Mom Tasered Repeatedly in Front of Kids, Arrested (Video)

[Ashtony]

Mom gets tasered next to her car with the kids in the car. This happened in NY sometime this year.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Dik-mgCDcg

[Lion]

So where is this town in New York because I sure plan on staying away from there!!!

[Gaijin]

Just a thought, do what you are told. The street is not the place to argue the situation. You argue your case in the courts.


Comply with Officers on the street. Not the place to argue and disobey. In my mind as a retired officer everybody I encounter is armed until I prove differently. If you comply you will be treated with courtesy and respect. With the advent of the taser you don't end up going hands on with people and wrestling. Officers and suspects are more likely to be injured in a wrestling match.

Also remember if you do wrestle with someone there is always a gun there. The Officer's. I know. I had a lengthy fight with a 130 pound guy who tried to take my firearm out of my holster. All the while telling me repeatedly "I don't want to kill you, but I will if I have to." This guy for about 5 minutes (felt like an hour) till my cover arrived gave me all I could handle. He nearly killed me. I still have nightmares over it. This was all over a $25 warrant and him not wanting to go to jail over it. I am 6 foot and 190 pounds and well trained. He was all over me. I was a bloody mess after the fight and we both ended up in the hospital. A taser would have ended the fight before it started.

I will deploy the taser 10 out of 10 times to avoid going to the ground with some person who is pissed off because she is getting a ticket. Remember by her own admission the Officer told her she was under arrest. He was not about to unarrest her. A person leaving thier vehicle into traffic is an Officer and citizen safety concern. Who cares if her kids were there. Great example she sets in front of them ranting at and disobeying the Officer.

I will go home at the end of my shift. Alive and uninjured. I have just as much rights as you. Comply with Police Officers and Deputies. Piss, moan, argue, sue and file a complaint later if you want.

[Widows Son]

[QUOTE=KansaiVet;1317677]Just a thought, do what you are told. The street is not the place to argue the situation. You argue your case in the courts.


Comply with Officers on the street. Not the place to argue and disobey. In my mind as a retired officer everybody I encounter is armed until I prove differently. If you comply you will be treated with courtesy and respect. I am not saying I too would have deployed a taser on this woman, but since the advent of the taser you don't end up going hands on with people and wrestling. Officer and suspects are more likely to be injured in a wrestling match.

Also remember if you do wrestle with someone there is always a gun there. The Officer's. I know. I had a lengthy fight with a 130 pound guy who tried to take my firearm out of my holster. All the while telling me repeatedly "I don't want to kill you, but I will if I have to." This guy for about 5 minutes (felt like an hour) till my cover arrived gave me all I could handle. He nearly killed me. I still have nightmares over it. This was all over a $25 warrant and him not wanting to go to jail over it. I am 6 foot and 190 pounds and well trained. He was all over me. I was a bloody mess after the fight and we both ended up in the hospital. A taser would have ended the fight before it started.

I will deploy the taser 10 out of 10 times to avoid going to the ground with some person who is pissed off because she is getting a ticket. Remember by her own admission the Officer told her she was under arrest. He was not about to unarrest her. A person leaving thier vehicle into traffic is an Officer and citizen safety hazard.

I will go home at the end of my shift. Alive and uninjured. I have just as

Great post!!! couldn't agree more with your comments. I haven't had a chance to see the video yet but, some of my most interesting encounters have been with female violators. The drunk ones are especially nasty.

[AWATCH]

Originally Posted by KansaiVet

Just a thought, do what you are told. The street is not the place to argue the situation. You argue your case in the courts.


Comply with Officers on the street. Not the place to argue and disobey. In my mind as a retired officer everybody I encounter is armed until I prove differently. If you comply you will be treated with courtesy and respect. With the advent of the taser you don't end up going hands on with people and wrestling. Officer and suspects are more likely to be injured in a wrestling match.

, sue and file a complaint later if you want.

I agree with this obey and go to court later, but this video looks to me like she did obey. this police officer went for his taser way to quickly...
She was in the car and got dragged out and thrown to the street. Use of force is authorized if you are in danger... don't look like it here ...

[Gaijin]

Originally Posted by AWATCH

I agree with this obey and go to court later, but this video looks to me like she did obey. this police officer went for his taser way to quickly...
She was in the car and got dragged out and thrown to the street. Use of force is authorized if you are in danger... don't look like it here ...

No. Not only when you are in danger. Not to be an ass, but you are incorrect. Under the force guidelines and departmental policy you may use force to affect an arrest. Use of force IS authorized to effect an arrest. Not only when in danger. And get this. I don't need to put myself into danger just so that I can use force. I deploy the taser when her intent is shown clearly by her that she is not going to to comply. I end the situation quickly without her or I being injured or worse.

She was told she was under arrest and once she went back into the car she was told to get out so the Officer could take her into custody. She did not comply and the Officer had to physically remove her. Getting someone out of their car that does not want to exit is very difficult. There really is no good way to do it. She did get thrown to the ground, but I am sure she was being told to go to the ground by the Officer while this was going on and did not do it. Whenever I used control on someone I always verbally told them what I was wanting them to do and when the dynamics allowed tried to give them an opportunity to comply.

