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hhuy99 · 31 August 2009, 04:05 AM

I am thinking of getting one to use as a beater.

http://www.alphawatchusa.com/_product_54313/The_MilSub

chriseskew24 · 31 August 2009, 04:15 AM

Think it looks nice and for 70.00 how could you go wrong? Even if it sucks you get to find out for only 70.00 ,or it may be a real gem in the rough..
Man the have alot of homage's i wonder if they are junk or not???

wantonebad · 31 August 2009, 06:00 AM

Its just my personal opinion but Alpha's are junk, here's a really nice MilSub Homage by Bill Yao at MKII

And here is my own Sandoz Swiss coversion using MKII parts

diablojota · 31 August 2009, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by wantonebad

Its just my personal opinion but Alpha's are junk, here's a really nice MilSub Homage by Bill Yao at MKII

That's a nice homage as well, but with regards to the Alphas, I like mine. It's been a solid watch for the price and keeps great time.

Perdu · 31 August 2009, 09:56 AM

OK, Marc, but they're not 70 bucks.

wantonebad · 31 August 2009, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Perdu

OK, Marc, but they're not 70 bucks.

Yeah but I don't have a problem with that, and as cliche as it is, its still totally true, you get what you pay for, JMHO

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Originally Posted by diablojota

That's a nice homage as well, but with regards to the Alphas, I like mine. It's been a solid watch for the price and keeps great time.

Fair enough, "junk" is a strong word and maybe unfair, again its JMHO

hhuy99 · 31 August 2009, 10:27 PM

Thank you all for your opinions. I am looking for a clean non-date design, all the Seiko seem to have a date, and the MKII are a bit pricey for a beater. The disclaimer on the Alpha's "water resistance" is a bit scary...so I think I will skip on this.

orange monster · 1 September 2009, 05:16 AM

why not just buy a fake?

diablojota · 1 September 2009, 05:19 AM

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Originally Posted by orange monster

why not just buy a fake?

Dude, that is not cool. We don't discuss fakes here at all.

Dr.B · 1 September 2009, 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by orange monster

why not just buy a fake?

Oh no....he used the "F" word

Rockrolex · 1 September 2009, 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by orange monster

why not just buy a fake?

If you want to continue a discussion of fakes, do so on another forum. We do not countenance those suggestions here.

Are we clear about that?

And that is not the best way to introduce yourself to TRF.

hhuy99 · 1 September 2009, 05:35 AM

No thanks....I already has the REAL deal. Just want a clean beater that is a tribute to the real thing, not something that degrade it.

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Originally Posted by orange monster

why not just buy a fake?

Flaxmoore · 1 September 2009, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by hhuy99

Thank you all for your opinions. I am looking for a clean non-date design, all the Seiko seem to have a date, and the MKII are a bit pricey for a beater. The disclaimer on the Alpha's "water resistance" is a bit scary...so I think I will skip on this.

Doesn't scare me. If you look, I'm fairly sure most watches aren't ISO2281 or ISO6425 tested- that's where Seiko gets their "Diver's 200M" from while others just give a number.

alfanator · 31 August 2009, 10:06 AM

Why not just get a Seiko 007? It homages to nothing but itself and could be had for $100 off the bay.

cody p · 31 August 2009, 12:33 PM

i'm in the 'junk' camp... get a seiko.

wantonebad · 2 September 2009, 12:34 AM

A homage piece has nothing to do with what "other" people think, it has to do with respecting the original and it is a tribute to the creator while reminding the owner of the lineage from whence it came. If anything its slightly awkward to wear, not a show off piece, because anyone who knows the particulars of an actual Military Submariner and could recognize it will know straight away its not the real deal

Flaxmoore · 2 September 2009, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by hhuy99

I am thinking of getting one to use as a beater.

http://www.alphawatchusa.com/_product_54313/The_MilSub

I inquired of Alpha as to the water resistance, and it is a legit 100M. They just haven't tested the other Subs/GMT homages yet, though they should also hit the same.

diablojota · 2 September 2009, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Flaxmoore

I inquired of Alpha as to the water resistance, and it is a legit 100M. They just haven't tested the other Subs/GMT homages yet, though they should also hit the same.

