Laurent Ferrier thoughts? Former PP watch maker?

[mile2424]

Looking into one of these in the future and I thought I’d see if others have tried them and their thoughts? They seem to be all about the their movement and finishing and classic looks. I believe he was a former watch maker for PP. They look very nice, a bit understated, but do carry a pretty hefty price tag for their entry level pieces. Thoughts?

[scurfa]

Grab one while you still can!

[Vasco]

They are indeed gorgeous watches, very elegant, refined. LF has a great taste. Adding to that, the movement is wonderfully finished (especially the micro-rotor version) with its natural escapement. The Tourbillon is a fantastic version as well. Yes the price is high and value retention is always a sensitive topic regarding indies.

[GGGMT]

Stunnsville. Never seen or heard of anyone owning one


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[wristwatcher]

met and tried on at dubai watch week. was very very nice. as an aquanaut owner would be quite iconic to go straight there for my next piece hah

i tried on a very interesting gmt complication where the clicker button just changed the 24h hour information at the 9oclock window

[mickyd329]

I did a tour of LF in Geneva many years ago. The CEO at the time personally did the tour for us. She was very generous with her time and showed us the facility, introduced us to the watchmakers, and of course got to see the timepieces.

The entire company at the time was literally a house. Four watchmakers in all. At the time, they were producing only 400 watches per year. I don't know what they produce today. It was very obvious that quality and finishing was top priority. I dug up some old pictures from the visit.

[Moondoggy]

Originally Posted by mickyd329

I did a tour of LF in Geneva many years ago. The CEO at the time personally did the tour for us. She was very generous with her time and showed us the facility, introduced us to the watchmakers, and of course got to see the timepieces.

The entire company at the time was literally a house. Four watchmakers in all. At the time, they were producing only 400 watches per year. I don't know what they produce today. It was very obvious that quality and finishing was top priority. I dug up some old pictures from the visit.

Wow, very cool, thanks.

[dauster]

Originally Posted by mile2424

Looking into one of these in the future and I thought I’d see if others have tried them and their thoughts? They seem to be all about the their movement and finishing and classic looks. I believe he was a former watch maker for PP. They look very nice, a bit understated, but do carry a pretty hefty price tag for their entry level pieces. Thoughts?

I really liked the titanium version - still on my list - I keep thinking about it actually so maybe I should go for it.

I did not like the sports models with integrated bracelet felt a bit cheap to me compared to RO and nautilus


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[charger_vital]

Originally Posted by dauster

I did not like the sports models with integrated bracelet felt a bit cheap to me compared to RO and nautilus

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Hmmm. It doesn't feel cheap on my wrist... especially when compared to the RO and Nautilus. Actually, that's one of the reasons I went for the LF instead of the other two.

[NardinNut]

Originally Posted by charger_vital

Hmmm. It doesn't feel cheap on my wrist... especially when compared to the RO and Nautilus. Actually, that's one of the reasons I went for the LF instead of the other two.

I really wish the sport auto had micro adjustments. Other than that, I think they nailed that bracelet

[charger_vital]

Originally Posted by NardinNut

I really wish the sport auto had micro adjustments. Other than that, I think they nailed that bracelet

I agree on that. Though mine fits perfectly with their half link and my wrist doesn’t vary too much. I am a little annoyed that they promised a rubber strap when they release it but still haven’t made one. Hopefully soon.


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[dauster]

Originally Posted by charger_vital

Hmmm. It doesn't feel cheap on my wrist... especially when compared to the RO and Nautilus. Actually, that's one of the reasons I went for the LF instead of the other two.

maybe I am weird about these things but when I tried them they did not feel great at all compared to RO and nautilus. If it works for you great - that's all that matters

[charger_vital]

Originally Posted by dauster

maybe I am weird about these things but when I tried them they did not feel great at all compared to RO and nautilus. If it works for you great - that's all that matters

Different strokes. I love the nautilus as well. 5990 has been my grail for a while. But the RO to me looks much better than it feels.


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[londonpilgrim]

Originally Posted by charger_vital

Hmmm. It doesn't feel cheap on my wrist... especially when compared to the RO and Nautilus. Actually, that's one of the reasons I went for the LF instead of the other two.

The RO looks very cheap - and will also make you look like a Cocaine dealer.

[GB-man]

Originally Posted by londonpilgrim

The RO looks very cheap - and will also make you look like a Cocaine dealer.

Which at times can admittedly be fun

[Vasco]

A friend of mine's stealth version (in steel)

[Moondoggy]

Originally Posted by Vasco

A friend of mine's stealth version (in steel)

Wow movement is ALS quality. Imagine if you could have the direction of the screws in same position.

[kunlun]

Originally Posted by Moondoggy

Wow movement is ALS quality. Imagine if you could have the direction of the screws in same position.

It's a higher level of finishing than ALS generally, although the highest end of ALS may equal LF.

