Am I the only one who didn't find Ricky Gervais' monologue that...scathing?

[daOnlyBG]

I honestly didn't think it was that "bold."

He said some jokes about Leonardo Di Caprio (which he took very well and laughed heartily) and did the same for Scorcese and his (lack of) height- who also lol'ed and even agreed.

Then there were the digs about Hollywood's "holier-than-thou" attitude, a complaint increasingly embraced (shockingly) by both ends of the political spectrum- and, I might add, a growing portion of Hollywood stars themselves. And you could hear it from the laughter of the audience itself.

So what's the big deal? He didn't say anything that's "shocking" or even "needed to be said" that no one has said already.

The only bold thing I thought he did was that Judi Dench joke- which, I might add, the audience dug into. Hell, you can even see (spoiler alert) Ellen Degeneres and her wife beaming in anticipation right before he delivered the punch line.

The Comedy Central roasts are (or, were) far, far more brutal.

[rolexryan329]

Stephen A. Smith once said, "Lets be nice, we don't have to go there. I mean, you're not wrong but you didn't have to say it".

It's just all the stuff people want to say but DONT because it wouldn't be PC and it would create criticism that could potentially ruin anyone else's career. Luckily for Ricky, he's able to say it bc he doesn't care

[Chewbacca]

It was tame. An easy $1M for Ricky.

The Comedy Central comparison doesn't apply since its on cable and one is a network family prime time show.

[superdog]

I thought it was super. I didn't watch it originally.

But enjoyed the clips I saw very much.

[Blansky]

I like Ricky Gervais and think he's a great comedian and writer, but don't forget these are media conglomerates at play here.

Get out the buzz it's going to be controversial with dozens of media outlets and hundreds of bloggers etc.

Spin Spin Spin for a month to try to crank the show's rating up.

Then more buzz buzz afterwards for the Buzzfeed, TMZ,et all crowd, and for Utube owned by Google.

It's all noise and media manipulation.

[Headshrinker]

Originally Posted by superdog

I thought it was super. I didn't watch it originally.

But enjoyed the clips I saw very much.

He was right on the mark! Uneducated and entitled asses.

[rph08]

I only saw the beginning of the show, because I left the TV playing after the football game ended. I thought the monolog was pretty funny, and then I turned the TV off as soon as the actual awards part began.

[Datejust_bass]

He said what I was thinking. He’s the only reason people watched.

[Justinmg]

Originally Posted by superdog

I thought it was super. I didn't watch it originally.

But enjoyed the clips I saw very much.

Agree

[superdog]

Originally Posted by Headshrinker

He was right on the mark! Uneducated and entitled asses.

It is shocking at how entitled some of these people appear.

And oblivious to reality all while lecturing the rest of us on how we should be living our lives.

I thought it was great that he stuck it to them a bit.

[wantonebad]

It was pretty tame by his standards, and his shock factor has worn off. Moreover they all ignored him. There was nothing earth shattering about what he said, it's just his delivery that's unique.

[Rebel]

On target.

[bdex75]

Happened to keep the TV on after 60 Minutes. And loved every minute of it. I think had it been on cable he would have teed off even more.


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[rolehex]

I enjoyed watching the highlights of it. IMO the world is too PC and he's a breath of fresh air.

[rdmlondon]

Originally Posted by superdog

It is shocking at how entitled some of these people appear.

And oblivious to reality all while lecturing the rest of us on how we should be living our lives.

I thought it was great that he stuck it to them a bit.

Here's a tweet from Stella McCartney talking about Joaquin Pheonix for those that may not have seen it....



"This man is a winner… wearing custom Stella because he chooses to make choices for the future of the planet. He has also chosen to wear this same Tux for the entire award season to reduce waste. I am proud to join forces with you... x Stella"



I'll just leave it there.....

[AK797]

He said it right at them, that was the point, these lot are so insulated and pampered and revered that not only was it a huge shock for them to have to take it while being filmed, but also good for them to see how much the public have agreed with his comments on them.

Markle and Harry have also been subjected to harsh criticisms of woke hypocrisy and they are now on the verge of stepping down as senior royals and moving to Canada.

[themast]

It was a play and most in the audience were actors. I don't think anybody was offended. To the contrary this attracted attention to the event.

