The Rolex Forums   The Rolex Watch

ROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEX


Go Back   Rolex Forums - Rolex Forum > Other (non-Rolex) Watch Topics > Audemars Piguet Discussion Forum

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 18 September 2024, 10:12 PM   #1
Octagon Guy
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2023
Location: Asia
Posts: 239
VIP Status

Just had a gathering with my cousin and his bunch of AP fanatic friends. Their individual collection ranges from 5 pieces to 16 pieces each.

I'm shocked to learn from their sharing with me, a newbie to AP, that to be a VIP of AP, not only do we have to clock a minimum spent amount (nothing surprising here) but also have to maintain a minimum spend annually to remain as one (this is what caught me hard).

Can anyone here attest to this? If it's true, it'll be a real challenge. To clock a minimum spending to be considered one might be achievable to many whose journey are new but to maintain spending after those who already achieved that status in the long run, might not be viable as they already owned most of the references they are after.
Octagon Guy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 18 September 2024, 10:20 PM   #2
hellofromthebay
"TRF" Member
 
hellofromthebay's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2020
Location: San Francisco
Posts: 630
What is the minimum spend?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
hellofromthebay is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 18 September 2024, 10:30 PM   #3
brandrea
2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member
 
brandrea's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Real Name: Brian (TBone)
Location: canada
Watch: es make me smile
Posts: 77,932
Interesting. I’m curious what they said the spend is …
brandrea is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 18 September 2024, 10:48 PM   #4
S’portEye
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: May 2020
Location: Shreveport
Posts: 1,406
You left out the most important part. What is the minimum yearly spend?
S’portEye is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 18 September 2024, 11:22 PM   #5
RolexADreal
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Paris
Watch: Patek Chrono Perp
Posts: 208
i am one of "those" and i haven't spent millions nor i spend hundreds every year.... But i am categorised as VIP on AP system....

I simply buy what i like, sometimes 2-3 pieces per year, sometimes 0... So don't think there is a definite answer... and regarding my VIP status (which i am far from being for real), it's all about how your sales representative wants to push you....
__________________
First watch was a Submariner i received for my 18th… haven’t stopped collecting since… 30++ pieces later i own a few Rolexes, APs, PPs, IWC, Cartier, Breguet, JLC and more… Still enjoying
RolexADreal is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 18 September 2024, 11:33 PM   #6
Octagon Guy
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2023
Location: Asia
Posts: 239
Quote:
Originally Posted by RolexADreal View Post
i am one of "those" and i haven't spent millions nor i spend hundreds every year.... i siply buy what i like, sometimes 2-3 pieces per year, sometimes 0... So don't think there is a definite answer... and regarding my VIP status (which i am far from being for real), it's all about how your sales representative wants to push you....
Sorry but your post is abit confusing to me. So are you considered a VIP or no?
Octagon Guy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 18 September 2024, 11:58 PM   #7
RolexADreal
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Paris
Watch: Patek Chrono Perp
Posts: 208
Quote:
Originally Posted by Octagon Guy View Post
Sorry but your post is abit confusing to me. So are you considered a VIP or no?
i don' t consider myself VIP, AP system does
__________________
First watch was a Submariner i received for my 18th… haven’t stopped collecting since… 30++ pieces later i own a few Rolexes, APs, PPs, IWC, Cartier, Breguet, JLC and more… Still enjoying
RolexADreal is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19 September 2024, 02:00 AM   #8
Octagon Guy
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2023
Location: Asia
Posts: 239
Quote:
Originally Posted by RolexADreal View Post
i don' t consider myself VIP, AP system does
How do you know AP recognise you as their VIP? Do they tell you upfront? And can you see it anywhere in your online profile?
Octagon Guy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19 September 2024, 02:05 AM   #9
RolexADreal
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Paris
Watch: Patek Chrono Perp
Posts: 208
Quote:
Originally Posted by Octagon Guy View Post
How do you know AP recognise you as their VIP? Do they tell you upfront? And can you see it anywhere in your online profile?
No... i saw it on their laptop but perhaps i was not supposed to see it... nobody ever told me....

