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Old 17 August 2023, 01:13 PM   #1
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AD offer a package deal?

Evening All,

Got a text from my AD this afternoon. He offered a datejust everose mother of pearl with diamonds dial along side with a Batman.
I wonder if I should take the “package” and sell the datejust right the way to a grey dealer - I may lose on taxes but at least I still get a new Batman.
Any suggestions? Just want a clear mind to help think it through.
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Old 17 August 2023, 01:15 PM   #2
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I would pass judging how soft the market is lately.
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Old 17 August 2023, 02:12 PM   #3
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I would pass judging how soft the market is lately.
Of which this bundling offer is another indicator.
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Old 17 August 2023, 01:24 PM   #4
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Maybe make a few inquiries on the DJ? Could end up taking quite a bath on it assuming any dealer even wants it.
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Old 17 August 2023, 01:24 PM   #5
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Only if you want the datejust otherwise why buy it?
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Old 17 August 2023, 01:30 PM   #6
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…wont be long before they are offering the Batman straight.
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Old 17 August 2023, 01:33 PM   #7
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Great news. No chance of such a bundle being offered 2 years ago.
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Old 17 August 2023, 01:37 PM   #8
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Old 17 August 2023, 02:17 PM   #9
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Extortion. Wouldn't do it. Be a man of principle. Just say NO! Your time will come! Be Strong!
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Old 17 August 2023, 02:18 PM   #10
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Not a chance in Gotham City I’d do that deal.


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Old 17 August 2023, 02:26 PM   #11
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For a Batman, I’d bundle a TT DJ at best.

Value doesn’t work in your favour. Hard pass for me.
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Old 17 August 2023, 02:34 PM   #12
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Old 17 August 2023, 02:43 PM   #13
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If I’m looking at the right watch on the Rolex site that’s a $35200 piece. Very specialized watch, one you should never buy unless you absolutely want it. You would take a bath unloading it, not many in the market for it, a grey would offer you peanuts.
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Old 17 August 2023, 02:53 PM   #14
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Perhaps just pay a visit with a friend, have them show you both watches for your inspection/approval and declare the DJ unacceptable.

Hand over your credit card while saying, I accept your offer.

Rolex has updated the T&Cs - ADs must not offer tie-in sales (aka bundles with quid pro quo).

You’ll get your watch and they can keep the DJ.


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Old 17 August 2023, 02:56 PM   #15
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Perhaps just pay a visit with a friend, have them show you both watches for your inspection/approval and declare the DJ unacceptable.

Hand over your credit card while saying, I accept your offer.

Rolex has updated the T&Cs - ADs must not offer tie-in sales (aka bundles with quid pro quo).

You’ll get your watch and they can keep the DJ.


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Old 17 August 2023, 03:04 PM   #16
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DJ would be hard to sell IMO. I won't do it.
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Old 17 August 2023, 03:34 PM   #17
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I wonder if I should take the “package” and sell the datejust right the way to a grey dealer - I may lose on taxes but at least I still get a new Batman
You will lose far more than just the taxes. There are no grey dealers out there at this point in time who would pay you more than 70% of what you paid. If that. This is not 2020 anymore.
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Old 17 August 2023, 04:26 PM   #18
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I would imagine you'd be better off buying the BLNR grey in this scenario.

The BLNR in the UK is trading for around 4-5k above retail, you will lose around 40-50% of the money spent on the DJ making this a very expensive BLNR at retail.
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Old 18 August 2023, 10:07 AM   #19
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I would imagine you'd be better off buying the BLNR grey in this scenario.

The BLNR in the UK is trading for around 4-5k above retail, you will lose around 40-50% of the money spent on the DJ making this a very expensive BLNR at retail.
I totally agree with this. Just go grey on the Batman. Good luck.
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Old 18 August 2023, 01:28 PM   #20
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I totally agree with this. Just go grey on the Batman. Good luck.

Definitely don’t buy the BLNR on the grey market. Prices are still outrageous and not moving at all. It’s not worth submitting an offer for something still 4-5k above what it should be.

Hang tight. Wait it out. It’s just a watch at the end of the day. If you get the call from AD take the 4-5k you saved and go on a nice vacay or bu another watch.

But paying Grey prices when they are on a life support is insane


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Old 17 August 2023, 04:48 PM   #21
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I am no expert in consumer retail law

But with any purchase you have a right to a refund usually within a certain period of time, correct?

What is to stop you getting both. Then asking to return the one you don’t want?
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Old 17 August 2023, 05:06 PM   #22
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I am no expert in consumer retail law

But with any purchase you have a right to a refund usually within a certain period of time, correct?

What is to stop you getting both. Then asking to return the one you don’t want?
Not if you buy it in person and they peel off all the tags and foils in front of you.. At best, they could offer you a store credit.
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Old 17 August 2023, 05:39 PM   #23
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Not if you buy it in person and they peel off all the tags and foils in front of you.. At best, they could offer you a store credit.
Ha yeah. $30k store credit to buy as much full price jewellery as you like

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Old 17 August 2023, 05:13 PM   #24
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I am no expert in consumer retail law — this is true.

But with any purchase you have a right to a refund usually within a certain period of time, correct? — this doesn’t apply to food or Rolex.

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Old 17 August 2023, 07:41 PM   #25
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I am no expert in consumer retail law

But with any purchase you have a right to a refund usually within a certain period of time, correct?

What is to stop you getting both. Then asking to return the one you don’t want?
As has been said, not in person unless faulty, otherwise only by post under UK distance selling regulations, returned in original condition.

But the OP is in the USA.
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Old 19 August 2023, 04:28 PM   #26
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I am no expert in consumer retail law

But with any purchase you have a right to a refund usually within a certain period of time, correct?

What is to stop you getting both. Then asking to return the one you don’t want?
Unwanted goods are not covered by the law eg no retailer or obliged to accept a return on unwanted goods. Exceptions are when faulty, or goods purchased online.

(Many retailers have a policy that allows it, but that’s above law)
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Old 17 August 2023, 04:57 PM   #27
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Tell him/her that you spending 11 thousand dollars of your hard earned money in their store will have to suffice.

Don't know the size of the DJ or if it has a diamond bezel along with diamond markers, but you will lose a lot of money selling to a gray.
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Old 17 August 2023, 05:17 PM   #28
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Evening All,

Got a text from my AD this afternoon. He offered a datejust everose mother of pearl with diamonds dial along side with a Batman.
I wonder if I should take the “package” and sell the datejust right the way to a grey dealer - I may lose on taxes but at least I still get a new Batman.
Any suggestions? Just want a clear mind to help think it through.
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Anyone taking a package bundle deal from any AD for a watch they dont really want,either must have more money than sense,or be sixpence short of a shilling.And if all prospective Rolex buyers told all the ADs the second word is off who offer this to buy a watch then perhaps we could get back to normality.
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Old 17 August 2023, 05:20 PM   #29
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I was offered a batman with US$8K spending on Tudor . But the Tudor must include at least 2 non-sports model plus sports model to cover any difference. The sports model cant be the latest ones in the last two years.

I passed on it. I like Tudors, but I have all the Tudors I wanted. I have Daytona, Sub, Skydweller, DJ, OP and Exp II, so my collection is mainly missing a GMT, which I am despite to buy, but I hold onto it. Worst comes by, I go grey and get a batman from 2014 which is very close to current retail.
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