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Old 17 October 2006, 04:46 AM   #1
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Seadweller help

Guys, i have owned my SD since april 2005 and has been consistently -1 sec / day for around a year or so, and over the past few months has been around +1 sec / day.
i set my watch around a week or so ago, and when i checked timing yesterday, it was around +40 seconds fast! I obvioulsy thought i had made a mistake, so reset yesterday and it was around +6 seconds fast over 24 hrs and today will be around that too!. i do understand that it is still within cosc standards but it seems very odd that it is suddenly gaining time after being so stable for so long!!
3 questions:
1) what is going on?? no history of trauma from my end adn hasnt been near any magnets!! should i send it to be checked out?
2) how long is rolex warranty.. is it 1 year or 2? ..
3) How much should i let it go fast by before sending it in for checking out?
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Old 17 October 2006, 05:02 AM   #2
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1. I don't think anyone can answer question 1 - only the RSC could perhaps.
2. I believe the Rolex warranty is 2 years.
3. Personally I would not tolerate +/-6 seconds a day, period! My threshhold is +2 seconds a day max. If it was at all slow, even -1/day I could not tolerate that either.
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Old 17 October 2006, 05:25 AM   #3
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I think you're still within the COSC specs. I'd rather have my watch be +1 than -1.

From what I know, a watch that is advancing in timing would mean lack of lubrication, but I doubt that yours falls into this category. It is a mechanical watch hence there can be variances due to temperature, changes in activity of the wearer etc.
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Old 17 October 2006, 05:49 AM   #4
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Mamas, the warranty is two years so you're ok.
I'd send it in. With out getting into the watch it's all guess work.
I had about the same thing happen with a Planet Ocean, turned out to be the hair spring--easy fix.
Rolex will regulate the watch while they have it. +6 is on the ragged edge, it's capable of a lot more.

Good luck my friend.
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Old 17 October 2006, 05:53 AM   #5
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My LV had been running +1 to +2 but is now +5, that's avg all positions. My watchmaker thinks I'm too picky to want it better, even though I know it can be done. They won't regulate it for nothing since I've had it a while, but not 2 years. They don't deem it warranty, nor do they do warranty work. I could send it to RSC but for the postage I think I can live with the +5.

OTOH if I lived near enough to RSC to walk it in, I probably would.
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Old 17 October 2006, 05:09 PM   #6
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Hi Mamas,

The warranty is definitely TWO years. Give it a few more days and keep a close check on the time fluctuations. Then take it in to your AD and have them regulate it.

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Old 17 October 2006, 11:03 PM   #7
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Good luck with it, mamas. Let us know how it turns out
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Old 18 October 2006, 01:45 AM   #8
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Hi Mamas,

The warranty is definitely TWO years. Give it a few more days and keep a close check on the time fluctuations. Then take it in to your AD and have them regulate it.

Good luck - JJ
So Authorized Dealers can regulate the watches? Why did I think that only an RSC would do this?
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Old 18 October 2006, 02:30 AM   #9
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So Authorized Dealers can regulate the watches? Why did I think that only an RSC would do this?
An AD with an authorized Rolex repair guy can regulate a watch. Doesn't take very long. I recently had a vintage GMT regulated at an AD.
Some ADs, in my experience, are a bit reluctant if the watch is under warranty for some reason.
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Old 18 October 2006, 03:00 AM   #10
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So Authorized Dealers can regulate the watches? Why did I think that only an RSC would do this?
Only if the AD has an official watchmaker on hand. Some ADs don't...and that becomes a pain in the butt 'cause they have to send the watch away to an RSC.

For example, here in Auckland we have TWO Rolex ADs. Mansor's is huge and has a full-fledged workshop on his mezzanine floor with two top-notch watchmakers. So he's an official sales outlet as well as an official sales service centre.

The other AD is only a sales outlet. So if you buy from him and have a problem, the watch is sent away to Melbourne RSC for repairs.

