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Blue Lantern · 29 August 2009, 12:40 AM

About a month or so ago, I decided to stop looking at Submariner homages and finally buy the real thing. My first choice: a Sub no-date 14060 with a tritium dial from the 1990s.

Along the way though, I was plagued by indecision—I could save a little $ by getting an Explorer 1. Or, spend a little more and get the date, which I use frequently.

I decided that a 16610 from the 1990s would be the best compromise—I’d have the date, but I’d still have the classic tritium dial and the 93150 bracelet.

I saw a good deal come up and grabbed it:

I took it to an AD with a certified Rolex technician who confirmed the watch and movement are authentic. It looks incredible, with the amount of wear you’d expect from a 1990 E-series.

There’s a little bit of wear on a couple of bracelet links and the bracelet clasp has been worn down in one corner, leaving a tiny gap:

Obviously the previous owner was a secret agent, ha ha!

Came with boxes, tag with serial number, no papers, but it did include a really neat piece of history: the original sales receipt. It was purchased on 6/26/91 for $2,500 (plus tax) at Corrigan’s, North East Mall, Hurst, Texas. I paid a few hundred dollars more than that!

So this should be a happy ending, but I have to admit—I wish I had gone with the no-date. It’s the watch I wanted forever, but I decided to be practical. I’ve seen so many people say that they bought the no-date only to regret not having the date. Well, it turns out, the opposite can happen too! I’m going to give it a little time, but don’t be surprised if you see this go up on the sales forum. My wife and I are going away for the weekend, so I'll have some time to think it over.

Here’s another shot: my dog waiting for me to put my camera down:

kcmo · 29 August 2009, 12:41 AM

Always go with your heart!

USP45Tim · 29 August 2009, 12:43 AM

You've made the right decision.

fishrising · 29 August 2009, 12:50 AM

Congrats! Nothing practically wrong with being practical! You can always get a sub no date at a later date.

Blue Lantern · 29 August 2009, 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by kcmo

Always go with your heart!

Lesson learned! But honestly, I think I had to do this to know for sure.

kcmo · 29 August 2009, 01:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blue Lantern

Lesson learned! But honestly, I think I had to do this to know for sure.

I totally agree and have done the same thing. IMO, you only know for sure once you have 'tested' the watch out on your wrist

Brushpup · 29 August 2009, 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Blue Lantern

Lesson learned! But honestly, I think I had to do this to know for sure.

Absolutely correct. I've lived it too and I'm in the struggling process once again. I've made critical life changing decisions that were easier than choosing a damn Rolex watch. It makes me wonder what the hell is wrong with me.

I hope it grows on you, but don't suffer...........get what you long for like Karis (kcmo) says. She is so right. Now if I could just figure out what my heart says this time.

Blue Lantern · 29 August 2009, 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Brushpup

Absolutely correct. I've lived it too and I'm in the struggling process once again. I've made critical life changing decisions that were easier than choosing a damn Rolex watch. It makes me wonder what the hell is wrong with me.

I hope it grows on you, but don't suffer...........get what you long for like Karis (kcmo) says. She is so right. Now if I could just figure out what my heart says this time.

It's great hearing that you and others have gone through this too. I feel the same way. If I was indecisive like this at my job, I wouldn't last a day.

Brushpup · 29 August 2009, 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Blue Lantern

It's great hearing that you and others have gone through this too. I feel the same way. If I was indecisive like this at my job, I wouldn't last a day.

Yeah, it's nice to know there are others with this sickness. I have never suffered the mental ping pong as I have with this situation. I'll go against the grain (or some of it), and tell you to get that no date. Get it smackin' new and be proud to have a different Sub than so many others. There is something about it's balance that is just profound. It is also the last of a breed and that is special too. Keep us posted and enjoy your weekend.

sexner · 29 August 2009, 12:58 AM

Nice Submariner.

And now you have the same Rolex as the rest of the world.

Dan Pierce · 29 August 2009, 01:01 AM

Hope your decision turns out to be right.

If not, you can always by the Sub [no date] and have both.

