Bought my first Vintage Grand Seiko 5646-7010 with unknown (to me) dial design

[squashkid]

I am new to this forum. I recently bought my first vintage Grand Seiko. I am not a collector, I just liked the design of this watch a lot, and felt I want to own it. The model is a 5646-7010 from the early 70's and it works and looks great.

I knew before buying it, that the dial is uncommon - at least I did not see anything similar before. The seller could not tell me if it is original or a redial. That's why I am turning to this forum, maybe someone knows if there were models sold with this brushed metal dial? Or if it's an aftermarket replacement?

[1William]

Welcome. Nice watch.

[lanteanflux]

This is a redial 100%


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[RW16610]

Welcome to the forum! Collecting Seiko or Grand Seiko watches gives you so many options, and the search can be fun to an extent also.

That's a great piece you recently obtained, congrats! What matters most is that you're happy with the purchase and you'll certainly be able to wear and enjoy this piece.

[thegrandseikoguy]

Originally Posted by RW16610

Welcome to the forum! Collecting Seiko or Grand Seiko watches gives you so many options, and the search can be fun to an extent also.

That's a great piece you recently obtained, congrats! What matters most is that you're happy with the purchase and you'll certainly be able to wear and enjoy this piece.

Whilst yes, what matters most is that the owner of a watch is happy with their purchase, how is it a service to him, or the wider community, to state that the watch in question is "a great piece"?

We have had two instances recently where collectors were duped into buying vintage Grand Seiko watches with redone dials.

In both instances, the sellers of those watches were unable or unwilling to highlight this objectively provable fact.

In both instances, you have taken the time to praise these pieces and congratulate the collectors for purchasing them.

What is your motivation for doing so? Do you honestly think that when someone learns that the watch they have bought is not what they thought it was, telling them the watch is "great" is in anyway helpful, or useful - to them, or to the community?

Are you just trying to make them feel OK about their mistakes? I'm assuming we're all adults here - I'm not aware of any 7 year old kids who collect vintage watches and post about them on this forum.

They may well still be happy about their purchases (and one would hope they were), but that doesn't alter the objective quality of the watches concerned.

I also wonder, when you use an adjective like "great" to refer to completely reconditioned, repolished watches with fake dials like these, how you would describe something that was original and in basically "as new" condition.

Would it be "really great"?

[squashkid]

Originally Posted by thegrandseikoguy

Are you just trying to make them feel OK about their mistakes? I'm assuming we're all adults here - I'm not aware of any 7 year old kids who collect vintage watches and post about them on this forum.

Let me just add, that it was not a mistake. I knew before buying that the status of the dial is unknown (maybe the seller knew, maybe not). Nevertheless I bought it because I like it. I could have turned to the forum before my purchase, but for buying the watch the info was not important to me.

Like you write in your first sentence, it matters most that the buyer is happy. And just in case I sell the watch in the future or gift it someone else, I will make sure to add the info that it is a redial, so others can be fully happy as well.

[Rebel]

Congrats.