Spanish kiss story

[colpol]

Looks like the Spanish FA president going to have to resign as heard all 23 World Cup squad players have signed a letter saying won’t play again until he’s removed. Both parties offering different versions of what happened.

Either way - should have stuck to a handshake.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/23661...s-sacked-kiss?

Ps - looks like he was wearing a Cartier


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[scarlet knight]

He was inappropriate. Treated women like his play things.

[Brenngun]

I somehow doubt that in this moment he asked “May I kiss you and she said yes”. So what possible story could he fabricate that would explain his actions other than “well I’m a dumb ass”.

[Blansky]

When I first saw this I thought it was some sort of cultural thing, the whole face and lips kissing thing in parts of Europe and Russia, even in men greeting.

Then I saw how the team was pissed I guess it was inappropriate after all.

The whole, “ when granny gave us a kiss as kids and slipped us the tongue”, cringe joke.

[Letsgodiving]

He also grabbed his crotch in celebration next to the Spanish Queen and her 16 year old daughter just before this episode so I don't think this guy has much of a filter. Exuberant celebration is one thing but this is just a spectacular demonstration of poor judgement and lack of decorum.

[brandrea]

Originally Posted by Letsgodiving

He also grabbed his crotch in celebration next to the Spanish Queen and her 16 year old daughter just before this episode so I don't think this guy has much of a filter. Exuberant celebration is one thing but this is just a spectacular demonstration of poor judgement and lack of decorum.

Yes, that was

[SDGT3]

Originally Posted by Letsgodiving

He also grabbed his crotch in celebration next to the Spanish Queen and her 16 year old daughter just before this episode so I don't think this guy has much of a filter. Exuberant celebration is one thing but this is just a spectacular demonstration of poor judgement and lack of decorum.

I was informed about the crotch grabbing thing later and that should be the end of him. However, at the time of the stage ceremony, I was saying how happy to is guy was but a litte forward with the ladies, then he grabbed and kissed the male coach too and thought, “well, maybe that’s just him being overly happy and he does it with guys and girls?”

Let’s not forget the many incidents the keeper for Argentina displayed after winning the World Cup last year… horrible manners and not becoming of a champion.

[AzPaul]

It really is exhausting trying to keep up with all the people I should be mad at.

[Speedbird-1]

Originally Posted by AzPaul

It really is exhausting trying to keep up with all the people I should be mad at.

I keep a list. It's a long list.

[TheVTCGuy]

Originally Posted by AzPaul

It really is exhausting trying to keep up with all the people I should be mad at.

Originally Posted by Speedbird-1

I keep a list. It's a long list.

Does that mean you guys will be dropping me from the list!?

[Hollie_Rollie]

Originally Posted by Letsgodiving

He also grabbed his crotch in celebration next to the Spanish Queen and her 16 year old daughter just before this episode so I don't think this guy has much of a filter. Exuberant celebration is one thing but this is just a spectacular demonstration of poor judgement and lack of decorum.

This, in my opinion, is enough for termination


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[SDGT3]

Originally Posted by Letsgodiving

He also grabbed his crotch in celebration next to the Spanish Queen and her 16 year old daughter just before this episode so I don't think this guy has much of a filter. Exuberant celebration is one thing but this is just a spectacular demonstration of poor judgement and lack of decorum.

Agreed. This cannot be discounted as “cultural”. Can’t see how this behavior, independent of the over exuberant kissing on stage, is how the Spanish Federation would want their president to be represented globally.

[77T]

It’s going to be a sensitive subject here on TRF and hope all the following comments will stay respectful like these have been.

My assessment: He will be out. If he has a parachute in his contract for retiring, he might “retire”. Otherwise he may get nothing if he is terminated under a “code of conduct” clause.


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[TheVTCGuy]

The last time I kissed a woman there was a lot of outrage as well

[RichardBartlett]

Originally Posted by TheVTCGuy

The last time I kissed a woman there was a lot of outrage as well

Is that when you lost your job at the morgue?

[RichardBartlett]

If you watch the whole scene including other players NOT ONE declined a hug or kiss.

If you watch the actual incident she puts her hands around his waist embracing him. Sure he was over exuberant but as she never reacted or objected. Walked away smiling
She also carried on celebrating and posting Instagram pictures. Only after, long after did she want to cash in on the 'me too' movement. (PTSD no doubt :-/)

Basically it's complete bollox. The lets go round up a posse as we are mortally offended
is part of why the west is in terminal decline and the rest of the world is busy pushing forward whilst the west is picking fluff out if his/her/them/they belly button..

A true assault needs and should be addressed. This is childish nonsense and we deserve everything the 3rd world is going to bring to us in due time...IMHO

[Dirt]

Originally Posted by RichardBartlett

If you watch the whole scene including other players NOT ONE declined a hug or kiss.

If you watch the actual incident she puts her hands around his waist embracing him. Sure he was over exuberant but as she never reacted or objected. Walked away smiling
She also carried on celebrating and posting Instagram pictures. Only after, long after did she want to cash in on the 'me too' movement. (PTSD no doubt :-/)

Basically it's complete bollox. The lets go round up a posse as we are mortally offended
is part of why the west is in terminal decline and the rest of the world is busy pushing forward whilst the west is picking fluff out if his/her/them/they belly button..