That's great! Thanks for doing that. I think this is a great looking homage for the price.

Flaxmoore · 2 September 2009, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by diablojota

That's great! Thanks for doing that. I think this is a great looking homage for the price.

I'm seriously considering getting one. It's a darn nice watch, and I like the Sub-Nato combination.

shandy · 2 September 2009, 02:02 PM

Well, this watch is far from junk, I have been following Alpha USA's progress, this is not your normal fair from China.

The have set up a few systems in place to ensure customer satisfaction including a no quibble 30 day replacement policy.

They have also been working closely with the manufacturer to ensure much higher standards of quality.

I purchased recently a watch from them and must say for the price I am very impressed with the build quality, mine even came with a timegraph sheet showing mine to be with
+7 seconds a day, not bad for a brand new $70 mechanical watch. The movement whilst not grand looks well finished and sturdy, the crown works very well and winding is buttery smooth.

Everything works as it should and quite frankly it is quite sobering to be getting so much for so little, especially when I think what I have spent on watches!

All in all from a personal user point of view I feel confident in recommending this brand, you've nothing to loose!

Oh yes, the build on mine is easily comparable to my Seiko Orange monster though the Alpha adds the convienience of a hacking hand windable movement.

I am getting one of their excellent chronographs this month as well!

Here is a video from Mark the owner of Alpha USA, it shows his honesty when he himself is suprised at the build quality and water resistance!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MA04Y...layer_embedded

diablojota · 2 September 2009, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Flaxmoore

I'm seriously considering getting one. It's a darn nice watch, and I like the Sub-Nato combination.

I am as well. I think that it is the perfect homage watch, and exactly what I would want to get for the price.

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Originally Posted by shandy

Well, this watch is far from junk, I have been following Alpha USA's progress, this is not your normal fair from China.

The have set up a few systems in place to ensure customer satisfaction including a no quibble 30 day replacement policy.

They have also been working closely with the manufacturer to ensure much higher standards of quality.

I purchased recently a watch from them and must say for the price I am very impressed with the build quality, mine even came with a timegraph sheet showing mine to be with
+7 seconds a day, not bad for a brand new $70 mechanical watch. The movement whilst not grand looks well finished and sturdy, the crown works very well and winding is buttery smooth.

Everything works as it should and quite frankly it is quite sobering to be getting so much for so little, especially when I think what I have spent on watches!

All in all from a personal user point of view I feel confident in recommending this brand, you've nothing to loose!

Oh yes, the build on mine is easily comparable to my Seiko Orange monster though the Alpha adds the convienience of a hacking hand windable movement.

I am getting one of their excellent chronographs this month as well!

Here is a video from Mark the owner of Alpha USA, it shows his honesty when he himself is suprised at the build quality and water resistance!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MA04Y...layer_embedded

Thank you for the write up and the vid post. That is very informative and very helpful. I agree, I think that this would be an excellent purchase for the price.

Flaxmoore · 3 September 2009, 04:54 AM

Okay, shifting wholly to Alphas...

What kind of accuracy can the Alpha subs get? I see that you can get the timing report for an extra $10, but what's expected out of the box?

shandy · 3 September 2009, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Flaxmoore

Okay, shifting wholly to Alphas...

What kind of accuracy can the Alpha subs get? I see that you can get the timing report for an extra $10, but what's expected out of the box?

Not sure about the Subs but mine is a consistent +7 a day. The $10 timing report is more than just getting the watch timed though. What it also ensures is that you are going to recieve the pick of the bunch

If they took one and timed it and it was not that great you would not be getting that watch so it is a little extra margin of accuracy.

These guy's are right at the begining of their project, they are working towards moving away from homages and having original designs of their own as well.

I think out of the box most people will see on average +/- 15-20 a day without going the timing route. I have found them to be very aproachable, just ask them for the one that gets the very best timing result, I am sure they will oblige you!