Congrats,
dP

dpj17 · 29 August 2009, 01:26 AM

A classic, great pick up and for me I also prefer a date on my watches.

marshallr47 · 29 August 2009, 01:57 AM

Well made choice. Congrats.

Speed · 29 August 2009, 02:12 AM

I walked in your shoes...And I am now a proud owner of a Mint Y Serial Sub Date. I paid a fair price / to an incredibly well-thought-of seller: LawrenceB... and could not be happier.

Time will tell if I jones for a No Date...but right now I am looking at a classic on my wrist. I have looked at and for the date numerous times since I strapped it on, so I *think* i have made the right decision!

Hope you enjoy your Sub to the fullest.

Blue Lantern · 29 August 2009, 02:33 AM

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Originally Posted by masugu

I walked in your shoes...And I am now a proud owner of a Mint Y Serial Sub Date. I paid a fair price / to an incredibly well-thought-of seller: LawrenceB... and could not be happier.

Time will tell if I jones for a No Date...but right now I am looking at a classic on my wrist. I have looked at and for the date numerous times since I strapped it on, so I *think* i have made the right decision!

Hope you enjoy your Sub to the fullest.

Nice job--I'm happy you chose correctly! Maybe it's because I'm off today, but for once, the date just doesn't seem critical. I'll see how I am at work next week.

Tools · 29 August 2009, 02:34 AM

Great looking watch..

good choice.........

sakuraba · 29 August 2009, 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Blue Lantern

It was purchased on 6/26/91 for $2,500 (plus tax) at Corrigan’s, North East Mall, Hurst, Texas. I paid a few hundred dollars more than that!

How's that for resale value!

Keep the sub on your wrist for a couple of months before deciding on flipping for a NoDate. What's worse than buyer's remorse is seller's regret!

sea-dweller · 29 August 2009, 03:49 AM

The 16610 is a classic watch and my personal favorite ! Thanks for sharing with us.

karmatp · 29 August 2009, 03:52 AM

You can't go wrong with either sub, congrats.

ashu2289 · 29 August 2009, 04:40 AM

Congrats on your timeless classic

R1@160@alltimes · 29 August 2009, 01:37 PM

I need to have the date function

Good luck

CKLinLA · 29 August 2009, 04:56 AM

Great choice.

Congrats!
Since you do use the date feature the Date Sub is the better choice for you.

RKA · 29 August 2009, 05:13 AM

Let me add my congratulations. My sub date is now a little over one year old and I still catch myself looking at it for no reason. Enjoy!

wgs · 29 August 2009, 06:02 AM

Your watch looks great. At least you're just debating on the Date vs. No Date. I'm all over the place with your two options, plus both Explorer IIs (white vs. black dial), or the GMTc.

Seriously, that's a darn good looking watch you chose.

Blue Lantern · 29 August 2009, 12:52 PM

Okay, I'm giving it a shot! It's fun to be wearing a Rolex in Atlantic City around the casinos. I have to admit, I love how the cyclops makes it so obvious that there's a Rolex on my wrist. And it really does look great, if I say so myself. If I do end up flipping it, I'm still glad I made this initial investment in a great watch.

Blue Lantern · 29 August 2009, 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wgs

Your watch looks great. At least you're just debating on the Date vs. No Date. I'm all over the place with your two options, plus both Explorer IIs (white vs. black dial), or the GMTc.

Seriously, that's a darn good looking watch you chose.

Agreed! Thanks, I appreciate it. Good luck!

Submarino · 29 August 2009, 12:53 PM

Beautiful piece. Congrats!!!

chriseskew24 · 29 August 2009, 12:58 PM

Congrats. I cant emagine not haveing the date.. Hope all turns out well for you. Love the watch...

Art 1 · 29 August 2009, 01:03 PM

A classic, enjoy.

JJ Irani · 29 August 2009, 01:12 PM

Still the best Rolex out there.......excellent choice!!