Also i can see whenever i visit a boutique which is not my main one and they check the system they welcome me with a special smile...
__________________
First watch was a Submariner i received for my 18th… haven’t stopped collecting since… 30++ pieces later i own a few Rolexes, APs, PPs, IWC, Cartier, Breguet, JLC and more… Still enjoying
RolexADreal is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19 September 2024, 02:06 AM   #10
lucasalce
"TRF" Member
 
lucasalce's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2021
Location: The world
Posts: 148
When you ask for a new wishlist item, they bring out an iPad to update your profile. That would be an oppotunity to see if you have a status.
lucasalce is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 19 September 2024, 02:08 AM   #11
Vivalas
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Real Name: Stephen
Location: UK
Watch: AP
Posts: 2,645
Calling the ‘capo di tutti capo’ or in this case ‘whale of all whales’ . . . .

Mr Big GW44

He decides who goes on the VIP list - below him obvious
Vivalas is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 18 September 2024, 11:31 PM   #12
Octagon Guy
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2023
Location: Asia
Posts: 239
These guys also didn't have any concrete figure. Probably only AP knows. There's a few guys in the group who has a minimum spent history of USD400K or more and they've been receiving birthday and festive gifts. But none yet to be invited for corporate events. Even for my cousin who has the biggest collection of 16 pieces.
Octagon Guy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19 September 2024, 06:58 AM   #13
PP&AP
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2022
Location: US
Watch: 15407
Posts: 92
Quote:
Originally Posted by Octagon Guy View Post
These guys also didn't have any concrete figure. Probably only AP knows. There's a few guys in the group who has a minimum spent history of USD400K or more and they've been receiving birthday and festive gifts. But none yet to be invited for corporate events. Even for my cousin who has the biggest collection of 16 pieces.
I think this helps show spend is important, but relationship with SA can trump spending. I've been invited to a few events, and my spend history is much smaller than your cousins. On the flip side, I tend to get the standard holiday gifts instead of the special ones we see others on this board receive. I'll take the events any day!
PP&AP is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19 September 2024, 01:28 AM   #14
Steele
"TRF" Member
 
Steele's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2023
Location: Florida
Watch: All of them
Posts: 780
I wanna spend $$$ lol buying AP's
Steele is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19 September 2024, 01:38 AM   #15
Ichiran
2024 Pledge Member
 
Ichiran's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Real Name: Michael
Location: Near beach
Watch: PB1967
Posts: 8,158
I yearn to be a VIP at AP so that I can ask for a 16202ST.
Ichiran is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19 September 2024, 08:26 AM   #16
Horsin’ Around
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2019
Location: Northeast
Posts: 112
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ichiran View Post
I yearn to be a VIP at AP so that I can ask for a 16202ST.

If someone was allocated a 16202ST does that mean they are a VIP at AP?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Horsin’ Around is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19 September 2024, 08:33 AM   #17
Steele
"TRF" Member
 
Steele's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2023
Location: Florida
Watch: All of them
Posts: 780
Quote:
Originally Posted by Horsin’ Around View Post
If someone was allocated a 16202ST does that mean they are a VIP at AP?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
I would say YES! 16202 any, 15202 any, Black Ceramic RO's any, Openworks 41mm, 15510st these are the monsters, Then of course the Grails like the John Mayer
Steele is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27 September 2024, 03:05 PM   #18
gauwow
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: May 2019
Location: Tokyo
Posts: 43
Quote:
Originally Posted by Steele View Post
I would say YES! 16202 any, 15202 any, Black Ceramic RO's any, Openworks 41mm, 15510st these are the monsters, Then of course the Grails like the John Mayer
VIP status for a 16202st . Nope. Def not where I live which has a boutique. I got my allocation last year after 4 purchases but I don’t get invited to events or receive any gifts. I did get that huge AP book when I asked.
gauwow is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28 September 2024, 04:50 PM   #19
Steele
"TRF" Member
 
