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PeterT · 6 September 2009, 05:49 PM

Hi,
My eldest son is contemplating buying his first Rolex but is quite impulsive. At the moment he is wanting the Sub no date as it is the most affordable sports model.
I know that he likes my GMT II Coke but that model would only be available pre owned.
He is very knowledgeable about all of the sports models and so is fully aware of all of the good and not so good bits on the various models.

He will probably end up as a teacher and so the date function would be useful and the GMT has the extra interesting complication.
If times became hard which would be the easiet to sell and which would return more of his money?
He really wants a brand new watch which is the other factor pulling him towards the Sub no date. The Sub date is available new as another option. He is not keen on the LV green bezel.
I have told him that unworn or excellent GMT watches do appear for sale.
If it were me buying it I would go for the SeaDweller, it has the date, no cyclops, very robust and not as common as the Submariner series. Only problem is that the SD is more expensive again.
Looking to the long term which do you think would be the best watch for him.

Thanks for you thoughts.

PeterT

Argojai · 6 September 2009, 06:22 PM

GMT all the way

The GMT Kid · 6 September 2009, 06:39 PM

Any of those would be an excellent first Rolex. There are no bad choices here and any of them could be expected to hold their value. If the Sub no date is what he can afford now, then go for it.

rayt · 6 September 2009, 08:38 PM

consider explorer2

Art 1 · 6 September 2009, 09:23 PM

Gmt.

SDDS · 6 September 2009, 09:35 PM

sub nd...

PeterT · 6 September 2009, 10:14 PM

Explorer 2 is not in the frame I am afraid!

Peter

Starwalker · 6 September 2009, 10:19 PM

SUB ND! classic iconic! but i would save a little longer and get a GMT-IIc!

Nicko · 6 September 2009, 10:37 PM

Sub ND all the way!

Roselló · 6 September 2009, 10:52 PM

Hello Peter, ......... go for the SeaDweller 16600, it has the date, no cyclops, very robust and as you said, not very common as the Submariner... Can't go wrong with the other models.

Andad · 6 September 2009, 11:15 PM

Hi Peter,

IMO (while this might sound boring) the Sub date might be worth considering.
I prefer the triplock to the twinlock.

TSW · 6 September 2009, 11:16 PM

Like others said SD or GMTc.

Bimmernate · 7 September 2009, 12:08 AM

ND, or SD, I like SDs

barstoolman · 7 September 2009, 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bimmernate

ND, or SD, I like SDs

That's the ticket!!!!

Brushpup · 7 September 2009, 12:12 AM

Why not a "coke" like dads or other 16710? You could find a BNIB watch, or very close to it from one of our sellers here. Even if it were mint/slightly worn/barely worn this might do the trick. I mean if he likes your.........why not? There are some great buys that still appear avalible here.

PhilM · 7 September 2009, 12:17 AM

Sub ND for me

Rebel · 7 September 2009, 12:17 AM

Sub ND....start with a classic.

chriseskew24 · 7 September 2009, 12:30 AM

Sub 16610. best of all worlds Classic style with a date function. You can find them on here pre loved for between 3000.00 /no box or papers to around 3600.00 box and papers.

CKLinLA · 7 September 2009, 01:27 AM

Sub ND
Between the two, you gotta go with the classic.

IT-guy · 7 September 2009, 01:34 AM

Gmt.

Abe Froman · 7 September 2009, 04:27 AM

SeaDweller 16600... No need to look past that model

WatchSmith · 7 September 2009, 01:34 AM

GMT all the way. He'll thank you for the date feature, plus it's an interesting watch.

ghormley · 7 September 2009, 01:55 AM

sub date or seadweller

YuppieKid · 7 September 2009, 01:59 AM

on your coke bezeled GMT? Maybe he should get the Sub and you guys can interchange watches?

Spaniard · 7 September 2009, 02:03 AM

Let him decide on which one he want, is the best policy.

Z-Sub · 7 September 2009, 02:23 AM

the classic SD is still available in quite a few AD's and price is reasonable. I love the SD but I like the LV sub and if you get a black insert for the bezel, it might be much more attractive for some.

RobY330i · 7 September 2009, 03:09 AM

As a first Rolex and one with a high demand in the resale market, I recommend the Sub. Try to get the date feature if possible.

Armand · 7 September 2009, 03:37 AM

16610 - WITH Cyclops!

