Celebration Dial

[Newbie2277]

What are your thoughts on the celebration dial as far as gaining value over the long haul as a collector watch? Love it or hate it, I feel like it's going to hold it's value in the gray market and of course increase if they discontinue it...but I could also be totally wrong lol Personally, i like it. I like the fact that it's a very un-Rolex, Rolex, and that's what draws me to it. I'd be willing to pay gray market prices if i thought I would at worst, be able to sell for what i paid. Anyway, I know this is all hypothetical, just looking to see what others think.

[Easy E]

Absolutely no one can answer “future value” questions. Personally, I wouldn’t buy one at half MSRP.

[Newbie2277]

I know most people hate them lol I'm in the minority

[KatGirl]

We don’t really talk about values. We are enthusiasts. The vast majority of us buy watches to wear them, and aren’t concerned if they gain or lose value. We do get bored of some, and so sell them, usually at a loss, then put the money toward another watch we like better, at that moment. If you want to talk Rolexes, that’s fine. If you want to speculate about monetary gain or loss, you’ve come to the wrong place. I like the Celebration dial. It’s fun. If I can get one from my AD, I will. I don’t deal in the grey market, lately.

Kat


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[Scottyboy]

Originally Posted by KatGirl

We don’t really talk about values. We are enthusiasts. The vast majority of us buy watches to wear them, and aren’t concerned if they gain or lose value. We do get bored of some, and so sell them, usually at a loss, then put the money toward another watch we like better, at that moment. If you want to talk Rolexes, that’s fine. If you want to speculate about monetary gain or loss, you’ve come to the wrong place. I like the Celebration dial. It’s fun. If I can get one from my AD, I will. I don’t deal in the grey market, lately.

Kat


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Completely agree. Enthusiasts don't care about value retention or future values. It's a bonus if we decide to sell a watch and turn a profit, but it would never influence a purchase decision of mine, if I like the watch, I like the watch and that's it.

[Neil McCauley]

Originally Posted by Scottyboy

Completely agree. Enthusiasts don't care about value retention or future values. It's a bonus if we decide to sell a watch and turn a profit, but it would never influence a purchase decision of mine, if I like the watch, I like the watch and that's it.

I disagree there, personally. A lot of enthusiasts still care about the value retention and future potential value/collectibility of pieces. It's just that value is a taboo topic in these parts. Everyone likes to pretend it doesn't matter, but realistically, there's probably only a very small percentage of high-net-worth individuals with us here who truly don't care at all.

I love my watches, all of them, for all their nuances, details, everything they represent to me, and how they make me feel; however, if their value collapsed tomorrow and they were suddenly worthless, I, for one, would be a bit disappointed, to say the least. I'm fairly sure I'm not alone there.

It's the risk we take, I guess, and it's why I prefer only to pay retail and refuse to go down the grey market route. I should add - I've only ever sold 2 Rolex's to help fund me starting my business. I bought them back after a few years (at retail... again lol)

[Scottyboy]

Originally Posted by Neil McCauley

I disagree there, personally. A lot of enthusiasts still care about the value retention and future potential value/collectibility of pieces. It's just that value is a taboo topic in these parts. Everyone likes to pretend it doesn't matter, but realistically, there's probably only a very small percentage of high-net-worth individuals with us here who truly don't care at all.

I love my watches, all of them, for all their nuances, details, everything they represent to me, and how they make me feel; however, if their value collapsed tomorrow and they were suddenly worthless, I, for one, would be a bit disappointed, to say the least. I'm fairly sure I'm not alone there.

It's the risk we take, I guess, and it's why I prefer only to pay retail and refuse to go down the grey market route. I should add - I've only ever sold 2 Rolex's to help fund me starting my business. I bought them back after a few years (at retail... again lol)

Well that's where you and I differ then. I don't connect the monetary value to the enjoyment of my watches at all. If I woke up tomorrow and all mechanical watches were suddenly worthless, then all that presents to me is an opportunity to obtain more at a reduced cost.

The money I’ve spent on my watches in my eye is spent, gone. If I need to sell in the future, then it’s a bonus I’ll get something for them.

FWIW, I enjoy some cheap Seikos as much as I do my Rolex.

[Driver8]

Originally Posted by Scottyboy

Well that's where you and I differ then. I don't connect the monetary value to the enjoyment of my watches at all. If I woke up tomorrow and all mechanical watches were suddenly worthless, then all that presents to me is an opportunity to obtain more at a reduced cost.

The money I’ve spent on my watches in my eye is spent, gone. If I need to sell in the future, then it’s a bonus I’ll get something for them.

FWIW, I enjoy some cheap Seikos as much as I do my Rolex.

100% with you on that one.

