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Old 18 August 2009, 01:17 PM   #1
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sea dweller vs deep sea

Is it worht buying the sea dweller rather than the deep sea, since rolex stop
making the sea dweller. Any comments..
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Old 18 August 2009, 01:23 PM   #2
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I thought long and hard about that too. In the end I bought the DeepSea and could not be happier. It is still so new and hard to find, many don't know what it is; it is different in appearance than the Submariner and the Sea-Dweller and I think it is a good investment when compared to what the first Sea-Dwellers are bringing now. That is my 2 cents.
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Old 22 August 2009, 07:44 AM   #3
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I thought long and hard about that too. In the end I bought the DeepSea and could not be happier. It is still so new and hard to find, many don't know what it is; it is different in appearance than the Submariner and the Sea-Dweller and I think it is a good investment when compared to what the first Sea-Dwellers are bringing now. That is my 2 cents.
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Old 31 August 2009, 12:18 PM   #4
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If both watches appeal to you equally, then one determining factor could be price.

In asbolute terms, the Deepsea is more expensive BUT you're paying a discount to MRSP whereas you would probably have to pay the full MRSP or maybe a premium over MRSP for the SD because the market and ADs are factoring in the likelihood of it being discontinued.

To me, paying a discount on the list price is always preferable than paying a premium - as I said, provided of course that you view both watches equally.

And provided you can afford the $7,600 or so that the Deepsea costs. Good luck!
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Old 18 August 2009, 01:28 PM   #5
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I have the Sea Dweller and love it. Will it be a good investment? Most likely not but I doubt it will lose any value either. If courser I bought it new about 9 years ago...
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Old 18 August 2009, 01:32 PM   #6
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I think it comes down to size. Some like myself don't care for watches over 42mm. Omega Speedmaster Pro is about as big as I personal like. Now I have seen the Deep Sea in the wild and it did not like out of place on a rather small man. Will it be a daily wearer? Questions like this can only be ask by one's self. Both will hold there value for years to come. (IMHO)
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Old 18 August 2009, 01:37 PM   #7
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the old sea dweller is plenty of watch for my way of thinking. ymmv
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Old 18 August 2009, 01:44 PM   #8
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I bought the Sea Dweller this time last year, and I love it, but I keep looking at the Deep Sea... as well as..... or instead of......
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Old 18 August 2009, 01:52 PM   #9
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I own a 16600 and a 1665.......I tried on the Deep Sea.....It seems to be very well made indeed.......But WAY to thick for my taste......It looked silly to me and I am NOT a small guy....But then again that's only my opinion....people should buy what suits them....
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Old 18 August 2009, 05:11 PM   #10
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I had the same dilemma - loved the SDDS, but did not think it was a daily watch.

So I bought a brand new Sea Dweller which I wear daily and dive with.

But the "Rolex Siren" called and I bought a SDDS for diving and holidays and will carry on wearing the SD daily.

Greedy I know, but to me they are the two best technical and best looking dive watches in the world.

I also like the Submariner 14060M and will add this to my collection.

If you choose any of the three - they are all wonderful.

The SD in my opinion will be a good investment, as it is discontinued and the SDDS is most radical change Rolex have made and is too big for many, so the SD will become sort after - with a premium.

Hope this helps.

They are beautiful dive watches.
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I had the same dilemma - loved the SDDS, but did not think it was a daily watch.

So I bought a brand new Sea Dweller which I wear daily and dive with.

But the "Rolex Siren" called and I bought a SDDS for diving and holidays and will carry on wearing the SD daily.

Greedy I know, but to me they are the two best technical and best looking dive watches in the world.

I also like the Submariner 14060M and will add this to my collection.

If you choose any of the three - they are all wonderful.

The SD in my opinion will be a good investment, as it is discontinued and the SDDS is most radical change Rolex have made and is too big for many, so the SD will become sort after - with a premium.

Hope this helps.