[Datejust_bass]

Originally Posted by themast

It was a play and most in the audience were actors. I don't think anybody was offended. To the contrary this attracted attention to the event.

Yeah... somehow the cameras, live, know exactly when to catch Tom hanks squirming, etc. it’s not coincidence.. it’s rigged and staged . Typing this from an Apple device now. In sincerity, Apple does operate sweatshops. It’s sad.

[The Libertine]

I like Gervais in his comedies, like Extras, but not necessarily his stand-up routines.

[East Bay Rider]

Originally Posted by rdmlondon

Here's a tweet from Stella McCartney talking about Joaquin Pheonix for those that may not have seen it....



"This man is a winner… wearing custom Stella because he chooses to make choices for the future of the planet. He has also chosen to wear this same Tux for the entire award season to reduce waste. I am proud to join forces with you... x Stella"



I'll just leave it there.....

He's so brave.

[daveo5]

What makes actors and actresses think that their political opinions are more relevant then non show biz people? Personally I find it repugnant when I hear an actress spouting off on a topic, or politician. What are her qualifications to judge anyone? I can enjoy a performance by someone but please no politics. My own regard for any “A” lister stops when their performance is over. I wonder how many actresses, who’s career is in hiatus, doesn’t use their perceived fading fame, after consulting their agent of course, to grab some publicity by making a statement.


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[V25V]

Originally Posted by daveo5

What makes actors and actresses think that their political opinions are more relevant then non show biz people? Personally I find it repugnant when I hear an actress spouting off on a topic, or politician. What are her qualifications to judge anyone? I can enjoy a performance by someone but please no politics. My own regard for any “A” lister stops when their performance is over. I wonder how many actresses, who’s career is in hiatus, doesn’t use their perceived fading fame, after consulting their agent of course, to grab some publicity by making a statement.


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Agreed and so many of them do it. Those in their corner, conveniently often siding with their beliefs, say its their platform and they should use it. What a crock of nonsense.

[samson66]

Loved every minute of it. Maybe my favorite part:

"So if you do win an award tonight, don't use it as a political platform to make a political speech. You're in no position to lecture the public about anything. You know nothing about the real world. Most of you spent less time in school than Greta Thunberg. So, if you win, come up, accept your little award, thank your agent and your God and fuck off. OK?"

[Blansky]

Originally Posted by daveo5

What makes actors and actresses think that their political opinions are more relevant then non show biz people? Personally I find it repugnant when I hear an actress spouting off on a topic, or politician. What are her qualifications to judge anyone? I can enjoy a performance by someone but please no politics. My own regard for any “A” lister stops when their performance is over. I wonder how many actresses, who’s career is in hiatus, doesn’t use their perceived fading fame, after consulting their agent of course, to grab some publicity by making a statement.


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Well to begin with people in the arts are generally more liberal than some parts of the population. AND have always been far ahead of the curve on gay issues since a lot of gay people are historically involved in the arts. (Which would include fashion). When people work with other people of different ethnicities and sexual orientation the fear factor of "the other" tends to disappear which may not be seen in some parts of the country.

The arts are also generally in large urban areas which are also more liberal than rural areas.

As for using their platform, I guess it's human nature to use what you have to further things you believe in or believe are injustices.

Remember it wasn't many years ago black performers even in places like Vegas could not stay in the hotel they performed in. (See Sammy Davis Jr/Frank Sinatra)

And gay people are still discriminated against in places.

If people aren't aware, climate change is getting CRITICAL, and the apathy is unbelievable.

Most people will use any soapbox available to them as you have done here.

It's just how people are, wanting to get their points and opinions heard.

Our only recourse if it bothers us is turn it off.

[samson66]

Originally Posted by Blansky

Well to begin with people in the arts are generally more liberal than some parts of the population. AND have always been far ahead of the curve on gay issues since a lot of gay people are historically involved in the arts. (Which would include fashion). When people work with other people of different ethnicities and sexual orientation the fear factor of "the other" tends to disappear which may not be seen in some parts of the country.

The arts are also generally in large urban areas which are also more liberal than rural areas.

As for using their platform, I guess it's human nature to use what you have to further things you believe in or believe are injustices.