29 August 2009, 12:40 AM	#1
Blue Lantern "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Delaware Watch: Tudor 79190 Posts: 366	Made a last-minute decision: Sub date instead of no-date About a month or so ago, I decided to stop looking at Submariner homages and finally buy the real thing. My first choice: a Sub no-date 14060 with a tritium dial from the 1990s. Along the way though, I was plagued by indecision—I could save a little $ by getting an Explorer 1. Or, spend a little more and get the date, which I use frequently. I decided that a 16610 from the 1990s would be the best compromise—I’d have the date, but I’d still have the classic tritium dial and the 93150 bracelet. I saw a good deal come up and grabbed it: I took it to an AD with a certified Rolex technician who confirmed the watch and movement are authentic. It looks incredible, with the amount of wear you’d expect from a 1990 E-series. There’s a little bit of wear on a couple of bracelet links and the bracelet clasp has been worn down in one corner, leaving a tiny gap: Obviously the previous owner was a secret agent, ha ha! Came with boxes, tag with serial number, no papers, but it did include a really neat piece of history: the original sales receipt. It was purchased on 6/26/91 for $2,500 (plus tax) at Corrigan’s, North East Mall, Hurst, Texas. I paid a few hundred dollars more than that! So this should be a happy ending, but I have to admit—I wish I had gone with the no-date. It’s the watch I wanted forever, but I decided to be practical. I’ve seen so many people say that they bought the no-date only to regret not having the date. Well, it turns out, the opposite can happen too! I’m going to give it a little time, but don’t be surprised if you see this go up on the sales forum. My wife and I are going away for the weekend, so I'll have some time to think it over. Here’s another shot: my dog waiting for me to put my camera down:

29 August 2009, 12:50 AM	#4
fishrising "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Ben Location: New England, USA Watch: Sub, Pam164, PO-XL Posts: 383	Congrats! Nothing practically wrong with being practical! You can always get a sub no date at a later date. __________________ ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

29 August 2009, 12:58 AM	#10
sexner "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Real Name: 4Q Location: Nowhere near you Watch: 169622, 124060 Posts: 2,014	Nice Submariner. And now you have the same Rolex as the rest of the world. __________________ One should endeavor to do what is right not what is established.

29 August 2009, 01:01 AM	#11
Dan Pierce 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Real Name: D'OH! Location: Kentucky Watch: Rolex-1 Tudor-3 Posts: 36,216	Hope your decision turns out to be right. If not, you can always by the Sub [no date] and have both. Congrats, dP __________________ TRF Member# 1668 Bass Player in TRF "AFTER DARK" Bar & NightClub Band Commander-in-Chief of The Nylon Nation The Crown & Shield Club Honorary Member of P-Club

29 August 2009, 01:26 AM	#12
dpj17 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: In the Middle Posts: 903	A classic, great pick up and for me I also prefer a date on my watches. __________________ Fortes Fortuna Adiuvat

29 August 2009, 12:41 AM	#2
kcmo "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Real Name: Karis Location: USA Posts: 19,377	Always go with your heart!

29 August 2009, 12:43 AM	#3
USP45Tim "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Real Name: Tim Location: Louisiana, Beach Watch: 16570T Posts: 191	You've made the right decision.

29 August 2009, 01:57 AM	#13
marshallr47 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Real Name: Ron Location: Alabama Watch: Daytona,TT Sub,GMT Posts: 4,673	Well made choice. Congrats. __________________ Ron

29 August 2009, 02:12 AM	#14
Speed "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: USA Posts: 19,706	I walked in your shoes...And I am now a proud owner of a Mint Y Serial Sub Date. I paid a fair price / to an incredibly well-thought-of seller: LawrenceB... and could not be happier. Time will tell if I jones for a No Date...but right now I am looking at a classic on my wrist. I have looked at and for the date numerous times since I strapped it on, so I think i have made the right decision! Hope you enjoy your Sub to the fullest.

