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11 August 2023, 12:32 AM | #1 |
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These lugs are significantly overpolished, right?
I came across a listing for this 16800 with lugs that look pretty skinny. Just hoping to get some validation that my eyes aren't miscalibrated. Thanks in advance!
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11 August 2023, 12:35 AM | #2 |
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They are.
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11 August 2023, 12:39 AM | #3 |
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they are, but the picture could be deceiving. ask for more pictures from different angles
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11 August 2023, 12:45 AM | #4 |
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Photo isn’t the best maybe a few different angles would help
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11 August 2023, 01:02 AM | #5 |
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Appears that way from the pic
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11 August 2023, 01:08 AM | #6 |
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Appreciate all the responses. Here are a few more pics:
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Considering its age looks quite normal and remember lugs on the crown side have always been thinner on most all Rolex watches for the past 40 plus years.
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It’s fine considering how old it is
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11 August 2023, 01:22 AM | #9 |
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Chamfers are gone, springbars getting out from the lug holes. Yes it has been polished many times and over polished to my eyes. Adding the endlink fitment it’s a hard pass
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Decent looking watch.
Tops have been re-scratches but the lugs themselves are typical for the era/age. Looks like it may have mismatched end links or one of them is just improperly bent - might even be the wrong spring bar... Nothing here that a little elbow grease and tweaking couldn't help. 40-50 year old watches aren't going to look like new watches.
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well what would you expect from a watch of that age expect it has been warn and enjoyed and not like the mainly pampered watches of today. The spring bars could be simply down to the wrong bars being fitted quite normal back then as for the end-link just need a little bend to get it back in shape not rocket science to do..
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The question is simple and the answer is simple. The watch has been polished many times and the polishing job is not great. Chamfers are gone. I would never buy this watch and any serious vintage collector would not consider it as well. |
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I really don't see what all the fuss is about, its an old watch with some signs of wear. The end links can be either bent back into shape or cheaply replaced. It most likely has the wrong spring bars, no major dishing of the lug holes as far as I can see. The crown guard is reasonable. If you wanted a watch to actually wear this might be the watch for you
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I agree Peter, it's an good/average 40 yr old 16800 submariner - - imho too many here just play the dreary 'it's polished card' too often.
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If OP is true collector I would say pass this one. But if just want to get couple neo-vintage to enjoy the vintage vibe then buy it if price is right. |
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11 August 2023, 06:36 AM | #18 |
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My first thought... it's worthless.
An over reaction for sure, but it would have looked a whole lot better if the lugs were original with all the dings and dents from a lifetime of wear reflecting the enjoyment of its owner/s. |
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Springs bars poking out. Old or not old, pass on this. It’s a dog
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Looks about right for an early 1980s Sub. An honest example, I'd say.
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I have no problem with it. It’s not a bad example.
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I’d agree with this, certainly not ‘ a dog’ as as a previous post said
A perfectly reasonable and useable example especially if well priced. Personally I don’t even post pics like that on this forum asking for opinions as there’s too many on here that expect vintage used watches to be as new, get real, it’s a fair condition watch for it’s age
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11 August 2023, 10:26 AM | #23 |
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Typical amateur polish job(s) that are often performed by an AD’s so called watchmaker who doesn’t know any better. Very common on most watches. I had the pleasure of conversing with a Rolex trainer who had a shop after retirement. It was a 30+ minute discussion with demonstration on proper technique and tools so as to get the job done right each time. Did the service on my watches for over a decade and his work was meticulous.
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IDK... seem to be a few issues. Something up with either the lugs or the 6 endlink. The natural asymmetry of the lugs is gone; the lugs opposite the crown should be slightly thicker and they are not. The endlink issue bothers me more. Might just need to be bent back into shape.
Unless it's really a good deal I'd move on depending on how much this stuff bugs you. Plenty of examples like this on owners wrists though as others have commented. |
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That example is horrible. Not
only is it over polished but the end link is extremely loose Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
11 August 2023, 03:46 PM | #27 |
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Polished, but I would not say "significantly overpolished"... this one actually looks like a light and professional polish
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11 August 2023, 04:34 PM | #28 |
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Don't listen to them. It's going to look terrible in reality. The pins are exposed, the chamfers melted away, etc.
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OP next time you should post on the Vintage section. Much more vintage experts there!
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