Remember it wasn't many years ago black performers even if places like Vegas could not stay in the hotel they performed in. (See Sammy Davis Jr/Frank Sinatra)

And gay people are still discriminated against in places.

Most people will use any soapbox available to them as you have done here.

It's just how people are, wanting to get their points and opinions heard.

Our only recourse if it bothers us is turn it off.

I'm not sure what any of this has to do with the comment you quoted? I didn't see anywhere in the post where daveo5 complained about actors being liberal politically. I believe the comment had to do more with what makes an actor's comment so important and so much more necessary than a comment from any other non-politician. They are paid to act. Why does their opinion matter more than someone who is paid to wash dishes, or paid to fix leaky pipes, or paid to do anything other than act? I don't need to hear their political comments any more than they need to hear mine. No one is sticking a microphone in my face asking my opinion on politics, why are we forced to listen their views at every interview and award show?

[Blansky]

Originally Posted by samson66

I'm not sure what any of this has to do with the comment you quoted? I didn't see anywhere in the post where daveo5 complained about actors being liberal politically. I believe the comment had to do more with what makes an actor's comment so important and so much more necessary than a comment from any other non-politician. They are paid to act. Why does their opinion matter more than someone who is paid to wash dishes, or paid to fix leaky pipes, or paid to do anything other than act? I don't need to hear their political comments any more than they need to hear mine. No one is sticking a microphone in my face asking my opinion on politics, why are we forced to listen their views at every interview and award show?

People rarely complain about opinions they agree with. I'm not saying one way or another what he believes in. None of my business.

But for actors spouting their opinions is because someone IS sticking a microphone in THEIR face.

If there was no cult of celebrity, perhaps we wouldn't have studio marketing shows like Oscars, Golden Globes, People's Choice.......et all.

[V25V]

Originally Posted by Blansky

Because someone IS sticking a microphone in THEIR face.

That doesn't make their opinion of greater value, does it? Or are you saying because there is this "award" ceremony that therefore their opinion is more valuable? Can they not just thank their co-workers, families, etc without spouting off political garbage?

[Blansky]

Originally Posted by V25V

That doesn't make their opinion of greater value, does it? Or are you saying because there is this "award" ceremony that therefore their opinion is more valuable? Can they not just thank their co-workers, families, etc without spouting off political garbage?

I don't see anything in what I said that would lead you to think I believe their opinions or causes are more valuable or not, than anyone else's.

I said it's human nature to use any soap box you are given on subjects you are passionate about. AND these televised opinions do bring about change. That's why they use them.

If the producers of these phony awards shows thought the opinions were hurting ratings they would eliminate them.

[Mandy01]

Originally Posted by daOnlyBG

I honestly didn't think it was that "bold."

He said some jokes about Leonardo Di Caprio (which he took very well and laughed heartily) and did the same for Scorcese and his (lack of) height- who also lol'ed and even agreed.

Then there were the digs about Hollywood's "holier-than-thou" attitude, a complaint increasingly embraced (shockingly) by both ends of the political spectrum- and, I might add, a growing portion of Hollywood stars themselves. And you could hear it from the laughter of the audience itself.

So what's the big deal? He didn't say anything that's "shocking" or even "needed to be said" that no one has said already.

The only bold thing I thought he did was that Judi Dench joke- which, I might add, the audience dug into. Hell, you can even see (spoiler alert) Ellen Degeneres and her wife beaming in anticipation right before he delivered the punch line.

The Comedy Central roasts are (or, were) far, far more brutal.

I think he did very well, only one a little spicy about Judy in the cats role, but you know like he said let's laugh and have a funny night, I was laughing a lot when he mentioned the Hollywood elites are not in position to lecture anyone since they live in a different world( and they actually do) kudos to Rick

[Mandy01]

Originally Posted by V25V

That doesn't make their opinion of greater value, does it? Or are you saying because there is this "award" ceremony that therefore their opinion is more valuable? Can they not just thank their co-workers, families, etc without spouting off political garbage?

Agree they take every opportunity to lecture with their socialist political crap, Like Rick said do not lecture anyone, they do not care and this Hollywood liberal elite they live in a different world. I always wonder how would they fare living in Cuba, Venezuela, North Korea and so on ...