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Old 18 October 2006, 07:12 AM   #11
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Only if the AD has an official watchmaker on hand. Some ADs don't...and that becomes a pain in the butt 'cause they have to send the watch away to an RSC.
Heh, the Beverly Hills RSC is 2 blocks from me office!
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If your watch has a 2-year warranty and after 23 months it is running just fine, would you be able to send it in for a free inspectioin under warranty just for a check up, or does something actually have to be wrong with it?
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Old 18 October 2006, 03:59 AM   #13
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If your watch has a 2-year warranty and after 23 months it is running just fine, would you be able to send it in for a free inspectioin under warranty just for a check up, or does something actually have to be wrong with it?
Legally, I guess you could....but quite frankly, if my watch was running fine after 23 months, I wouldn't want anyone fiddling/farting around with it!!
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Old 18 October 2006, 11:14 PM   #15
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Okay, Peter (padi) and I have both experience this with our Sea Dwellers, and in both our cases it happened after moving from Southeast Asia to a cooler climate.

I never got a satisfactory answer to why this happened, though - after all, the movement is supposed to have been tested between zero and 45 degrees celsius.

However, I got my SD regulated twice, and my recommendation is that if you do drop it in for regulation, instruct the service personnel to hang on to the watch for as long as it takes them to be absolutely sure they got it right.

The first time I sent it in was at RSC Singapore. They did the job for me within half an hour, but within a week it went from +1 to +10. When I got home to Melbourne, I sent it in again, and this time round they regulated and adjusted it over three days. These days I'm running at about +2.

I couldn't give a definitive answer about why the regulation went off track, but to hazard a guess I would say it had something to do with the lubricant used. The SD ran fine for about a year before it started going funny, and my understanding is that it can take up to about that time for the lube to settle into a stable state. Based purely upon the time period it took for the issue to arise, the lube's my prime suspect.

In any case, let the RSC take its time regulating it and getting it right, and you should be fine - almost six months after that regulation, my watch is running spot on.
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Old 19 October 2006, 03:25 AM   #16
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Okay, Peter (padi) and I have both experience this with our Sea Dwellers, and in both our cases it happened after moving from Southeast Asia to a cooler climate.

I never got a satisfactory answer to why this happened, though - after all, the movement is supposed to have been tested between zero and 45 degrees celsius.

However, I got my SD regulated twice, and my recommendation is that if you do drop it in for regulation, instruct the service personnel to hang on to the watch for as long as it takes them to be absolutely sure they got it right.

The first time I sent it in was at RSC Singapore. They did the job for me within half an hour, but within a week it went from +1 to +10. When I got home to Melbourne, I sent it in again, and this time round they regulated and adjusted it over three days. These days I'm running at about +2.

I couldn't give a definitive answer about why the regulation went off track, but to hazard a guess I would say it had something to do with the lubricant used. The SD ran fine for about a year before it started going funny, and my understanding is that it can take up to about that time for the lube to settle into a stable state. Based purely upon the time period it took for the issue to arise, the lube's my prime suspect.

In any case, let the RSC take its time regulating it and getting it right, and you should be fine - almost six months after that regulation, my watch is running spot on.
Have to agree with James on this one...judging from my own sister's experience.

She lives in a hot, humid place like Bombay. She bought her Rolex here in Auckland last year and it was running spot-on!! Now in Bombay, she finds it running fast.

When she recently visited Hong Kong, the watch once again was running spot-on. So, obviously, the heat and humidity in Bombay is having some kind of effect on the efficient running of the movement.

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Old 19 October 2006, 06:57 AM   #17
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thanks for all the advce guys well past 48 hrs has been +4 seconds per dau which is still off what it has been in past year and a half. Since i have another 5 months warranty left.. will just keep an eye on timing.. if it does get worse will send it to rolex for checking out for sure..but if it stays at +4 secs that is just about ok for me i have 5 months to see what happens anyway
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