Aligning screw slots is not a thing in horology. Anything that looks like a set of aligned screws on a watch is not a screw (e.g. on a royal oak).

In case anyone missed it, the micro-rotor movement pictured has a natural escapement (double wheel). It's a big F'ing deal horologically that LF offers this. Yes, they also have a swiss level movement they use as well.

[vliberman]

Originally Posted by kunlun

It's a higher level of finishing than ALS generally, although the highest end of ALS may equal LF.

Aligning screw slots is not a thing in horology. Anything that looks like a set of aligned screws on a watch is not a screw (e.g. on a royal oak).

In case anyone missed it, the micro-rotor movement pictured has a natural escapement (double wheel). It's a big F'ing deal horologically that LF offers this. Yes, they also have a swiss level movement they use as well.

Why is natural escapement a big deal? Like Omega size big deal?

[kunlun]

Originally Posted by vliberman

Why is natural escapement a big deal? Like Omega size big deal?

Bigger than Omega.

The natural escapement goes back to A.L. Breguet himself. It's a double wheel escapement that provides double direct (rather than the sliding impulses of a swiss escapement) impulses and can therefore be lubricant free. It requires very fine tolerances in manufacture and assembly, higher than were possible in A.L. Breguet's time, as well as careful consideration of shock protection. It's close to an ideal mechanical escapement, but not easy to design and produce. Only a top watchmaker would attempt it; LF, FPJ, Voutilainen, Frodsham and a few others have done it.

The co-axial escapement of George Daniels (and wouldn't be possible without the help of Derek Pratt) has one direct and one indirect impulse, requiring lubricant as a micro shock absorption in the escapement. Omega, as we all know, adapted a varient of Daniel's design. It's very nice, but a step back from the natural escapement. Grand Seiko's new escapement is worth a close look as it is on the level of the co-axial.

[Oryx]

Originally Posted by kunlun

It's a higher level of finishing than ALS generally, although the highest end of ALS may equal LF.

Aligning screw slots is not a thing in horology. Anything that looks like a set of aligned screws on a watch is not a screw (e.g. on a royal oak).

In case anyone missed it, the micro-rotor movement pictured has a natural escapement (double wheel). It's a big F'ing deal horologically that LF offers this. Yes, they also have a swiss level movement they use as well.

The movement is from La Fabrique du Temps the movement maker owned by LVMH.

[kunlun]

Originally Posted by Oryx

The movement is from La Fabrique du Temps the movement maker owned by LVMH.

There's a smart way and a not smart way to understand this.

The smart way is that Laurent Ferrier and his design team are great watchmakers and came up with a movement with a natural f'ing escapement, which they then worked with La Frabrique de Temps to manufacture the mainplates and bridges, etc. and then highly finish and assemble at LF. It's possible the movement is based on a tested foundation of a movement ebauche from LFdT but expertly adapted for a natural f'ing escapement which is a huge achievement and then highly finished, assembled, etc.

The not smart way to understand is that Laruent waddles into La Frabrique du Temps showroom and points to a generic movement pre-made by them, with no work done by him whatsoever. Obviously, no one here would think that and we're not seeing kickstarter brands with generic movements bought from LFdT with a natural f'ing escapement. That would be cool, though.

[enjoythemusic]

If you love it then absolutely get it.

It's an excellent choice to expand your collection away from what everyone else shows up wearing at GTGs too. Others will surely be impressed.

[watchvert]

Tried a few of them on over the past 2-3 years.
Interesting watches. A bit pricy, but very well made and sit well on the wrist. The tourbillon version in the picture (salmon dial) is 44mm and it doesn't feel big. It is titanium.
From next year they will produce watches, mainly, in gold. The current sport line will be discontinued in titanium, namely SPORT AUTO
BLUE LCF040.T1.C1GC5.

[charger_vital]

Originally Posted by watchvert

From next year they will produce watches, mainly, in gold. The current sport line will be discontinued in titanium, namely SPORT AUTO
BLUE LCF040.T1.C1GC5.

That's interesting. The Sport Auto in titanium is amazing. Is that the feedback you got from LF? Too bad they will discontinue it. Get them while you can.

[londonpilgrim]

Originally Posted by charger_vital

That's interesting. The Sport Auto in titanium is amazing. Is that the feedback you got from LF? Too bad they will discontinue it. Get them while you can.

I have the time/date Sport Auto titanium, I would love to see it in gold.

[ChetBaker]

That green square is yummy. A square with micro rotor is still on my wish list.

[Oryx]

The brand was on the brink of being taken over by watchbox/1916 and was saves by tbe launch of the Sport Auto in titanium.

Movements are sourced from La Fabrique du Temps which is part of the LVMH group.

So it’s really only the finishing that is done in house.

Some very mixed experiences amongst collector to tread with caution!

[ChetBaker]

:-)

[bob101]

Some fantastic timepieces, wonderfully finished and a really friendly independent. I’ve been very tempted by a few limited editions recently. A really nice experience dealing with them.