One thing though, if it were me and I was looking at the sub I would definately go the mil sub route, this is the first of their exclusive line and thus I think will have had extra effort put into it, the famous online auction sight gives you a myriad of reasonable bracelet options if that is what you want!
Oh yes, I have nothing to do with Alpha USA other than happy customer

Flaxmoore · 3 September 2009, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by shandy

Not sure about the Subs but mine is a consistent +7 a day. The $10 timing report is more than just getting the watch timed though. What it also ensures is that you are going to recieve the pick of the bunch

If they took one and timed it and it was not that great you would not be getting that watch so it is a little extra margin of accuracy.

These guy's are right at the begining of their project, they are working towards moving away from homages and having original designs of their own as well.

I think out of the box most people will see on average +/- 15-20 a day without going the timing route. I have found them to be very aproachable, just ask them for the one that gets the very best timing result, I am sure they will oblige you!

One thing though, if it were me and I was looking at the sub I would definately go the mil sub route, this is the first of their exclusive line and thus I think will have had extra effort put into it, the famous online auction sight gives you a myriad of reasonable bracelet options if that is what you want!
Oh yes, I have nothing to do with Alpha USA other than happy customer

Impressive. So, spend the ten bucks and ensure a good one. Good plan.

diablojota · 3 September 2009, 08:34 AM

If anyone is interested, I just got word that Alpha will be offering the timing report for free with their watches over the Labor Day weekend. I think, as a result, I will be ordering the Mil Sub this weekend. I always wanted to try a Nato, and now I can without having to do it on my Sub (which I still prefer on the bracelet) and not having to buy just a Sub head (which costs far more money). I'm sold.

shandy · 3 September 2009, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by diablojota

If anyone is interested, I just got word that Alpha will be offering the timing report for free with their watches over the Labor Day weekend. I think, as a result, I will be ordering the Mil Sub this weekend. I always wanted to try a Nato, and now I can without having to do it on my Sub (which I still prefer on the bracelet) and not having to buy just a Sub head (which costs far more money). I'm sold.

Oh no, you have just cost me the price of a milsub, I was going to wait until after the Chronograph newman

diablojota · 3 September 2009, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by shandy

Oh no, you have just cost me the price of a milsub, I was going to wait until after the Chronograph newman

Whoops! Sorry.

Well, like I said, if they offer the Newman, you can get the free timing report for that as well. They're offering it on all their watches. I haven't really checked to see what they have as I'm only interested in this particular version.

shandy · 3 September 2009, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by diablojota

Whoops! Sorry.

Well, like I said, if they offer the Newman, you can get the free timing report for that as well. They're offering it on all their watches. I haven't really checked to see what they have as I'm only interested in this particular version.

Hmm, maybe push the Newman up the list then! I was looking at some of the bracelets that I mentioned on a previous post, the rivited one would look fantastic on the milsub!

diablojota · 3 September 2009, 09:10 AM

Sorry. Correction: the Timegrapher is only for the MilSub. My mistake.

cody p · 4 September 2009, 01:02 AM

wow, this thread lasted longer than i thought it would:)

31 August 2009, 04:05 AM	#1
hhuy99 Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Real Name: Hoan Location: Canada Watch: 14060M Posts: 17	What do you think of this MilSub Homage??? I am thinking of getting one to use as a beater. http://www.alphawatchusa.com/_product_54313/The_MilSub

31 August 2009, 06:00 AM	#3
wantonebad 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: USA Watch: 126600, 116500LN Posts: 12,849	Its just my personal opinion but Alpha's are junk, here's a really nice MilSub Homage by Bill Yao at MKII And here is my own Sandoz Swiss coversion using MKII parts __________________ "I'm kind of a big deal... on a fairly irrelevant social media site that falsely inflates my fragile ego"

