Deepsea challenge anyone? Advice/sell?

[ParkerLewis76]

Hello all!

Being a 6'11", 270 lb. guy with a 8.5" wrist, the Deepsea Challenge in all of it's 50mm is in my sights to be my very first Rolex!

For all of you out there, what are your thoughts on where pricing will go on it now that Rolex didn't discontinue it and more are coming off the line?

I passed on one here in Los Angeles the other day for 34K that sold yesterday, and a few others I have heard about selling in the last week or 2 have sold for around 34.5K.

I don't want to buy on the downward trend, as these large watches (48mm+) most always end up being available down the line for less than retail, but I also don't know where the market might go, hence me writing this.

Have read a lot of mixed reviews and mixed forecasts on it.

Any advice or inside track info would be greatly appreciated!

And if anyone out there is considering selling one, let's talk!

Thanks all!

PL

[interestedwatcher]

Go to an AD, try one on, get on list - repeat for like three or four ADs and you'll have it within a year I imagine.

[Kevin of Larchmont]

Yeah, why not just take the steps and buy one new, it’s not like it’s gonna be a real fast mover.

[Chadridv]

Originally Posted by Kevin of Larchmont

Yeah, why not just take the steps and buy one new, it’s not like it’s gonna be a real fast mover.

It won't be a fast mover, however I seriously doubt they're pumping them out like a regular submariner. They're probably producing a fraction of them compared to they're traditional sports line.

My advice (for right or wrong) is to buy one for the best reasonable market price, while still inquiring at as many ADs as you can.

If you get the call, fantastic! Sell the grey market piece and enjoy the one you bought directly. I have done this countless times on "hard to get" watches and it's almost always worked out for me in many ways.

Most importantly, I'm enjoying my new watch almost immediately and in most cases for years before it would have been even remotely possible to receive my watch from an AD.

I'm still waiting on SOOOOO many watches, most of which have now been discontinued with prices so high I could barely or NOT afford them anymore at all.

If I listened to all the TRF "AD ONLY" experts around here I wouldn't have bought my black dial Daytona in 2017 for $16.5k. I wouldn't have bought my white dial Daytona in 2020 for $24k, etc. And I'm not making these statements to boast about appreciation or any of that investment bullshit, I say it because you can easily get priced out of these things, they can discontinue models, ADs lose partnerships, sales reps quit. Some have even died.

Life is short. Get the watch you want now. my 2 cents

[ParkerLewis76]

Brilliant play CHADRIDY! Hedging the AD bet, I like it! Now to see what dealer I can shake down for the best price! Having FOMO on the one Anthony Farrer (Timepiece Gentleman) had in his showroom last week which is the one I saw and passed on for 34K, on to the next!

This place is amazing, bravo to everyone who makes this community what it is!

[ParkerLewis76]

Originally Posted by Chadridv

It won't be a fast mover, however I seriously doubt they're pumping them out like a regular submariner. They're probably producing a fraction of them compared to they're traditional sports line.

My advice (for right or wrong) is to buy one for the best reasonable market price, while still inquiring at as many ADs as you can.

If you get the call, fantastic! Sell the grey market piece and enjoy the one you bought directly. I have done this countless times on "hard to get" watches and it's almost always worked out for me in many ways.

Most importantly, I'm enjoying my new watch almost immediately and in most cases for years before it would have been even remotely possible to receive my watch from an AD.

I'm still waiting on SOOOOO many watches, most of which have now been discontinued with prices so high I could barely or NOT afford them anymore at all.

If I listened to all the TRF "AD ONLY" experts around here I wouldn't have bought my black dial Daytona in 2017 for $16.5k. I wouldn't have bought my white dial Daytona in 2020 for $24k, etc. And I'm not making these statements to boast about appreciation or any of that investment bullshit, I say it because you can easily get priced out of these things, they can discontinue models, ADs lose partnerships, sales reps quit. Some have even died.

Life is short. Get the watch you want now. my 2 cents

Brilliant play! Hedging the AD bet, I like it! Now to see what dealer I can shake down for the best price! Having FOMO on the one Anthony Farrer (Timepiece Gentleman) had in his showroom last week which is the one I saw and passed on for 34K, on to the next!

This place is amazing, bravo to everyone who makes this community what it is!