He initially deployed (not fired) his taser to get her to comply. He only tased her during the physical altercation. Granted she was not punching the Officer but she was resisting. Both by her actions and words. It would have been much uglier if he had to fight with her using control holds or strikes. Tased her. She's fine he's fine. She gets her moment to bitch about the Officer on Youtube. The Officer goes home to his family.

[macstiltskin]

These sort of situations should be judged in a courtroom, not on youtube or a watch forum. We simply do not know the full facts of the case, IMHO.

[Mike B]

Originally Posted by macstiltskin

These sort of situations should be judged in a courtroom, not on youtube or a watch forum. We simply do not know the full facts of the case, IMHO.

X2. Very well said.

[JPersat]

Originally Posted by KansaiVet

Just a thought, do what you are told. The street is not the place to argue the situation. You argue your case in the courts.


Comply with Officers on the street. Not the place to argue and disobey. In my mind as a retired officer everybody I encounter is armed until I prove differently. If you comply you will be treated with courtesy and respect. With the advent of the taser you don't end up going hands on with people and wrestling. Officers and suspects are more likely to be injured in a wrestling match.

Also remember if you do wrestle with someone there is always a gun there. The Officer's. I know. I had a lengthy fight with a 130 pound guy who tried to take my firearm out of my holster. All the while telling me repeatedly "I don't want to kill you, but I will if I have to." This guy for about 5 minutes (felt like an hour) till my cover arrived gave me all I could handle. He nearly killed me. I still have nightmares over it. This was all over a $25 warrant and him not wanting to go to jail over it. I am 6 foot and 190 pounds and well trained. He was all over me. I was a bloody mess after the fight and we both ended up in the hospital. A taser would have ended the fight before it started.

I will deploy the taser 10 out of 10 times to avoid going to the ground with some person who is pissed off because she is getting a ticket. Remember by her own admission the Officer told her she was under arrest. He was not about to unarrest her. A person leaving thier vehicle into traffic is an Officer and citizen safety concern. Who cares if her kids were there. Great example she sets in front of them ranting at and disobeying the Officer.

I will go home at the end of my shift. Alive and uninjured. I have just as much rights as you. Comply with Police Officers and Deputies. Piss, moan, argue, sue and file a complaint later if you want.

x2...if they want to argue about it, argue it to the jugde. Now instead of just a speeding ticket, she has another charge of Resisting Arrest or Detention. I booked an intoxicated girl Friday morning for Resisting Arrest. Boy, that was a fight and it seemed like it went on for a while.

[idk01]

The video and situation from what I see are seen through our eyes but not felt, She should have never alighted the vehicle, not a written law here in AU but pretty standard, most uniformed officers here would instantly be on their guard as soon as you opened the door never mind getting out.

Let it get to court and fight it there, don't risk getting shocked back into reality.

[Lol-x]

I'd like to hear the actual audio of the conversation. I don't think it would have sounded quite as calm as the narration my have one believe, but who knows.

[openwheelracing]

I just watched the video with no sound. I can't side with the officer here. It appears the officer abused his authority.

[Watchdog]

Hmmmm, from my perspective as a person who does not put his life on the line every day, it sure looked excessive, to say the least, to me.

But then again, I don't have to walk up to strange cars wondering if the occupant is going to pull out a gun and blow my head off.

That's tough . . . and without the audio.

I do believe, however, that videos like this--fairly or unfairly--tarnish the reputation of the police who are, in general, an outstanding and ethical fraternity that protects many lives.

Ultimately, I wasn't thrilled by what I saw, but we all need to remember that the media doesn't show dashboard video of all the millions and millions of police stops in this country that go exactly as they should.

[Art 1]

Maybe she was going for a gun, or the cop thought so. She should have stayed in the car at first and not demanded to see the tape.

[rainman_16]

I generally will side with the police officer. They deal with so many unknown and risky situations, characters, motives, intentions that they must be on their guard for their own protection and that of the people they deal with.

I'd hate to put myself in what seems like such a mundane situation like a traffic stop, however, you never know who you're dealing with or what they're capable of. Perhaps force was excessive, perhaps it was justified. We only get one side of the story through this video so it is difficult to ascertain.

If she only did what she was told rather than challenging the officer in the street (in front of her kids), none of this would have happened. I would have assumed everyone knows that you don't leave your vehicle during a traffic stop.

[AIKO]

Looked strong handed IMO but who knows for sure.

[onkyo]

An overall unfortunate situation... but she should have never gotten out of her car as the officer was walking away... and gotten back in her car when she was instructed to do so.

Not a wise move on that ladies part.

[cyberone]

I am not touching this with a ten foot pole

[erwin]

Maybe her kids were asleep thats why the cop didn't care about her pleading!

[unclesallie]

i generally agree with not arguing with a cop on the street and obeying his/her lawful orders. yep. complain later. what rarely is analyzed is the quality of the police officer...is he/she smart, dumb? nasty, nice? cool-headed or a razor thin temper about to explode?
which, in the final analysis is ,IMHO, why the motorist/citizen has to comply: did you get arrested by a smart, sophisticated cool-headed cop, or a freak intent on drama and carnage? BTW, same goes for any profession.