They are beautiful dive watches.
Well the SD has not changed since 1988/9 except for non lug case and a few very minor font details and different case stamps.So sure must be quite a few in circulation,IMHO no watch should be classed as a investment.But Rolex watches have always returned a good price in the used market.Now the DSSD although quite a bit of good engineering,but IMHO most bought will never see water other than the local pool etc.Its a bit like Tourbillions excellent engineering on the watchmakers parts and great skill to make the cage etc.But in reality not much use in a wrist watch as Tourbillions work best in one single position.Very expensive to own, and they make them because they can, a bit like the DSSD great engineering but doubt if it will ever be needed by any man.
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Old 18 August 2009, 10:26 PM   #12
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Neither are an investment, both are great and unique watches.
Try them both on and see which sings to you more.
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Old 18 August 2009, 10:53 PM   #13
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Try them both on and see which sings to you more.
Exactly right. Watches are not investments. Buy the one that you want to wear not the one you think will possibly make money.

The only Rolex I sold for significantly more than I paid for it was only after 15 years of ownership. And even at that it did not make as much as a CD or other investment would have made in less time.
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Old 22 August 2009, 05:43 AM   #14
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Exactly right. Watches are not investments. Buy the one that you want to wear not the one you think will possibly make money.

The only Rolex I sold for significantly more than I paid for it was only after 15 years of ownership. And even at that it did not make as much as a CD or other investment would have made in less time.
.The DEEPSEA is still very new and not a lot of people have had the chance too check them out.But the more I read, the more I am sure that the Deepsea is going to skyrocket in prise.My AD tells me that the demand for the watch has Dwarfed all others in its class.I am on board with you in that you should buy the watch you like and not the one you think will make money.however,I feel that my Deepsea has also turned into a very good investment.
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Old 31 August 2009, 01:01 AM   #15
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.The DEEPSEA is still very new and not a lot of people have had the chance too check them out.But the more I read, the more I am sure that the Deepsea is going to skyrocket in prise.My AD tells me that the demand for the watch has Dwarfed all others in its class.I am on board with you in that you should buy the watch you like and not the one you think will make money.however,I feel that my Deepsea has also turned into a very good investment.
Well you can believe whatever you like but the fact is that very very few watches can beat out a good investment over time and I doubt that the DSSD will either. In general Rolex watches are good because few others hold their value over time even when used, but to call them an investment even in this economy is not reasonable in my book. My first Seadweller appreciated over a period of about 18 years but certainly nothing close to my investments during the same time. When the economy is bad people are not willing to spend as much on 2nd hand luxury items as well so don't think you could run out today and sell your DSSD for as much as you paid for it. There are plenty of new ones sitting on the shelves right now and I could easily get 10% off at an AD for a brand new one and more like %25 off at a gray market dealer. I have seen used models in the $7 K range. So unless your AD gave you %25 to %30 off retail don't look for the big bucks any time soon.

If Rolex were to discontinue the DSSD in the next few years you could probably make a nice profit in a few years following that but the bad news is you will have to give up a watch that it seems like you probably like a lot.

I have absolutely no personal attachment to any stock, bond, stamp, coin, or other item that I have as an investment. Selling them off does not bother me in the least and a lot of them earn dividends quarterly.

So enjoy your watch and keep it a long time but don't count on some astronomical windfall in the future. Get some real investments through an investment counselor rather than listening to your Rolex AD about them.
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Old 31 August 2009, 02:43 AM   #16
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Well you can believe whatever you like but the fact is that very very few watches can beat out a good investment over time and I doubt that the DSSD will either. In general Rolex watches are good because few others hold their value over time even when used, but to call them an investment even in this economy is not reasonable in my book. My first Seadweller appreciated over a period of about 18 years but certainly nothing close to my investments during the same time. When the economy is bad people are not willing to spend as much on 2nd hand luxury items as well so don't think you could run out today and sell your DSSD for as much as you paid for it. There are plenty of new ones sitting on the shelves right now and I could easily get 10% off at an AD for a brand new one and more like %25 off at a gray market dealer. I have seen used models in the $7 K range. So unless your AD gave you %25 to %30 off retail don't look for the big bucks any time soon.

