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Old 9 December 2019, 07:49 PM   #31
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Old 9 December 2019, 07:53 PM   #32
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Old 9 December 2019, 08:03 PM   #33
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Old 9 December 2019, 08:04 PM   #34
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Do you have proof that Rolex has manipulated anything or broken any law?

Does Rolex make or charge anything beyond their standard wholesale profits?

Is Rolex illegally "fixing" retail prices too low to force competitors out of business?

Are they somehow inhibiting or pressuring competition?

What, exactly, would be the basis for a lawsuit against Rolex?
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There's a 3 year waiting list for the car I want. Who do I sue?

It's raining here today. The forecast said it would be dry. I must be able to sue somebody for this. The question is who?

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Old 9 December 2019, 08:32 PM   #35
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Genuine question: given the huge market manipulation that we have seen in the Rolex market, can the company be taken to court? I'm not a lawyer but I would really like to hear from people familiar with consumer protection laws in the different countries. I know that false advertising is prosecuted by the law. I know that discrimination is too. Not to talk about market manipulation.

It seems to me that the current state of the market has all this elements no? You see advertisements all around for watches that are not available. Or worse, not available to certain people but yes for others. You see non-authorized dealers manipulating the market, etc.

Can a case be made? Especially in the US/Europe? Honest intellectual discussion.
I would postulate that if compelled to do so the overwhelming majority of ADs could easily demonstrate that they have sold their ‘hot’ watches to end consumers.

A particular watch or watches (hot SS models) not being available to the average person that walks in off the street is nowhere close to the suggestion that these watches are not available period.

As for discrimination, there are protected categories which cannot be discriminated against such as age/race/religion/gender/orientation. Beyond that a retailer can refuse to sell their products if they wish. And if the watch was never displayed or advertised as available there can be no discrimination. You suffer no loss or damage by not being able to purchase something that doesn’t exist.

TLDR: there are no grounds to sue, however some lawyers will delight in taking your money to tell you the same.
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Old 9 December 2019, 08:35 PM   #36
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Old 9 December 2019, 08:55 PM   #37
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The fact that millions of people in China, Southeast Asia and India are recently able to buy Rolex watches has nothing to do with Rolex either.
15 years is not recent
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Old 9 December 2019, 09:31 PM   #38
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Old 9 December 2019, 09:36 PM   #39
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Surely all this has back fired for the AD's?
no matter where you are in the world...you walk into any Rolex AD and the cabinets are almost Empty!
its Embarrassing!
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Old 9 December 2019, 09:41 PM   #40
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Old 9 December 2019, 09:43 PM   #41
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Can't ever work, the pursuit of profit and showing off your status/advancement are driving forces in human nature, despite many 20th century regime attempts to end them. They are driving this market, not Rolex, who have always been ten steps behind and it has worked out brilliantly for them.
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Old 9 December 2019, 10:09 PM   #42
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Genuine question: given the huge market manipulation that we have seen in the Rolex market, can the company be taken to court? I'm not a lawyer but I would really like to hear from people familiar with consumer protection laws in the different countries. I know that false advertising is prosecuted by the law. I know that discrimination is too. Not to talk about market manipulation.

It seems to me that the current state of the market has all this elements no? You see advertisements all around for watches that are not available. Or worse, not available to certain people but yes for others. You see non-authorized dealers manipulating the market, etc.

Can a case be made? Especially in the US/Europe? Honest intellectual discussion.
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Old 9 December 2019, 10:22 PM   #43
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Old 9 December 2019, 10:54 PM   #44
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Can they be sued, Yes!
Chances of winning same as finding a White Daytona in the AD Display case for MSRP.
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Old 9 December 2019, 11:25 PM   #45
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Surely all this has back fired for the AD's?
no matter where you are in the world...you walk into any Rolex AD and the cabinets are almost Empty!
its Embarrassing!
Backfired?
Surely you jest.
Imagine selling a product the moment it comes in.
Oh the humanity.
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Old 9 December 2019, 11:34 PM   #46
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Old 9 December 2019, 11:37 PM   #47
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Genuine question: given the huge market manipulation that we have seen in the Rolex market, can the company be taken to court? I'm not a lawyer but I would really like to hear from people familiar with consumer protection laws in the different countries. I know that false advertising is prosecuted by the law. I know that discrimination is too. Not to talk about market manipulation.

It seems to me that the current state of the market has all this elements no? You see advertisements all around for watches that are not available. Or worse, not available to certain people but yes for others. You see non-authorized dealers manipulating the market, etc.

Can a case be made? Especially in the US/Europe? Honest intellectual discussion.


No, because it’s not Rolex is is clearly the gray market. How do I know? Because you and I can have any model on our wrists by Wednesday this week-that my friend is not a shortage. Can the individual dealers be sued for bait and switch who knows.
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Old 9 December 2019, 11:47 PM   #48
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A lawsuit takes too long. This requires immediate action.

You need to dial whine-one-one.

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Old 9 December 2019, 11:54 PM   #49
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you can sue for anything, this would be an impossible case however.
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Old 9 December 2019, 11:58 PM   #50
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Is litigation a compulsory topic in US high schools?
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Old 9 December 2019, 11:59 PM   #51
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Genuine question: given the huge market manipulation that we have seen in the Rolex market, can the company be taken to court?
What market manipulation?

Do you supply and demand?
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Old 10 December 2019, 12:34 AM   #52
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Lols, sue everybody. Porsche, Ford, Subaru, Patek, AP, Supreme, Off-White, Hermes, Adidas(Yeezy)....have a nice party in court for all these companies.
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Old 10 December 2019, 12:35 AM   #53
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If Rolex were a necessary commodity, you could probably sue them, at least in the US. It's illegal to do certain things with water, milk, gasoline, food, etc., like withholding supply or price fixing or gouging. But a Rolex is a luxury commodity and I think if you tried to bring this to a court and cried "I can't buy the Rolex that they're advertising," any judge would just laugh at you.
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Old 10 December 2019, 12:48 AM   #54
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I think I’d rather sue Home Depot. My understanding from reading the internet is they promote destructive policies towards Rolex watches and their wearers.
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Old 10 December 2019, 01:02 AM   #55
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Can they be sued? Sure.

Will anyone successfully litigate a suit against Rolex for not making enough watches? Not a chance. There's no evidence they are manipulating or falsely advertising anything. They are making watches and shipping them to ADs. Those ADs are then doing "something" with those watches. It might be selling them to customers, it might be selling them to grey dealers, who knows. The only point of potential contest would be Rolex's relationship with an AD "if" an AD was doing something shady or against their policy agreement.

Rolex is a private company. They can make as few watches as they want or as many as they want.
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Old 10 December 2019, 01:10 AM   #56
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Can Rolex be sued?

You might file...

...name Rolex USA...

...and after waiting 2 years for a hearing date...

...you get to appear...

...and the judge says...



Your request for a serious discussion will be dismissed in a NY minute.


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Old 10 December 2019, 01:11 AM   #57
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You'd have better luck suing your AD. (Better doesn't mean good....it just means better.)
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Old 10 December 2019, 01:13 AM   #58
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This thread is stupid. Let's all just go back to work.

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Old 10 December 2019, 01:18 AM   #59
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Oh, I forgot to add, apparently you can throw some bourbon companies into the mix. Have a law suit party.
Any other things going on someone is butthurt about that we can sue for....
Chik-Fil-A drive through lines are also getting rather long don't you think.
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Old 10 December 2019, 01:20 AM   #60
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