Or a pre - lover GMT II Pepsi - it´s so bright!

blueflamesg · 7 September 2009, 03:39 AM

y not buy all 3? u keep 2 while he gets 1. if he is a good boy, then slowly give it to him 1 by 1 hehe

Christiaan · 7 September 2009, 04:32 AM

GMT II Coke pre owned...

6 September 2009, 05:49 PM	#1
PeterT "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: England Watch: 16613 16710 16600 Posts: 1,021	Son's first Rolex, GMT II or Sub no date? Hi, My eldest son is contemplating buying his first Rolex but is quite impulsive. At the moment he is wanting the Sub no date as it is the most affordable sports model. I know that he likes my GMT II Coke but that model would only be available pre owned. He is very knowledgeable about all of the sports models and so is fully aware of all of the good and not so good bits on the various models. He will probably end up as a teacher and so the date function would be useful and the GMT has the extra interesting complication. If times became hard which would be the easiet to sell and which would return more of his money? He really wants a brand new watch which is the other factor pulling him towards the Sub no date. The Sub date is available new as another option. He is not keen on the LV green bezel. I have told him that unworn or excellent GMT watches do appear for sale. If it were me buying it I would go for the SeaDweller, it has the date, no cyclops, very robust and not as common as the Submariner series. Only problem is that the SD is more expensive again. Looking to the long term which do you think would be the best watch for him. Thanks for you thoughts. PeterT

6 September 2009, 09:35 PM	#6
SDDS "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Real Name: Yazan Location: Canada Posts: 4,782	sub nd... __________________ Patek Philippe 5167 Patek Philippe 5905P black dial Rolex Deepsea 116660 M series Rolex Oysterquartz 17000 N series Rolex OP 41MM 124300 Green Dial

6 September 2009, 10:19 PM	#8
Starwalker "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: aroundtheworld Watch: SS Daytona - BLACK Posts: 2,261	SUB ND! classic iconic! but i would save a little longer and get a GMT-IIc! __________________ 116520 Black - 116500 White - 116713LN - 116613LB - Panerai 389 - Chopard Mille Miglia GMT Chronograph - Chopard LUC Sport 2000 - Moser Pioneer Centre Seconds

6 September 2009, 11:15 PM	#11
Andad 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Eddie Location: Australia Watch: A few. Posts: 37,534	Hi Peter, IMO (while this might sound boring) the Sub date might be worth considering. I prefer the triplock to the twinlock. __________________ E

6 September 2009, 11:16 PM	#12
TSW "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: TSW Location: Le Brassus Watch: Rolex & AP's Posts: 27,449	Like others said SD or GMTc. __________________ AP Owners Club IG @swiss.watch.connection

6 September 2009, 06:22 PM	#2
Argojai "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Roger Location: Hong Kong Posts: 49	GMT all the way

6 September 2009, 06:39 PM	#3
The GMT Kid Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: S.F. Peninsula Watch: what you say! Posts: 815	Any of those would be an excellent first Rolex. There are no bad choices here and any of them could be expected to hold their value. If the Sub no date is what he can afford now, then go for it.

6 September 2009, 08:38 PM	#4
rayt "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Earth Watch: must be rolex Posts: 630	consider explorer2

6 September 2009, 09:23 PM	#5
Art 1 Banned Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Florida, Canada Watch: Rol/Seik/Tud/Omega Posts: 30,244	Gmt.

6 September 2009, 10:14 PM	#7
PeterT "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: England Watch: 16613 16710 16600 Posts: 1,021	Explorer 2 is not in the frame I am afraid! Peter

6 September 2009, 10:37 PM	#9
Nicko Banned Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Not here anymore Posts: 4,787	Sub ND all the way!

6 September 2009, 10:52 PM	#10
Roselló "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: SA, Texas. Watch: * { SD & DJ } * Posts: 943	Hello Peter, ......... go for the SeaDweller 16600, it has the date, no cyclops, very robust and as you said, not very common as the Submariner... Can't go wrong with the other models.

7 September 2009, 12:08 AM	#13
Bimmernate Member Join Date: May 2009 Real Name: Nate Location: USA Watch: 14060M Posts: 273	ND, or SD, I like SDs

7 September 2009, 12:12 AM	#15
Brushpup "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Real Name: Patrick Location: Texas Watch: what I'm wearing Posts: 5,943	Why not a "coke" like dads or other 16710? You could find a BNIB watch, or very close to it from one of our sellers here. Even if it were mint/slightly worn/barely worn this might do the trick. I mean if he likes your.........why not? There are some great buys that still appear avalible here. __________________ *TRFs "AFTER DARK" Bar & NightClub Patron-Founding Member* PClub # 10 74,592 The safest place for your watch is on your wrist.