Steele's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2023
Location: Florida
Watch: All of them
Posts: 780
Quote:
Originally Posted by gauwow View Post


VIP status for a 16202st . Nope. Def not where I live which has a boutique. I got my allocation last year after 4 purchases but I don’t get invited to events or receive any gifts. I did get that huge AP book when I asked.
I was just in Tokyo about a month ago and hit the house and Boutique in Ginza and the AP Lab. What a great time. Yeah you’re lucky to have all of that. The crazy thing is that Japan at least Tokyo is a very high consumption market. I had no idea so I can imagine that getting offered anything is very competitive for sure. I did see lots of vips roll into the locations
Steele is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19 September 2024, 10:47 AM   #20
mickyd329
"TRF" Member
 
mickyd329's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Real Name: Mike
Location: Socal
Watch: AP/PP/Rolex
Posts: 2,040
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ichiran View Post
I yearn to be a VIP at AP so that I can ask for a 16202ST.

Michael,


You are VVIP at all of the other brands you collect except AP. I find that crazy!
__________________
PP 5205G-013/ PP 5212A / AP 15416CE /26574 st QP/ AP 50th 16202st /AP 15500st Black / AP 26405CE / AP 77350CE / AP 15551st / AP 67540sk / Rolex 116500 Panda / Rolex 126710 BLRO / Rolex 126610LV Green / Rolex 16570 Black/ Rolex 116300 Blue / Rolex 126710 BLNR / Rolex 126710 GRNR
mickyd329 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19 September 2024, 12:35 PM   #21
Ichiran
2024 Pledge Member
 
Ichiran's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Real Name: Michael
Location: Near beach
Watch: PB1967
Posts: 8,158
Quote:
Originally Posted by mickyd329 View Post
You are VVIP at all of the other brands you collect except AP. I find that crazy!
My AD treats me well though they don't retail AP anymore. That said, I thoroughly enjoyed your thread on the visit to Le Brassus

I would love to visit AP on my own too, after hearing positive feedback from others. Plus I can get to visit other manufacturers around the region.
Ichiran is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19 September 2024, 11:33 AM   #22
Nova1
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2022
Location: Virginia
Posts: 127
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ichiran View Post
I yearn to be a VIP at AP so that I can ask for a 16202ST.
For once the status is bestowed upon thee, thou heart shall fill with merry and glee.
And thine wrist shall shine for the whole world to see.
SH
Nova1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19 September 2024, 02:11 AM   #23
Steele
"TRF" Member
 
Steele's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2023
Location: Florida
Watch: All of them
Posts: 780
Hello @conkers where are you!!!!
Steele is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19 September 2024, 05:33 AM   #24
conkers
"TRF" Member
 
conkers's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Real Name: Roger
Location: Hong Kong
Watch: Too many!
Posts: 6,116
I don’t believe there’s any hard and fast rules around this and varies from market to market but I think it is safe to assume there are multiple tiers and spend is only one criteria (albeit an important one).
__________________
IG: @conkers1971
Revolution Video Feature: https://www.revolution.watch/collect...f-conkers1971/
conkers is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19 September 2024, 06:02 AM   #25
Pfang56
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: New York City
Posts: 164
Quote:
Originally Posted by conkers View Post
I don’t believe there’s any hard and fast rules around this and varies from market to market but I think it is safe to assume there are multiple tiers and spend is only one criteria (albeit an important one).

Conkers is definitely the source here and is god tier :)

Reinforcing the fact that I understand cumulative spend is important, as well as diversity of collection, and engagement in events / visits (especially Le Brassus). I also heard bringing family members along (your spouse, your kids, etc) is also a plus and helps.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Pfang56 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 19 September 2024, 08:34 AM   #26
Steele
"TRF" Member
 
