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Old 3 December 2024, 02:10 AM   #1
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turn o graph datejust bezel question

i have a rolex 116253 turnograph with the engine turned bezel on it

can i swap a newer fluted turnograph bezel from a 116263 on to it

or just a regular fluted datejust bezel on to it

i prefer the fluted look over the engine turned look
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Old 3 December 2024, 08:01 AM   #2
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116253 turn-o-graph? Please post an image of your watch.
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Old 3 December 2024, 11:25 AM   #3
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A 116253 is not a Turn-0-graph and doesn't have an engine turned bezel, although a 116263 is a fluted bezel TOG. Perhaps we need to regroup.
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Old 3 December 2024, 10:36 PM   #4
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A 116253 is not a Turn-0-graph and doesn't have an engine turned bezel, although a 116263 is a fluted bezel TOG. Perhaps we need to regroup.
i meant to type
16253 which is an engine turned type bezel turnograph model
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Old 4 December 2024, 02:04 AM   #5
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i meant to type
16253 which is an engine turned type bezel turnograph model
A 36mm DJ TOG from the same era is the same watch with simply a bezel change so they would exchange. The biggest problem would be sourcing one. Personally I just like to have two watches and save the hassle of changing stuff
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Old 4 December 2024, 07:57 AM   #6
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A 36mm DJ TOG from the same era is the same watch with simply a bezel change so they would exchange. The biggest problem would be sourcing one. Personally I just like to have two watches and save the hassle of changing stuff
i agree
the more the merrier
but i dont see myself ever buying another datejust
i really only wear it if im wearing a shirt and tie or a suit
which is not often for me

my submariner and my coke gmt are my daily worn watches
and every so often i will wear the polar dial explorer ii

i would rather spend the few hundread $$ that an original gold fluted bezel costs
and buy a different model rolex when im ready

but i totally understand what your saying

but as far as i know
all the TOG models from this era (16253) are all the same
right ?
meaning they are more of the “engine turned” style than an actual “fluted” bezel ?

as far as i know the fluted bezels only came on the last models of the TOG (116263)

am i correct about that ?
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Old 3 December 2024, 01:19 PM   #7
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Maybe it was just a typo by the OP.

The 5 digit TOG's did have bezel treatment that some might call engine-turned (or radial). See mine below for reference.



What I think the question might be is this:
Can one pop off that bezel above for the newer 6-digit TOG's fluted bezel?

One that looks like this:



I believe not as the underlying crystal retaining ring is different for the 6-digit models.


Anyone know that answer?


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Old 3 December 2024, 07:43 PM   #8
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Even if you could, I'd keep it original.
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Old 3 December 2024, 10:38 PM   #9
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Even if you could, I'd keep it original.
i would be keeping the watches original bezel
i just want to change the look for now
bezels are a quick swap

im not a fan of mismatched parts on watches
but for something like a quick bezel swap i dont see the harm in it if the original bezel can be put back on in a few minutes
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Old 3 December 2024, 10:34 PM   #10
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Maybe it was just a typo by the OP.

The 5 digit TOG's did have bezel treatment that some might call engine-turned (or radial). See mine below for reference.



What I think the question might be is this:
Can one pop off that bezel above for the newer 6-digit TOG's fluted bezel?

One that looks like this:



I believe not as the underlying crystal retaining ring is different for the 6-digit models.


Anyone know that answer?


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yes that was a typo

i have a turnograph 16253
its a great looking watch

I just want to try a different bezel on it for a little while
and i was thinking maybe the newer reference fluted style bezel would fit it
i cant find any info out there about it

do you think a regular datejust fluted bezel from the same era as my watch would fit ?
there really is not much info available
and i want to know for sure before i spend the money on another bezel
unfortunately this is the only datejust model that i own
all of my other rolexs are the larger “sport” models
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Old 3 December 2024, 11:03 PM   #11
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If you use a 16253 fluted swap, yes it would work. A TOG is just a DJ with a different bezel. Removal must be done correctly - are you thinking DIY?

TOG is a different assembly so you'd need to understand how to put the original back on correctly. Remember, the original is a rotating bezel.


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Old 4 December 2024, 07:54 AM   #12
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If you use a 16253 fluted swap, yes it would work. A TOG is just a DJ with a different bezel. Removal must be done correctly - are you thinking DIY?

TOG is a different assembly so you'd need to understand how to put the original back on correctly. Remember, the original is a rotating bezel.


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so i have not gotten to the point where i have removed the original bezel

but i have changed out bezel inserts on my older rolex gmt (originally a coke, but i purchased a pepsi bezel insert years ago for it and i swap them from time to time)

is the bezel removal and reinstallation any different on a TOG compared to an older gmt ?
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