To me, buying a watch is like buying a holiday, or buying an expensive meal - i.e. it's a sunk cost, paying for something I enjoy. You never get any "resale value" from a nice meal or a holiday, and that's exactly the same as my feelings when it comes to watches. I buy what I can afford, and I GENUINELY couldn't care less about resale values.

I think these kind of discussions really highlight those who came to watches via Rolex and have remained with Rolex, and those of us who have come to watches via many different brands. Those of us who started out buying different brands quickly realised that as soon as the till receipt is rung up you've lost money: "resale value" just isn't a consideration/concern.

But obviously I appreciate that everyone is different with their own motivations.

Oh and to the OP's original question/post, I personally think the Celebration dial is hideous and not something I'd wear even if I was gifted one. But again, each to their own.

[espanol]

Originally Posted by Neil McCauley

I love my watches, all of them, for all their nuances, details, everything they represent to me, and how they make me feel; however, if their value collapsed tomorrow and they were suddenly worthless, I, for one, would be a bit disappointed, to say the least. I'm fairly sure I'm not alone there.

You may not be alone, but I certainly wouldn't share that same sentiment.

I have a laundry list of 4 and 5-digit Rolex that I'd love to buy. If 'values' collapsed overnight I'd be as happy as a clam. First purchase would be a 16610LV, followed moments later by a 16710. While at it, I'd scoop up a 1016. Wouldn't that be great?

[Cambo]

Originally Posted by Neil McCauley

I disagree there, personally. A lot of enthusiasts still care about the value retention and future potential value/collectibility of pieces. It's just that value is a taboo topic in these parts. Everyone likes to pretend it doesn't matter, but realistically, there's probably only a very small percentage of high-net-worth individuals with us here who truly don't care at all.

I love my watches, all of them, for all their nuances, details, everything they represent to me, and how they make me feel; however, if their value collapsed tomorrow and they were suddenly worthless, I, for one, would be a bit disappointed, to say the least. I'm fairly sure I'm not alone there.

It's the risk we take, I guess, and it's why I prefer only to pay retail and refuse to go down the grey market route. I should add - I've only ever sold 2 Rolex's to help fund me starting my business. I bought them back after a few years (at retail... again lol)

[scooba]

Originally Posted by katgirl

we don’t really talk about values. We are enthusiasts. The vast majority of us buy watches to wear them, and aren’t concerned if they gain or lose value. We do get bored of some, and so sell them, usually at a loss, then put the money toward another watch we like better, at that moment. If you want to talk rolexes, that’s fine. If you want to speculate about monetary gain or loss, you’ve come to the wrong place. I like the celebration dial. It’s fun. If i can get one from my ad, i will. I don’t deal in the grey market, lately.

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[77T]

So many dislike it that I'm sure it'll be a future winner in the value game 40 years from now.

And the people in 2084 will be saying "Whasupp? How Dey not pwn dees exotic?"


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[padi56]

Originally Posted by 77T

So many dislike it that I'm sure it'll be a future winner in the value game 40 years from now.

And the people in 2084 will be saying "Whasupp? How Dey not pwn dees exotic?"


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Have to agree hype sells watches today as many buy the hype to wear it not my cup of tea and would never buy one at any price.

[ArtNouveau]

I like it and have asked for one, but not with any thoughts to “value.”
If I get one for MSRP from the AD I will wear it along with my others. If I don’t, I won’t get one, no reseller price for me.

[BlondesNwatches]

I liked it and asked for one the day it came out. I liked how it was fun and pretty polarizing from the typical watch Rolex would release. It remains to be seen if I’ll get one.

[Newbie2277]

All very good points, and I realize this is an "enthusiast" community, however I still like to have an idea if my thousands of dollar purchase is likely to hold value or lose value. Especially since I have no chance of getting one at MSRP. That's just my personality. I like the watch, but honestly I would only justify dropping that kind of money on ANY watch that I like, if I think it's a good value. Same thing with cars, I like Porsche, but I got one because it holds it's value. Maybe I'm crazy lol Anyway, just tossing around getting one...we shall see.

[Newbie2277]

Originally Posted by BlondesNwatches

I liked it and asked for one the day it came out. I liked how it was fun and pretty polarizing from the typical watch Rolex would release. It remains to be seen if I’ll get one.

Exactly! That's what draws me to it, it's not your typical Rolex. It's quirky, fun, and I enjoy looking at the dial. It's fun to not be so serious all of the time and that's what this represents to me...a serious brand, having fun!

[JSCP]

Please , value is part of consideration, it’s not a big deal if it’s important to you. Each person buys a watch they like and if he needs to sell, trade later, that’s your choice. At that moment, value it’s good to have as might help with next purchase, whether it’s another watch or something else or just want cash. It’s your own choice.

Celebration is actually great. It’s fun and I get many many compliments even if some don’t know it’s Rolex .

Those that hate it, don’t have to buy or worry about it l, or its price.