[gtnator]

Originally Posted by Chadridv

It won't be a fast mover, however I seriously doubt they're pumping them out like a regular submariner. They're probably producing a fraction of them compared to they're traditional sports line.

My advice (for right or wrong) is to buy one for the best reasonable market price, while still inquiring at as many ADs as you can.

If you get the call, fantastic! Sell the grey market piece and enjoy the one you bought directly. I have done this countless times on "hard to get" watches and it's almost always worked out for me in many ways.

Most importantly, I'm enjoying my new watch almost immediately and in most cases for years before it would have been even remotely possible to receive my watch from an AD.

I'm still waiting on SOOOOO many watches, most of which have now been discontinued with prices so high I could barely or NOT afford them anymore at all.

If I listened to all the TRF "AD ONLY" experts around here I wouldn't have bought my black dial Daytona in 2017 for $16.5k. I wouldn't have bought my white dial Daytona in 2020 for $24k, etc. And I'm not making these statements to boast about appreciation or any of that investment bullshit, I say it because you can easily get priced out of these things, they can discontinue models, ADs lose partnerships, sales reps quit. Some have even died.

Life is short. Get the watch you want now. my 2 cents

I like that!


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[alphadweller]

I doubt it's going to be hard to source from an AD. Will depend on how long it sits and how much they need to sell other brands and jewlery before they let you have it.

[Carguy87]

Hi Parker congrats on making your first post I’m with the rest I would try to reach out to some AD’s; I was making conversation with the manager at mine after the release and he said it had been a week and they didn’t even have one call for it, so due to the size and price point I think getting one at MSRP shouldn’t be impossible. Best of luck!!

[samson66]

Don't pay extra for this one. Very limited market for that watch. I also really suggest you try it on before buying. I think the DSSD might work better for you in the end. Try both models first.

[ParkerLewis76]

Originally Posted by samson66

Don't pay extra for this one. Very limited market for that watch. I also really suggest you try it on before buying. I think the DSSD might work better for you in the end. Try both models first.

DSSD means?

[slus]

Originally Posted by ParkerLewis76

DSSD means?

DeepSea Sea Dweller. My favorite Rolex, I am 6'4 210 with a 7.25 wrist. I think you need the Challenge!

[ParkerLewis76]

I should have taken a picture of me trying the James Cameron on, it looked like a 36mm, hence why I have never been able to wear a Rolex. My wrist is wider than thicker so eats up a case like you would believe! I have a few ROO 48mm which fit nicely, as even the ROO 44mm looks off, so hence my intrigue with the DSC! I tried one on last week and it fit great, the thickness was just something to get used to, nearly 2x a thick than even a ROO it looked like!

[slus]

Originally Posted by ParkerLewis76

I should have taken a picture of me trying the James Cameron on, it looked like a 36mm, hence why I have never been able to wear a Rolex. My wrist is wider than thicker so eats up a case like you would believe! I have a few ROO 48mm which fit nicely, as even the ROO 44mm looks off, so hence my intrigue with the DSC! I tried one on last week and it fit great, the thickness was just something to get used to, nearly 2x a thick than even a ROO it looked like!

I can relate. A 40mm Sub looked and felt like a women's model on me. It actually looked good in wrist shots since my wrist is not huge, but with the rest of me included (so actual life that I see every day, not internet forum photos) it seemed too small.

Forum opinions got to me so much that I flaked out on the DSSD and bought the Submariner first. Before I went back to the DeepSea and due to my brain being wired somewhat incorrectly, I calculated out the proportions of a 44mm DeepSea on me vs a 40mm Submariner on the average US male height of 5'9" From what I remember the diameter increase was justified but the thickness was not. BSA might be a more accurate comparison but due to being tall and thin, those results were excluded.

Buy the Challenge, we all want to see it on someone worthy of wearing one

[brandrea]

Originally Posted by samson66

Don't pay extra for this one. Very limited market for that watch. I also really suggest you try it on before buying. I think the DSSD might work better for you in the end. Try both models first.

