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masterkiller · 17 April 2009, 08:52 PM

Hi all,

I have a SD 4000 (16600, Z-serie) with box, papers cert that are bought 'new' from a graydealer and it is originally from Hong Kong, now the same dealer has a M-serie 16613 (Blusey) with all the plastic still on with box, cert and papers from the biggest AD i Stockholm, e.g very good for after sales etc...

He is willing to trade me the 16613 against the 16600 for about 2000 USD, what do you think?

My view is: I can always save up to a new 16600 later (it is as you know this is cheaper than the 16613) the price is good, and it is temting for me to have Swedish papers etc....

opinions please

/masterkiller

mic6 · 17 April 2009, 09:11 PM

Swedish and chinese stamped rolex papers are exactly the same thing if the rolex is genuine...
I think +2000 usd is not too much especially if the TT blue sub is BNIB
However +1800 would sound much better to me because the SD prices are now raised
Also, the 16600 is now discontinued and i don't agree it will be that easy to buy one in the future.

That said i prefer the TT bluesy over the SD in terms of looks but that's just me

In your case I would say, keep the SD and save for a second hand bluesy

masterkiller · 17 April 2009, 09:24 PM

Attn: mic6

I know that the Swedish and chinese papers are the same, but when selling a watch in Sweden I feel that papers from this AD is somewhat security to many as the easily can go there to check, talk etc...

Also when saying 'I can always save up to a new 16600 later' i meant a new pre-used one and the preferrably a V-Serie. The SD prices has not become any higher here in Sweden from what I can see.

I absolutly love both watches but right now my economy only allows for one :-(

I am leaning towards the 16613 as I have had the SD for a year or so and it is always nice with a change :-) and I already have an Omega SMP in SS.

Ps the 16613 is BNIB DS

But I havent decided yet....

/masterkiller

mic6 · 17 April 2009, 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by masterkiller

Attn: mic6

But I havent decided yet....

/masterkiller

It seems to me that you have decided my friend

Welshwatchman · 17 April 2009, 10:34 PM

Keep the SD.

In a couple of years the SD will be worth the same as the 16613, possibly more.

Andad · 17 April 2009, 11:01 PM

Will the old TT Blue sub also be discontinued now the new one has been released?

masterkiller · 17 April 2009, 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Welshwatchman

Keep the SD.

In a couple of years the SD will be worth the same as the 16613, possibly more.

Maybe, But as I said I am planning on getting the SD again with Swedish papers and hopefully a V serial no.

/M

acce1999 · 18 April 2009, 12:52 AM

It sounds like you have made a decision already. Personally I am not into S/G at all, and find the SD to be more unique, and would therefore keep it.

Why don't you drop the Breitling and the Omega, and get BOTH the 16613 and keep the 16600? ;-)

Good luck - and post pictures if you go through the deal!

Best,

A

SLS · 18 April 2009, 01:27 AM

I would not make that trade.
Scott

tubojunk · 18 April 2009, 02:06 AM

It's not going to be as easy as you think to save up for a Sea Dweller since they are discontinued.

cdweller · 18 April 2009, 02:12 AM

If you are going to trade a watch that you will eventually just buy again, I would keep the SD and eventually buy the 16613. Although it is always nice to have a change I suppose...

padi56 · 18 April 2009, 02:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Welshwatchman

Keep the SD.

In a couple of years the SD will be worth the same as the 16613, possibly more.

Have to agree not much of a upgrade both same movement only difference a little bit of high priced gold.TT watches in reality don't hold there price in proportion, as well as most of the S.Steel Rolex.

Noonan · 18 April 2009, 02:31 AM

I'd keep the SD and get the updated sub in a few years when they're readily available and the prices are down.

seantk · 18 April 2009, 03:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SLS

I would not make that trade.
Scott

I would keep the SD also

Sean

diablojota · 18 April 2009, 03:05 AM

I'd hold onto the SD. They don't make 'em anymore and as mentioned it's the same movement just a bit of gold is the only difference.