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wantonebad 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: USA Watch: 126600, 116500LN Posts: 12,849	A homage piece has nothing to do with what "other" people think, it has to do with respecting the original and it is a tribute to the creator while reminding the owner of the lineage from whence it came. If anything its slightly awkward to wear, not a show off piece, because anyone who knows the particulars of an actual Military Submariner and could recognize it will know straight away its not the real deal __________________ "I'm kind of a big deal... on a fairly irrelevant social media site that falsely inflates my fragile ego"

3 September 2009, 08:34 AM	#25
diablojota "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Real Name: Frank Location: Chattanooga, TN Watch: SS Submariner Date Posts: 4,042	If anyone is interested, I just got word that Alpha will be offering the timing report for free with their watches over the Labor Day weekend. I think, as a result, I will be ordering the Mil Sub this weekend. I always wanted to try a Nato, and now I can without having to do it on my Sub (which I still prefer on the bracelet) and not having to buy just a Sub head (which costs far more money). I'm sold. __________________ RTFT - Read The Friggin' Thread FcB

31 August 2009, 04:15 AM	#2
chriseskew24 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Real Name: Christopher Location: fort lauderdale Watch: Bunches Posts: 1,860	Think it looks nice and for 70.00 how could you go wrong? Even if it sucks you get to find out for only 70.00 ,or it may be a real gem in the rough.. Man the have alot of homage's i wonder if they are junk or not???

31 August 2009, 10:27 PM	#7
hhuy99 Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Real Name: Hoan Location: Canada Watch: 14060M Posts: 17	Thank you all for your opinions. I am looking for a clean non-date design, all the Seiko seem to have a date, and the MKII are a bit pricey for a beater. The disclaimer on the Alpha's "water resistance" is a bit scary...so I think I will skip on this.

1 September 2009, 05:16 AM	#8
orange monster Banned Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Wales Posts: 8	why not just buy a fake?

31 August 2009, 10:06 AM	#14
alfanator "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Seattle/Shanghai Posts: 134	Why not just get a Seiko 007? It homages to nothing but itself and could be had for $100 off the bay.

31 August 2009, 12:33 PM	#15
cody p "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Canada Watch: Air-King 114200 Posts: 2,878	i'm in the 'junk' camp... get a seiko.

2 September 2009, 02:02 PM	#20
shandy Banned Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Ian Location: canada Posts: 1,724	Well, this watch is far from junk, I have been following Alpha USA's progress, this is not your normal fair from China. The have set up a few systems in place to ensure customer satisfaction including a no quibble 30 day replacement policy. They have also been working closely with the manufacturer to ensure much higher standards of quality. I purchased recently a watch from them and must say for the price I am very impressed with the build quality, mine even came with a timegraph sheet showing mine to be with +7 seconds a day, not bad for a brand new $70 mechanical watch. The movement whilst not grand looks well finished and sturdy, the crown works very well and winding is buttery smooth. Everything works as it should and quite frankly it is quite sobering to be getting so much for so little, especially when I think what I have spent on watches! All in all from a personal user point of view I feel confident in recommending this brand, you've nothing to loose! Oh yes, the build on mine is easily comparable to my Seiko Orange monster though the Alpha adds the convienience of a hacking hand windable movement. I am getting one of their excellent chronographs this month as well! Here is a video from Mark the owner of Alpha USA, it shows his honesty when he himself is suprised at the build quality and water resistance! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MA04Y...layer_embedded

3 September 2009, 04:54 AM	#22
Flaxmoore Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Casey Location: Toledo, Ohio Watch: Alpha Milsub Posts: 704	Okay, shifting wholly to Alphas... What kind of accuracy can the Alpha subs get? I see that you can get the timing report for an extra $10, but what's expected out of the box?

3 September 2009, 09:10 AM	#29
diablojota "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Real Name: Frank Location: Chattanooga, TN Watch: SS Submariner Date Posts: 4,042	Sorry. Correction: the Timegrapher is only for the MilSub. My mistake. __________________ RTFT - Read The Friggin' Thread FcB

4 September 2009, 01:02 AM	#30
cody p "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Canada Watch: Air-King 114200 Posts: 2,878	wow, this thread lasted longer than i thought it would:)

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