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JPCC · 8 April 2023, 07:28 PM

Assuming you’re in the fortunate position to be an AP VIP, would you pick an Openwork or perpetual calendar? 15407st or 26574st?

Obviously both are the pinnacle of AP collecting, and are just as difficult to obtain.

Openwork strikes me as something uniquely AP (no other brand can quite match up). And the perpetual calendar oozes charm and ingrained in AP tradition.

RolexBHR · 8 April 2023, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by JPCC

Assuming you’re in the fortunate position to be an AP VIP, would you pick an Openwork or perpetual calendar? 15407st or 26574st?

Obviously both are the pinnacle of AP collecting, and are just as difficult to obtain.

Openwork strikes me as something uniquely AP (no other brand can quite match up). And the perpetual calendar oozes charm and ingrained in AP tradition.

Open works for me, but if its the PC ultra thin then thats something else.

eiesh · 8 April 2023, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by JPCC

Assuming you’re in the fortunate position to be an AP VIP, would you pick an Openwork or perpetual calendar? 15407st or 26574st?

Obviously both are the pinnacle of AP collecting, and are just as difficult to obtain.

Openwork strikes me as something uniquely AP (no other brand can quite match up). And the perpetual calendar oozes charm and ingrained in AP tradition.

How about 15416CE vs 26585CE ?

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Tentoedtom · 8 April 2023, 10:15 PM

Open work. Perpetual is for the leather strap.

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DonLee · 8 April 2023, 10:26 PM

Openwork.

AEV · 8 April 2023, 10:37 PM

15407st is a work of art even through it has movement of 37mm watch fitted in 41mm.
QP is close second.

GB-man · 8 April 2023, 11:49 PM

Why choose when there’s the perpetual open work lol

I’d be equally happy with either. Would take the now disco titanium perpetual over the steel OW.

TopherMins · 9 April 2023, 12:10 AM

I recently received the 15407 from the boutique and nothing compares. It has to be seen in person as pictures do not do it justice to how special it is.

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gretch6364 · 9 April 2023, 12:36 AM

If you can’t decide between the two, I would go with the cheaper openwork.

dcash0615 · 9 April 2023, 02:21 AM

Openwork

mickyd329 · 9 April 2023, 02:22 AM

I have the 26574st and it's an amazing piece, but I would pick the openwork in this case. The 15416ce in particular. It's just special.

APhound · 9 April 2023, 04:22 AM

Tough one! I’ve never seen the openwerk but the perp is an amazing dial and feels very special to me

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AEV · 9 April 2023, 04:33 PM

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Tough one! I’ve never seen the openwerk but the perp is an amazing dial and feels very special to me

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This is pure perfection. When compared to Overseas or Nautilus, the RO is so much easier to read & the dial is less clumsy despite having 4 iso 3 subdials.
And how brilliant is to set up the week indices on the outer part of the dial.

Thanks for the photo!

gusmac · 9 April 2023, 04:36 AM

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Originally Posted by JPCC

Assuming you’re in the fortunate position to be an AP VIP, would you pick an Openwork or perpetual calendar? 15407st or 26574st?

Obviously both are the pinnacle of AP collecting, and are just as difficult to obtain.

Openwork strikes me as something uniquely AP (no other brand can quite match up). And the perpetual calendar oozes charm and ingrained in AP tradition.

Really tough question this one. I am in the very fortunate position of having both. I'm not honestly sure that even if you put a gun to my head I could chose...perhaps right now, and perhaps simply because I have the open work out from the safe and its seeing some wrist time currently, I'd have to go with the open work. As others have said, the level of finishing on this and the clarity of the dial leaves other skeleton watches trailing in its wake IMHO. Of course I'm biased. I am not sure there is a bad choice here! whichever you get the chance of, grab it as both are fantastic watches! Good luck

Nav01L · 9 April 2023, 05:49 AM

I love the PC, so would definitely go for that. Then again, my AP house does not even answer my texts…

grahammackay86 · 9 April 2023, 06:12 AM

Both amazing watches but has to be openworked for me.

Palex · 9 April 2023, 04:42 PM

AP is so much about QP, also in the past. I would choose that. But both are great!

macrowatch · 10 April 2023, 02:05 AM

I personally went PQ route, but for everyone else I think Openworked is a better iconic choice.

Also, FWIW as a point of consideration, time consistently can be way off on the PQ, very wide tolerance. So you may find that to be annoying.

Congrats in advance!

Reign · 10 April 2023, 03:26 AM

Openworked unless the QP is openworked too.