7 September 2009, 12:17 AM	#16
PhilM "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Real Name: Phil Location: London Watch: Sea-Dweller Posts: 1,765	Sub ND for me

7 September 2009, 12:17 AM	#17
Rebel "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Dr Mark R Nail Location: New Albany Watch: Tudor Sub 75090 Posts: 8,254	Sub ND....start with a classic. __________________ ------------------------------- Member of the Nylon Nation

7 September 2009, 12:30 AM	#18
chriseskew24 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Real Name: Christopher Location: fort lauderdale Watch: Bunches Posts: 1,860	Sub 16610. best of all worlds Classic style with a date function. You can find them on here pre loved for between 3000.00 /no box or papers to around 3600.00 box and papers.

7 September 2009, 01:27 AM	#19
CKLinLA "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Real Name: KL Location: Los Angeles Watch: Explorer II Black Posts: 1,480	Sub ND Between the two, you gotta go with the classic. __________________ Explorer II 1655; Day Date 1803; Submariner 14060; Deepsea Sea-Dweller 116660; 5-Digit Datejusts; Perpetual Date 1500 and 15000; Pelagos FXD M25707B; Omega Dynamic 'Targa Florio' 5291.51.07; 'Good Planet' GMT 232.30.44.22.03.001; Planet Ocean 215.30.40.20.03.002; Zenith Chronomaster Original 03.3200.3600/22.M3200.

7 September 2009, 01:34 AM	#20
IT-guy "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: DC Watch: SD 126600 Posts: 195	Gmt.

7 September 2009, 04:27 AM	#21
Abe Froman "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Real Name: Jeff Location: New Mexico, USA Watch: This “Yinz” guys Posts: 13	SeaDweller 16600... No need to look past that model

7 September 2009, 01:34 AM	#22
WatchSmith 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: USA Posts: 702	GMT all the way. He'll thank you for the date feature, plus it's an interesting watch.

7 September 2009, 01:55 AM	#23
ghormley "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: TEXAS Watch: AP/Rolex Posts: 222	sub date or seadweller

7 September 2009, 01:59 AM	#24
YuppieKid "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Real Name: Brandon Location: West Coast, US Posts: 1,079	Your son seems to be a purist like me. No green bezels .. Ha ha ha . Has he tried on your coke bezeled GMT? Maybe he should get the Sub and you guys can interchange watches? __________________ Brandon

7 September 2009, 02:03 AM	#25
Spaniard Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Singapore Watch: Rolex Explorer I Posts: 64	Let him decide on which one he want, is the best policy.

7 September 2009, 02:23 AM	#26
Z-Sub 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: So Cal, USA Watch: Not a ONEWatch Man Posts: 7,383	the classic SD is still available in quite a few AD's and price is reasonable. I love the SD but I like the LV sub and if you get a black insert for the bezel, it might be much more attractive for some. __________________ SS Submariner Date "Z" SS SeaDweller "D" SS Submariner "Random" TT Blue Submariner "P" SS GMT-Master ll "M", Pepsi Pam 311, 524, 297

7 September 2009, 03:09 AM	#27
RobY330i "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Robert Location: Ottawa Watch: SS GMT IIc "V" Posts: 97	As a first Rolex and one with a high demand in the resale market, I recommend the Sub. Try to get the date feature if possible.

7 September 2009, 03:37 AM	#28
Armand Banned Join Date: Oct 2008 Real Name: Hermann Location: Middle of Europe Watch: 16710/3185 16613 B Posts: 413	16610 - WITH Cyclops! Or a pre - lover GMT II Pepsi - it´s so bright!

7 September 2009, 03:39 AM	#29
blueflamesg Banned Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: US Posts: 65	y not buy all 3? u keep 2 while he gets 1. if he is a good boy, then slowly give it to him 1 by 1 hehe

7 September 2009, 04:32 AM	#30
Christiaan "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Real Name: Christiaan Location: Fort Mill, SC Watch: 67' Breitling Navi Posts: 1,617	GMT II Coke pre owned... __________________ "Give me the luxuries of life and I will willingly do without the necessities" Frank Lloyd Wright. "For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skyward. For there you have been and there you will long to return." DaVinci

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