JIM- · 18 April 2009, 04:44 AM

Keep your SD, buy the TT and hide from wife.

GOGO · 18 April 2009, 04:46 AM

TT is better

karmatp · 18 April 2009, 04:56 AM

I would much rather have the SD.

landroverking · 18 April 2009, 01:14 PM

I would guess there are a lot more TT Blue Subs out there and will be much easier to come by down the road. Late model SD with no holes are bound to be harder to replace, while I don't know the numbers produced, I just have not seen as many for sale.

Art 1 · 18 April 2009, 01:16 PM

I don't know that it's an upgrade.

Jason71 · 18 April 2009, 02:11 PM

I would stick with the 16600 myself.

JJ Irani · 18 April 2009, 02:27 PM

This one or that one......tough choice!!!

masterkiller · 20 April 2009, 07:13 PM

Hi all,

After a tough decision I have decided to keep the SD !

/masterkiller

mic6 · 20 April 2009, 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by masterkiller

Hi all,

After a tough decision I have decided to keep the SD !

/masterkiller

good! Buy a TT blue sub now

frch1104 · 20 April 2009, 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by masterkiller

Hi all,

After a tough decision I have decided to keep the SD !

/masterkiller

A wise decision!
//Fred

17 April 2009, 08:52 PM	#1
masterkiller "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Sweden Watch: Rolex, AP & PAM... Posts: 1,403	Upgrade from 16600 to 16613 Hi all, I have a SD 4000 (16600, Z-serie) with box, papers cert that are bought 'new' from a graydealer and it is originally from Hong Kong, now the same dealer has a M-serie 16613 (Blusey) with all the plastic still on with box, cert and papers from the biggest AD i Stockholm, e.g very good for after sales etc... He is willing to trade me the 16613 against the 16600 for about 2000 USD, what do you think? My view is: I can always save up to a new 16600 later (it is as you know this is cheaper than the 16613) the price is good, and it is temting for me to have Swedish papers etc.... opinions please /masterkiller __________________ Rolex - SubC... AP - Diver... Panerai - PAM380 Omega - Speedy PRO

17 April 2009, 09:11 PM	#2
mic6 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Europe Watch: 116718 green Posts: 1,944	Swedish and chinese stamped rolex papers are exactly the same thing if the rolex is genuine... I think +2000 usd is not too much especially if the TT blue sub is BNIB However +1800 would sound much better to me because the SD prices are now raised Also, the 16600 is now discontinued and i don't agree it will be that easy to buy one in the future. That said i prefer the TT bluesy over the SD in terms of looks but that's just me In your case I would say, keep the SD and save for a second hand bluesy __________________

17 April 2009, 09:24 PM	#3
masterkiller "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Sweden Watch: Rolex, AP & PAM... Posts: 1,403	Attn: mic6 I know that the Swedish and chinese papers are the same, but when selling a watch in Sweden I feel that papers from this AD is somewhat security to many as the easily can go there to check, talk etc... Also when saying 'I can always save up to a new 16600 later' i meant a new pre-used one and the preferrably a V-Serie. The SD prices has not become any higher here in Sweden from what I can see. I absolutly love both watches but right now my economy only allows for one :-( I am leaning towards the 16613 as I have had the SD for a year or so and it is always nice with a change :-) and I already have an Omega SMP in SS. Ps the 16613 is BNIB DS But I havent decided yet.... /masterkiller __________________ Rolex - SubC... AP - Diver... Panerai - PAM380 Omega - Speedy PRO

17 April 2009, 10:34 PM	#5
Welshwatchman "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Real Name: Paul Location: Wales, UK Posts: 14,578	Keep the SD. In a couple of years the SD will be worth the same as the 16613, possibly more. __________________ ..33

17 April 2009, 11:01 PM	#6
Andad 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Eddie Location: Australia Watch: A few. Posts: 37,534	Will the old TT Blue sub also be discontinued now the new one has been released? __________________ E