29 August 2009, 02:34 AM	#16
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,514	Great looking watch.. good choice......... __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member

29 August 2009, 03:49 AM	#18
sea-dweller "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Real Name: Dennis Location: Bay Area - 925 Posts: 40,018	The 16610 is a classic watch and my personal favorite ! Thanks for sharing with us. __________________ TRF Member #6699 (since September 2007)

29 August 2009, 03:52 AM	#19
karmatp "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Real Name: Trevor Location: Arizona Posts: 5,740	You can't go wrong with either sub, congrats. __________________ My grails:

29 August 2009, 04:40 AM	#20
ashu2289 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Real Name: Ashutosh Location: Rochester NY Watch: Daytonas,SD Posts: 2,342	Congrats on your timeless classic __________________ Everything becomes nothing after ROLEX 116520 SS Daytona White Dial 116520 SS Daytona Black Dial 116523 18K&SS Daytona Slate Dial 16600 Sea-Dweller 16710 GMT Master II Pepsi Bezel 16613 18K&SS Submariner Blue Dial 116660 Deepsea Sea-Dweller

29 August 2009, 01:37 PM	#21
R1@160@alltimes "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: USA Watch: ♛ Posts: 4,408	I need to have the date function Good luck __________________

29 August 2009, 04:56 AM	#22
CKLinLA "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Real Name: KL Location: Los Angeles Watch: Explorer II Black Posts: 1,480	Great choice. Congrats! Since you do use the date feature the Date Sub is the better choice for you. __________________ Explorer II 1655; Day Date 1803; Submariner 14060; Deepsea Sea-Dweller 116660; 5-Digit Datejusts; Perpetual Date 1500 and 15000; Pelagos FXD M25707B; Omega Dynamic 'Targa Florio' 5291.51.07; 'Good Planet' GMT 232.30.44.22.03.001; Planet Ocean 215.30.40.20.03.002; Zenith Chronomaster Original 03.3200.3600/22.M3200.

29 August 2009, 05:13 AM	#23
RKA "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Real Name: Keith Location: NC, AZ, USA Watch: GMT Pepsi - Sub Posts: 43	Let me add my congratulations. My sub date is now a little over one year old and I still catch myself looking at it for no reason. Enjoy!

29 August 2009, 06:02 AM	#24
wgs "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: USA Watch: Panerai 000 Posts: 394	Your watch looks great. At least you're just debating on the Date vs. No Date. I'm all over the place with your two options, plus both Explorer IIs (white vs. black dial), or the GMTc. Seriously, that's a darn good looking watch you chose.

29 August 2009, 12:52 PM	#25
Blue Lantern "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Delaware Watch: Tudor 79190 Posts: 366	Okay, I'm giving it a shot! It's fun to be wearing a Rolex in Atlantic City around the casinos. I have to admit, I love how the cyclops makes it so obvious that there's a Rolex on my wrist. And it really does look great, if I say so myself. If I do end up flipping it, I'm still glad I made this initial investment in a great watch.

29 August 2009, 12:53 PM	#27
Submarino "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Real Name: Mr. H Location: Dallas Watch: them for me! Posts: 7,180	Beautiful piece. Congrats!!! __________________ WATCHES ARE THE NEW CURRENCY!/ MEMBER 27491/OFFICIALLY DESIGNATED OLD TIMER /AP OWNERS CLUB MEMBER Instagram @watchcollectinglifestyle

29 August 2009, 12:58 PM	#28
chriseskew24 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Real Name: Christopher Location: fort lauderdale Watch: Bunches Posts: 1,860	Congrats. I cant emagine not haveing the date.. Hope all turns out well for you. Love the watch...

29 August 2009, 01:03 PM	#29
Art 1 Banned Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Florida, Canada Watch: Rol/Seik/Tud/Omega Posts: 30,244	A classic, enjoy.

29 August 2009, 01:12 PM	#30
JJ Irani Fondly Remembered Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: JJ Location: Auckland, NZ Watch: ALL SOLD!! Posts: 74,319	Still the best Rolex out there.......excellent choice!! __________________ Words fail me in expressing my utmost thanks to ALL of you for this wonderful support during my hour of need!! I firmly believe that my time on planet earth is NOT yet up!! I shall fight this to the very end.......and WIN!!

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