing the detectives Posts: 2,832	Just a little tip. If you ever find a watch with a dial like this with moisture ingress, always get the case back off and look take a good look at mid case/case back sealing and the calibre as rust etc can ruin it/be a bit costly, and whilst 1670/5 (and the later mvt) were just a $1000 a few years ago, they are as much as $2000+ nowdays. Usually they are fine, but sometimes a heap of issues ensue. __________________ Thieves and fools and long travelled soldiers, A candid light exposes their homes. Human falter, people bellowed from their homes. And houses, there's fools and long reigning pharaohs. IT BITES - Yellow Christian

16 December 2022, 06:50 PM	#2
watchfreak207 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: Singapore Watch: ing You Posts: 185	Also under the loupe looks a bit brownish and “burnt” Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

16 December 2022, 11:35 PM	#4
watchfreak207 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: Singapore Watch: ing You Posts: 185	Hmm.. ok thank you. Seller is asking around USD9.5k. Only concern is if this dial is badly damaged and worth considering. Thanks.

17 December 2022, 01:37 AM	#6
swish77 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Aaron Location: CT/NYC Watch: ing the time! Posts: 6,999	Why is this watch/dial even being considered? It's shot. These tritium 16660s are not that tough to find in good condition. Just look for a better example. They're out there. It's not like you found this SD at a pawn shop for $1,000. Then, maybe. But the asking price is pretty close to what you'd pay for a good example. Also, what's up with the case? The angle is not great in the photo, but it almost looks as if the crown guards have been polished away.

17 December 2022, 02:01 AM	#7
swaini3 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Real Name: Mo Location: Dubai Watch: 1675 GMT, DRSD Posts: 1,459	Agree with the above comments. Damaged dial, not a hard watch to find in good condition.

17 December 2022, 08:12 AM	#8
watchfreak207 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: Singapore Watch: ing You Posts: 185	Thanks everyone for the advise and comments, really appreciate it.

17 December 2022, 08:14 AM	#9
wb55 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: - Posts: 988	I don't see the point personally in a 666 with WG surrounds. If you're happy with WG surrounds just get a solid 16600.

18 December 2022, 05:19 AM	#12
Filipão "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2018 Real Name: Filipe Location: Lisbon & Wadesdah Watch: Never too many Posts: 1,898	That is a terrible dial and you've not shown us proper pictures from the rest of the watch.

18 December 2022, 08:41 AM	#14
watchfreak207 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: Singapore Watch: ing You Posts: 185	Thanks again for the comments and advice. I am in Tokyo and dropped by a dealer to look at the watch. It looked ok on the website but the dial damage wasn’t clearly shown until I saw it in person.

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