A true assault needs and should be addressed. This is childish nonsense and we deserve everything the 3rd world is going to bring to us in due time...IMHO

I think you hit the nail right on the head
But I have to agree with the other post that has identified the man has no filter

When I saw that kiss on the news I had to take a good look at the whole thing to try and gain some kind of context and I thought it could go either way on him depending on how the outrage meter was trending with the other players.
It's a classic case of group think on so many levels.
Now we(the whole world) knows which way the meter was swinging and people have weighed into it and declared a position. Simply because they can

Opinions are like the proverbial. As everyone has one.
But everybody is entitled to their opinion regardless of how ridiculous or stupid it may be.

The world is going mad, but I was a little shocked at the kiss but made some cultural allowances for it.
Perhaps my judgement is off too?

[superdog]

Originally Posted by RichardBartlett

If you watch the whole scene including other players NOT ONE declined a hug or kiss.

If you watch the actual incident she puts her hands around his waist embracing him. Sure he was over exuberant but as she never reacted or objected. Walked away smiling
She also carried on celebrating and posting Instagram pictures. Only after, long after did she want to cash in on the 'me too' movement. (PTSD no doubt :-/)

Basically it's complete bollox. The lets go round up a posse as we are mortally offended
is part of why the west is in terminal decline and the rest of the world is busy pushing forward whilst the west is picking fluff out if his/her/them/they belly button..

A true assault needs and should be addressed. This is childish nonsense and we deserve everything the 3rd world is going to bring to us in due time...IMHO

Agree. I’m having trouble seeing where it was so bad. Or even a little bad. Seemed like both parties were joyously celebrating.

[Dirt]

Originally Posted by superdog

Seemed like both parties were joyously celebrating.

It did indeed.
After the he planted his stolen smooch, she didn't exactly reel back in horror but instead patted him on the flank before moving along. She took it in her stride as if was expected to be a one off and never to be repeated.
If it wasn't a customary interaction between them due to familiarity, she handled it very well as I would expect of someone who is one of the best in the world at the game.
Maybe quietly she will be more vigilant of his exploits in the future.

I fully expect he won't do it again as well so lesson learnt.

[SearChart]

Woke strikes again.

[RichardBartlett]

No getting away from it, she was absolutely destroyed by the whole event..

https://www.canarias7.es/deportes/fu...0939-ntrc.html

[Speedbird-1]

His enemies (there seems to be quite a few in the media), of course, making the most of it.

[RichardBartlett]

Originally Posted by Speedbird-1

His enemies (there seems to be quite a few in the media), of course, making the most of it.

Its amazing how easy it is to get supposedly intelligent, free thinking, rational people to think, say and do exactly what you want them to do..

Mind you the covid hysteria nonsense taught us that and nothing seems to have changed..

Now where did I leave my pitchfork, I've a lynching to go attend to??

[Dirt]

Originally Posted by RichardBartlett

No getting away from it, she was absolutely destroyed by the whole event..

https://www.canarias7.es/deportes/fu...0939-ntrc.html

See.
That's exactly why there are so many damaged people wandering around.
Her life is ruined now and she'll never be able to work at her job and make an honest living for the rest of her life.
She should seek compensation.
I wonder what the size of the payout will be

[Speedbird-1]

He has resigned.

I hope we all agree, there's not enough 'love' in the world.
Ironic then, a man loses his job, because of a quick celebratory kiss.

I know, I know.....It's 2023....everyone, is obliged to be offended, by everything.

[JonaG]

Originally Posted by Speedbird-1

He has resigned.

I hope we all agree, there's not enough 'love' in the world.
Ironic then, a man loses his job, because of a quick celebratory kiss.

I know, I know.....It's 2023....everyone, is obliged to be offended, by everything.

I guess he can kiss his job goodbye now then

[Dirt]

Originally Posted by Speedbird-1

He has resigned.

I hope we all agree, there's not enough 'love' in the world.
Ironic then, a man loses his job, because of a quick celebratory kiss.

I know, I know.....It's 2023....everyone, is obliged to be offended, by everything.

I thought as much.
It was shaping up that he wasn't going to win this one anyway no matter how good for or supportive he may have been for the game.
Has he apologised unreservedly and pledged to spend the rest of his life defending the human rights of those of the contradictory gender and fighting oppression, margininalisation, exploitation and disenfranchisation where ever he finds it in the world.
Also to voluntarily enter a rehab program to help him understand and mend his ways.
What ever he does, he can't find God. They don't like it.
No sir, they do not like it one bit, as it represents everything and stuff of the evil that men do and which underpins every aspect of the patriarchal system that enables men to do the things that men do and everything that is wrong with the world

Maybe he can re-apply for the job again after spending some time in the sin bin as well?
But he will have to pledge a healthy portion of his salary to support the cause and start up a charity of the aggrieved peoples choice.

[White Collar Boy]

Originally Posted by Dirt

I thought as much.

It’s probably of little to no bearing on your indignation at Cancel Culture, but he refuses to resign actually. FIFA suspended him for 90 days.

[Blansky]

This was probably his hero.... at 2:50

[RichardBartlett]

"Spanish football federation threatens legal action against star player in kiss controversy
Federation charges ‘lies’ over Women’s World Cup incident as football boss Luis Rubiales refuses to step down in sexism scandal."

“I want to clarify that, as seen in the footage, I never consented to the kiss he gave me, and, of course, I never intended to lift the president in the air,” Hermoso is quoted as saying in the English-language version of the players’ statement, which was also issued in Spanish.

Oh FFS how dumb or easily led can you be...?

I sincerely hope they push this through. her blatant lying about the event needs to be tested in court and she needs to be punished for trying to gain sympathy/money etc out of it.

Spanish media is full of pictures of sportsmen and officials full on kissing (men on women and vice versa, no 'girl on girl' stuff unfortunately ) and nothing has been said.. Because it's cultural here and no one cared!