If Rolex were to discontinue the DSSD in the next few years you could probably make a nice profit in a few years following that but the bad news is you will have to give up a watch that it seems like you probably like a lot.

I have absolutely no personal attachment to any stock, bond, stamp, coin, or other item that I have as an investment. Selling them off does not bother me in the least and a lot of them earn dividends quarterly.

So enjoy your watch and keep it a long time but don't count on some astronomical windfall in the future. Get some real investments through an investment counselor rather than listening to your Rolex AD about them.
I dont know who was talking about beating out investments?The point is ,there are many Rolex watches that will only increase in price sooner rather than later.As for your comment about my AD,Im not sure how you concluded that I get finiancal advise from them,I was simpley stating a fact I was told by them!
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Old 22 August 2009, 05:12 AM   #17
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Neither are an investment, both are great and unique watches.
Try them both on and see which sings to you more.
Im not sure I understand why you say neither are an investment.IMHO,I think both watches are a great choise and will fetch more than msrp down the road.
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they are both great ..but i would go for the deepsea
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Old 22 August 2009, 05:13 AM   #19
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Old 22 August 2009, 05:27 AM   #20
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I could not decide

Here they are side by side.
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Old 30 August 2009, 06:46 PM   #21
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Here they are side by side.
NICE!

I did the same thing today at my AD (except I used my GMT as a size comparison since I don't have the SD and none in stock at AD).....and made my decision to get the Deap Sea as my 4th one.
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Old 31 August 2009, 02:04 AM   #22
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Here they are side by side.
I think this photo exaggerates the size difference.
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Old 19 August 2009, 11:01 AM   #23
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Thank you all. Its a pleasure reading all you thread. This will make my decision easy.
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Old 22 August 2009, 01:47 AM   #24
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DEEPSEA for me
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Old 22 August 2009, 01:51 AM   #25
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Old 22 August 2009, 05:45 AM   #26
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I don't see a beveled edge on the sea dweller and my old SD didn't have one that I can notice. I have looked online and I have seen some cases with a beveled edge but I don't know if it wasn't suppose to have one or not. Maybe someone can clarify this?
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16600 Sea Dweller for me...

In terms of 'investment' (if there is such a thing - rather which will maintain the majority of it's value) - for the short term - neither really.

Long-term: Sea Dweller, as the DEEP SEA has only just been released, so is therefore further aware from being discontinued.

MEGA long-term: perhaps the DEEP SEA, once it is discontinued! (which could be well into my lifetime!) just as it is so unique (for now anyway, but perhaps not in 60 years or so with the new clasps and ceramic bezels being featured on the new Subc's and beyond). That 'gas escape' ring is no doubt iconic and set to become legendary...

who really knows though? Certainly not me over anyone else on here

I am certainly happy with my SD though, and was fortunate enough to try on a SDDS a couple of months prior to that. Sat too high for me, in addition to proportions of the bracelet/case size and gas escape ring for my personal taste (in that order of personal dislike)

Absolutely fantastic and brilliant looking watch though, just didnt like it on my wrist (as much as I wanted to )
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I believe Rolex is trying to transition into larger watches and the Sea Dweller was a great diver and to only improve it was to make the DSSD.

The DSSD is the current version and the SD is now the vintage version of Rolex's most robust diver.

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I believe Rolex is trying to transition into larger watches and the Sea Dweller was a great diver and to only improve it was to make the DSSD.

The DSSD is the current version and the SD is now the vintage version of Rolex's most robust diver.

This seems to be the trend with a lot of watch companies. Rolex now has the Deep Sea, the YMII(42.7MM?) the DJII(41MM?) And women seem to be into larger watches too. I still like my watches 40-42MM. That said I would not mind seeing a new Daytona based on the YMII case.
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SD for me I've tried on the DSD and it was just too big (IMO) Saying that I would not turn one down if offered one free.
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