18 April 2009, 12:52 AM	#8
acce1999 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: GMT+1 Posts: 2,711	It sounds like you have made a decision already. Personally I am not into S/G at all, and find the SD to be more unique, and would therefore keep it. Why don't you drop the Breitling and the Omega, and get BOTH the 16613 and keep the 16600? ;-) Good luck - and post pictures if you go through the deal! Best, A

18 April 2009, 01:27 AM	#9
SLS "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Real Name: Scott Location: GMT -7 Watch: GMT's & Sub's Posts: 10,401	I would not make that trade. Scott __________________ "The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of lower price is forgotten." -Benjamin Franklin Member No. 922

18 April 2009, 02:06 AM	#10
tubojunk "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 507	It's not going to be as easy as you think to save up for a Sea Dweller since they are discontinued. __________________ Audemars 15707ce Lange 191.032 Patek 5990/1a Rolex 126610LN

18 April 2009, 02:12 AM	#11
cdweller "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: PA Watch: SubLV, 1665 Rail Posts: 1,054	If you are going to trade a watch that you will eventually just buy again, I would keep the SD and eventually buy the 16613. Although it is always nice to have a change I suppose...

18 April 2009, 02:31 AM	#13
Noonan Banned Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: US Watch: 3570.50 Posts: 2,156	I'd keep the SD and get the updated sub in a few years when they're readily available and the prices are down.

18 April 2009, 03:05 AM	#15
diablojota "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Real Name: Frank Location: Chattanooga, TN Watch: SS Submariner Date Posts: 4,042	I'd hold onto the SD. They don't make 'em anymore and as mentioned it's the same movement just a bit of gold is the only difference. __________________ RTFT - Read The Friggin' Thread FcB

18 April 2009, 04:44 AM	#16
JIM- Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 599	Keep your SD, buy the TT and hide from wife.

18 April 2009, 04:46 AM	#17
GOGO Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Anaheim hills Watch: Rolex Datejust Posts: 94	TT is better

18 April 2009, 04:56 AM	#18
karmatp "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Real Name: Trevor Location: Arizona Posts: 5,740	I would much rather have the SD. __________________ My grails:

18 April 2009, 01:14 PM	#19
landroverking "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Jay Location: TEXAS Watch: Daytona Posts: 7,648	I would guess there are a lot more TT Blue Subs out there and will be much easier to come by down the road. Late model SD with no holes are bound to be harder to replace, while I don't know the numbers produced, I just have not seen as many for sale.

18 April 2009, 01:16 PM	#20
Art 1 Banned Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Florida, Canada Watch: Rol/Seik/Tud/Omega Posts: 30,244	I don't know that it's an upgrade.

18 April 2009, 02:11 PM	#21
Jason71 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Real Name: Jason Location: USA Watch: Rolex/Tudor Divers Posts: 7,973	I would stick with the 16600 myself. __________________ Best Regards, Jason Just Say "NO" to Polishing Card-Carrying Member of the Global Association of Retro-Grouch Curmudgeons LIfe is too short to wear inexpensive watches PLEXI IS SEXY

18 April 2009, 02:27 PM	#22
JJ Irani Fondly Remembered Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: JJ Location: Auckland, NZ Watch: ALL SOLD!! Posts: 74,319	This one or that one......tough choice!!! __________________ Words fail me in expressing my utmost thanks to ALL of you for this wonderful support during my hour of need!! I firmly believe that my time on planet earth is NOT yet up!! I shall fight this to the very end.......and WIN!!

20 April 2009, 07:13 PM	#23
masterkiller "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Sweden Watch: Rolex, AP & PAM... Posts: 1,403	Thanxs! Hi all, After a tough decision I have decided to keep the SD ! /masterkiller __________________ Rolex - SubC... AP - Diver... Panerai - PAM380 Omega - Speedy PRO

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