The double balance is very alive as a watch and a better value entry compared to a tourbillon. There’s just a lot more to marvel at compared to a pretty static QP

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TheHolyLuck · 10 April 2023, 04:11 AM

With the openworked you have motions. QP static dial is for me less interesting

VogelPhoenix · 10 April 2023, 05:35 AM

Late to the party, but I vote Openworked as well. Best skeletonized movement anywhere, ever, IMO (even if it is a bit small for the 41mm case).

Edit: maybe the discontinued salmon dial Ti QP would cause second thoughts

WatchEater666 · 10 April 2023, 05:50 AM

Openworked, not even close IMO.

Vince_76 · 10 April 2023, 05:57 AM

Best openworked in the game. Easy choice

scottywein · 10 April 2023, 07:11 AM

Openworked

gretch6364 · 10 April 2023, 09:13 AM

Nice to see the openwork has the higher demand. Leave some QPs for me ;-)

edo · 10 April 2023, 01:02 PM

QP is my favorite complication but AP openworked watches are state of art products. Basically the only OP ever done by AP that I don't like is the newest Jumbo OP...

Harry_S · 10 April 2023, 01:27 PM

Openwork + Ceramic + Perpetual Calendar = Perfection

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7sins · 10 April 2023, 02:09 PM

I would take this 26615 QP anyday over the openwork ex the QP openwork. I wore an openwork for a few days and was underwhelmed, perhaps my expectations were too high.

AshAP · 11 April 2023, 05:07 AM

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I would take this 26615 QP anyday over the openwork ex the QP openwork. I wore an openwork for a few days and was underwhelmed, perhaps my expectations were too high.

The salmon dial ti is one of my favourite APs and the openworked QP is my personal grail.

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Reign · 11 April 2023, 06:20 AM

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The salmon dial ti is one of my favourite APs and the openworked QP is my personal grail.

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Agree, love the Ti salmon and would love to add one but seems unlikely.

That said, if we’re comparing openworked qp ceramic to ceramic double balance, I’d go openworked QP - it’s an absolute classic and the pinnacle of the modern collection imo

8 April 2023, 07:28 PM	#1
JPCC "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2023 Location: Earth Posts: 14	Openwork or Perpetual Calendar Assuming you’re in the fortunate position to be an AP VIP, would you pick an Openwork or perpetual calendar? 15407st or 26574st? Obviously both are the pinnacle of AP collecting, and are just as difficult to obtain. Openwork strikes me as something uniquely AP (no other brand can quite match up). And the perpetual calendar oozes charm and ingrained in AP tradition.

8 April 2023, 11:49 PM	#7
GB-man 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: USA Watch: addiction issues Posts: 37,355	Why choose when there’s the perpetual open work lol I’d be equally happy with either. Would take the now disco titanium perpetual over the steel OW. __________________

9 April 2023, 12:10 AM	#8
TopherMins "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: FL Watch: AP, RM Posts: 273	Openwork or Perpetual Calendar I recently received the 15407 from the boutique and nothing compares. It has to be seen in person as pictures do not do it justice to how special it is. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

9 April 2023, 02:21 AM	#10
dcash0615 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Real Name: Dave Location: CA Watch: es Posts: 4,395	Openwork __________________ Instagram @dcash0615 2FA security active

9 April 2023, 02:22 AM	#11
mickyd329 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Real Name: Mike Location: Socal Watch: AP/PP/Rolex Posts: 2,052	I have the 26574st and it's an amazing piece, but I would pick the openwork in this case. The 15416ce in particular. It's just special. __________________ PP 5205G-013/ PP 5212A / AP 15416CE /26574 st QP/ AP 50th 16202st /AP 15500st Black / AP 26405CE / AP 77350CE / AP 15551st / AP 67540sk / Rolex 116500 Panda / Rolex 126710 BLRO / Rolex 126610LV Green / Rolex 16570 Black/ Rolex 116300 Blue / Rolex 126710 BLNR / Rolex 126710 GRNR

8 April 2023, 10:15 PM	#4
Tentoedtom "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2021 Location: N/A Posts: 40	Open work. Perpetual is for the leather strap. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

8 April 2023, 10:26 PM	#5
DonLee "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2021 Location: HK Posts: 1,065	Openwork.

8 April 2023, 10:37 PM	#6
AEV "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2020 Location: Europe Watch: AP & Rolex Posts: 1,525	15407st is a work of art even through it has movement of 37mm watch fitted in 41mm. QP is close second.