Steele's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2023
Location: Florida
Watch: All of them
Posts: 780
Quote:
Originally Posted by conkers View Post
I don’t believe there’s any hard and fast rules around this and varies from market to market but I think it is safe to assume there are multiple tiers and spend is only one criteria (albeit an important one).
The legend has entered the chat!!!
Steele is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19 September 2024, 09:11 AM   #27
Emery
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2020
Location: Aus
Posts: 434
Considering the current retail prices of AP watches, not hard to maintain the annual spend by just purchasing 1-2 watches every year.
Emery is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19 September 2024, 09:26 AM   #28
hellofromthebay
"TRF" Member
 
hellofromthebay's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2020
Location: San Francisco
Posts: 630
What really matters, is if you are a VVIP. That’s how I’ve heard the owner of a major Boutique categorize celebrities


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
hellofromthebay is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19 September 2024, 10:45 AM   #29
mickyd329
"TRF" Member
 
mickyd329's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Real Name: Mike
Location: Socal
Watch: AP/PP/Rolex
Posts: 2,040
I don't know exactly at what spend history you are classified as a VIP. I'm don't think there is a hard number. It's more likely based on the number of boutique purchases and variety of the collection. I do know that they expect around 2 purchases a year from such clients on average or 1 BIG one per year. Again, nothing concrete I think. I guess if you get invited to AP events you are a step above the average client. If you also got difficult allocations like QP's OW, Jumbo's, and such, you are somewhat of a VIP as you have gone through the allocation approval process through AP Corporate. If you get offered pieces like a JM, Scott, Blue CE QP, or OW CE QP, you are definitely VVIP level or higher. If they offer your MR, you KNOW you are VVVIP. lol..

If you get invited to Le Brassus, you are somewhere in the upper tier of clients. There is a differentiation there too though. I was invited to a 2 day trip to Le Brassus recently, but there is a member here that just got back from a week long trip the week after me where I believe they took him and his wife to all of the AP facilities including Geneva and LeCocle where the high complications are made. I won't say who as he has not posted about his trip, but he would be considered at least VVIP IMO.

@Conkers is definitely VVVIP level too.
__________________
PP 5205G-013/ PP 5212A / AP 15416CE /26574 st QP/ AP 50th 16202st /AP 15500st Black / AP 26405CE / AP 77350CE / AP 15551st / AP 67540sk / Rolex 116500 Panda / Rolex 126710 BLRO / Rolex 126610LV Green / Rolex 16570 Black/ Rolex 116300 Blue / Rolex 126710 BLNR / Rolex 126710 GRNR
mickyd329 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19 September 2024, 01:23 PM   #30
Octagon Guy
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2023
Location: Asia
Posts: 239
Quote:
Originally Posted by mickyd329 View Post
I don't know exactly at what spend history you are classified as a VIP. I'm don't think there is a hard number. It's more likely based on the number of boutique purchases and variety of the collection. I do know that they expect around 2 purchases a year from such clients on average or 1 BIG one per year. Again, nothing concrete I think. I guess if you get invited to AP events you are a step above the average client. If you also got difficult allocations like QP's OW, Jumbo's, and such, you are somewhat of a VIP as you have gone through the allocation approval process through AP Corporate. If you get offered pieces like a JM, Scott, Blue CE QP, or OW CE QP, you are definitely VVIP level or higher. If they offer your MR, you KNOW you are VVVIP. lol..

If you get invited to Le Brassus, you are somewhere in the upper tier of clients. There is a differentiation there too though. I was invited to a 2 day trip to Le Brassus recently, but there is a member here that just got back from a week long trip the week after me where I believe they took him and his wife to all of the AP facilities including Geneva and LeCocle where the high complications are made. I won't say who as he has not posted about his trip, but he would be considered at least VVIP IMO.

@Conkers is definitely VVVIP level too.
This info is very detailed.
Octagon Guy is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Wrist Aficionado

DavidSW Watches

Takuya Watches

OCWatches

Asset Appeal


*Banners Of The Month*
This space is provided to horological resources.





Copyright ©2004-2024, The Rolex Forums. All Rights Reserved.

ROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEX

Rolex is a registered trademark of ROLEX USA. The Rolex Forums is not affiliated with ROLEX USA in any way.