Agree 100% with my friend Mike here ^^^

[Chadridv]

Originally Posted by samson66

Don't pay extra for this one. Very limited market for that watch. I also really suggest you try it on before buying. I think the DSSD might work better for you in the end. Try both models first.

my man is 6'11", 270! I don't know anyone else that this watch could have possibly been made for

That said, I do agree lol. Despite everything I said above, see if you can try it on somehow. Make sure you love it

[samson66]

Originally Posted by Chadridv

my man is 6'11", 270! I don't know anyone else that this watch could have possibly been made for

That said, I do agree lol. Despite everything I said above, see if you can try it on somehow. Make sure you love it

Ha! No doubt he could pull it off. But the DSC is a different animal. I really think the 44mm DeepSea would work perfectly for you. The DSC is just an enormous hockey puck of a watch. Even on a big guy it's a BIG watch.

Check out the James Cameron DSSD before you buy anything. $10 says it's the one you end up with

[Chadridv]

Originally Posted by samson66

Ha! No doubt he could pull it off. But the DSC is a different animal. I really think the 44mm DeepSea would work perfectly for you. The DSC is just an enormous hockey puck of a watch. Even on a big guy it's a BIG watch.

Check out the James Cameron DSSD before you buy anything. $10 says it's the one you end up with

you may very well be right! Looks like he did see it in person at the Timepiece Gentleman Shop.

The 50mm looks nuts IMO haha, but the heart wants what the heart wants.

OP I do agree make sure its the one you want and DEFINITELY check out the DSSD Blue. You should be able to try it on at any AD>

[Devildog]

Originally Posted by samson66

Ha! No doubt he could pull it off. But the DSC is a different animal. I really think the 44mm DeepSea would work perfectly for you. The DSC is just an enormous hockey puck of a watch. Even on a big guy it's a BIG watch.

Check out the James Cameron DSSD before you buy anything. $10 says it's the one you end up with

I'll take that bet Mike

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[fskywalker]

Originally Posted by samson66

Don't pay extra for this one. Very limited market for that watch. I also really suggest you try it on before buying. I think the DSSD might work better for you in the end. Try both models first.

+1


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[1William]

Welcome. Should not be a difficult watch to source from an AD at retail. Get on some lists and go visit some AD's. Good luck.

[travisb]

I’d go through an AD. A very small market for that watch due to it’s size but it sounds great for you. I’ll look forward to seeing how it looks on you!


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[tifosi]

For sure go through an AD. There isn't a very large demand for this watch and I'm sure you can get one at retail. Not saying it won't decline in value from there, but at least you get a fighting chance.

[ParkerLewis76]

COPY THAT! Appreciate everyone's unanimous decision!

1 other question is I read that ADs were instructed by Rolex not to sell the watch to anyone who hasn't purchased at least 2 watches from an AD before?

[slus]

Originally Posted by ParkerLewis76

1 other question is I read that ADs were instructed by Rolex not to sell the watch to anyone who hasn't purchased at least 2 watches from an AD before?

Highly doubtful. I think any AD would love to sell you one, when they get one in stock, probably won't be huge numbers of these delivered but very few possess the wrist and wallet fortitude for this model. You'll get one eventually.

[Lesnerelli23]

Originally Posted by ParkerLewis76

COPY THAT! Appreciate everyone's unanimous decision!

1 other question is I read that ADs were instructed by Rolex not to sell the watch to anyone who hasn't purchased at least 2 watches from an AD before?

I can’t imagine why this would be true… making a low interest watch hard to get seems counterintuitive. I could be wrong though.

I think going in, as others said, is a good bet for you. I feel like with your size, and interest, they’ll be excited to put one on you. That watch is made for you!!!


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[Kevin of Larchmont]

Originally Posted by ParkerLewis76

COPY THAT! Appreciate everyone's unanimous decision!

1 other question is I read that ADs were instructed by Rolex not to sell the watch to anyone who hasn't purchased at least 2 watches from an AD before?

Well friend, if you read it on the internet it’s definitely true.

Welcome to the forum.

[ParkerLewis76]

Originally Posted by Kevin of Larchmont

Well friend, if you read it on the internet it’s definitely true.

Welcome to the forum.

Ha! Fair enough!

[Harry-57]

Originally Posted by ParkerLewis76

I read that ADs were instructed by Rolex not to sell the watch to anyone who hasn't purchased at least 2 watches from an AD before?

The AD can sell any watch to anyone they like. They could give it away if they wanted to, although I wouldn't hold your breath on that happening!

[CFR]

Before you get the DSC, rule out the Omega Ultra Deep, specifically the steel model with the dark blue dial on a steel bracelet. It's a nice watch too.