[Newbie2277]

Originally Posted by JSCP

Please , value is part of consideration, it’s not a big deal if it’s important to you. Each person buys a watch they like and if he needs to sell, trade later, that’s your choice. At that moment, value it’s good to have as might help with next purchase, whether it’s another watch or something else or just want cash. It’s your own choice.

Celebration is actually great. It’s fun and I get many many compliments even if some don’t know it’s Rolex .

Those that hate it, don’t have to buy or worry about it l, or its price.

Yes, thank you!! My setiments exactly. I'm always aware when posting about value here that I'll get the occasional, "we don't care about value, we just like Rolex" reply, and that's fine. You do you and I'll do me. Nice to see someone like yourself understands my perspective. Of course I like the watch, but that's just not where my thought process ends when making pricey (to me) purchases.

[JSCP]

Originally Posted by Newbie2277

Yes, thank you!! My setiments exactly. I'm always aware when posting about value here that I'll get the occasional, "we don't care about value, we just like Rolex" reply, and that's fine. You do you and I'll do me. Nice to see someone like yourself understands my perspective. Of course I like the watch, but that's just not where my thought process ends when making pricey (to me) purchases.

Hope you get one an enjoy it!

[Watchdog]

I don’t know about the vast majority, but I imagine plenty of people on the forum do care whether a watch gains or loses value. People here didn’t earn their own money by not being wise investors or prudent in some manner, so it would seem that a lot keep an eye on the watch market—whether their intention is to keep the watches for themselves or pass treasured timepieces on to their children (as I do). The Celebration dial is a divisive watch that is a hit or miss; some love and some don’t. As for future value, it’s hard to say. The SS Daytona couldn’t be given away at first and now it’s the most desirable Rolex. The Hulk? Sat forever in display cases and now fetches a considerable premium. Don’t know what the future holds but . . .

Ultimately, I would only buy a watch if you really love the watch and want to wear it, not as an investment because, as for that, no one knows.

[Newbie2277]

Originally Posted by Watchdog

I don’t know about the vast majority, but I imagine plenty of people on the forum do care whether a watch gains or loses value. People here didn’t earn their own money by not being wise investors or prudent in some manner, so it would seem that a lot keep an eye on the watch market—whether their intention is to keep the watches for themselves or pass treasured timepieces on to their children (as I do). The Celebration dial is a divisive watch that is a hit or miss; some love and some don’t. As for future value, it’s hard to say. The SS Daytona couldn’t be given away at first and now it’s the most desirable Rolex. The Hulk? Sat forever in display cases and now fetches a considerable premium. Don’t know what the future holds but . . .

Ultimately, I would only buy a watch if you really love the watch and want to wear it, not as an investment because, as for that, no one knows.

Totally hear you. It's so interesting reading about past models that you literally couldn't give away and are now top collectibles. Keeps things fun and interesting for sure!

[996marty]

The celebration dial is one that I like I’m clearly in the minority. As for collector watch buy it because you like it. If you want to make money maybe invest that money in something else

[joli160]

Nobody has a crystal ball

[Newbie2277]

Originally Posted by 996marty

The celebration dial is one that I like I’m clearly in the minority. As for collector watch buy it because you like it. If you want to make money maybe invest that money in something else

When it first came out, I wasn't too sure, but man has it grown on me. The more people that hate it, the more i love it lol Seeing some of these high-resolution photos that make it almost as if you're seeing it in person, it's a striking watch in my opinion and the psychology behind it is even more intriguing.

[KatGirl]

Originally Posted by 996marty

The celebration dial is one that I like I’m clearly in the minority. As for collector watch buy it because you like it. If you want to make money maybe invest that money in something else

I know it’s a polarizing dial, but I’d guess more people like it, than not. We should do a pole. I don’t know how to set one up, but someone should start one. It would be interesting to see if I’m right. I think I’ve noticed more enthusiasm, than disdain, for this dial.

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[fsprow]

[QUOTE=KatGirl;13293662]We should do a pole.

Kat

Kat, are you a pole dancer?
(Know I shouldn’t have said that)

[Actor07]

Poll posted on the Celebration Dial

[KatGirl]

[QUOTE=fsprow;13294016]

Originally Posted by KatGirl

We should do a pole.

Kat

Kat, are you a pole dancer?
(Know I shouldn’t have said that)

I didn’t notice until today that I misspelled that. Funny, because I’m usually an excellent speller. I can’t even blame autocorrect. Oh, and Yes , I was a pole dancer, in my youth.

Kat


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[TikTok]

[QUOTE=KatGirl;13294526]

Originally Posted by fsprow

I didn’t notice until today that I misspelled that. Funny, because I’m usually an excellent speller. I can’t even blame autocorrect. Oh, and Yes , I was a pole dancer, in my youth.

Kat


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