9 April 2023, 12:36 AM	#9
gretch6364 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Aspen Posts: 859	If you can’t decide between the two, I would go with the cheaper openwork.

9 April 2023, 04:22 AM	#12
APhound "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2019 Location: USA Posts: 2,398	Tough one! I’ve never seen the openwerk but the perp is an amazing dial and feels very special to me Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

9 April 2023, 05:49 AM	#15
Nav01L "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Real Name: Fred Location: Zurich Posts: 2,697	I love the PC, so would definitely go for that. Then again, my AP house does not even answer my texts… __________________ Greetings from Switzerland Remember, the dignity you surrender at your AD‘s doorstep will never be recovered by wearing the watch he may get you.

9 April 2023, 06:12 AM	#16
grahammackay86 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: UK Watch: Patek/ AP/ Rolex Posts: 291	Both amazing watches but has to be openworked for me.

9 April 2023, 04:42 PM	#17
Palex "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2020 Location: --- Posts: 703	AP is so much about QP, also in the past. I would choose that. But both are great!

10 April 2023, 02:05 AM	#18
macrowatch "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: HK Posts: 4,366	I personally went PQ route, but for everyone else I think Openworked is a better iconic choice. Also, FWIW as a point of consideration, time consistently can be way off on the PQ, very wide tolerance. So you may find that to be annoying. Congrats in advance!

10 April 2023, 03:26 AM	#19
Reign "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: USA Posts: 1,206	Openworked unless the QP is openworked too. The double balance is very alive as a watch and a better value entry compared to a tourbillon. There’s just a lot more to marvel at compared to a pretty static QP Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

10 April 2023, 04:11 AM	#20
TheHolyLuck "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2022 Location: Europa Posts: 216	With the openworked you have motions. QP static dial is for me less interesting

10 April 2023, 05:35 AM	#21
VogelPhoenix "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: Taiwan Posts: 3,866	Late to the party, but I vote Openworked as well. Best skeletonized movement anywhere, ever, IMO (even if it is a bit small for the 41mm case). Edit: maybe the discontinued salmon dial Ti QP would cause second thoughts __________________ AP 15500ST Grey // 26237ST Beast // 26331ST Panda // 15450ST Blue // 77350CE Bucci // 26240CE 50th // 15407ST // 26715.ST.ZZ \|\| Rolex 116520 White // 116710 BLNR // 126200 Blue \|\| Omega Seamaster NTTD // Speedy Tokyo LE "Rising Sun" // Speedy cal. 321 "Ed White" A timeless classic - Winding, ticking, faithful time - Golden crown of trust

10 April 2023, 05:50 AM	#22
WatchEater666 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: Vancouver Posts: 1,983	Openworked, not even close IMO.

10 April 2023, 05:57 AM	#23
Vince_76 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2020 Location: Orange County Posts: 1,911	Best openworked in the game. Easy choice __________________ AP 15500ST (Silver) // ♛ Rolex 126334 (Blue Roman, Fluted, Jubilee) // Ω Moonswatch (Mission to Pluto) // G-Shock GA2100-1A1

10 April 2023, 07:11 AM	#24
scottywein "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: NYC Posts: 141	Openworked

10 April 2023, 09:13 AM	#25
gretch6364 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Aspen Posts: 859	Nice to see the openwork has the higher demand. Leave some QPs for me ;-)

10 April 2023, 01:02 PM	#26
edo "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Sarajevo Posts: 1,929	QP is my favorite complication but AP openworked watches are state of art products. Basically the only OP ever done by AP that I don't like is the newest Jumbo OP...

10 April 2023, 01:27 PM	#27
Harry_S "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: London Posts: 189	Openwork + Ceramic + Perpetual Calendar = Perfection https://www.audemarspiguet.com/com/e...1225CE.01.html

10 April 2023, 02:09 PM	#28
7sins "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Real Name: B. Location: Beverly Hills, CA Posts: 3,622	I would take this 26615 QP anyday over the openwork ex the QP openwork. I wore an openwork for a few days and was underwhelmed, perhaps my expectations were too high. __________________ Richard Mille RG RM030 \|\| Richard Mille RM72ti \|\| AP 26240 50TH Green Royal Oak Chrono \|\| AP Royal Oak Off Shore Gulf Blue 26238 \|\| AP Royal Oak Blue JUMBO SS 15202ST \|\| AP ROO Diver Green 15720ST \|\| ♕ Rolex Platinum Daytona Diamond 116506 \|\| Cartier Santos

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