Purchase history for a Sports Model

[MNIPZ]

People who have purchased a Pepsi/Batman/Daytona etc from their AD. What has your purchase history been like?

I need to purchase 3/4 TT datejusts for my family this summer and was wondering if that would be enough to get me a Pepsi or would I need to buy more.

I live in a small city with 3 AD's and all 3 are very similar, family owned stores but 1 of the boutiques has a Patek dealership as well

[Jrsanchez]

Have you asked the ad they’re all different

[dkg1616]

Some are strictly financial driven, some our long term relationship driven and some are a mix of both!

Bottom line gotta learn your AD and make yourself known by the staff / owners - not just your sales associate.

I got a 116500 last week after waiting 3 years. My family has been long time purchase. I’ve purchased a sub and probably 5k of jewelry in between.

[OG1982]

First point of call, speak with your AD or as many local ADs you can find.

Something along the lines of, ‘how long would I have to wait for a Pepsi if I were to buy 4 DJ models’?... make sure you let them know this first and if it were me I would say I would be happy to put a 10 or 20% deposit down on the Pepsi at the same time as buying the DJs.

Leaving deposits isn't a popular approach for many on this forum, but it worked out great for me.

[1William]

I would go in and have face to face conversations with the SA and the manager. I would not buy four DJ's on the promise of a watch in the future. Leverage the DJ's and take delivery of a watch you want at the same time or find an AD that will do it. Good luck.

[brandrea]

Originally Posted by 1William

I would go in and have face to face conversations with the SA and the manager. I would not buy four DJ's on the promise of a watch in the future. Leverage the DJ's and take delivery of a watch you want at the same time or find an AD that will do it. Good luck.

This exactly ^^^

I’d also add that some AD’s do still cater to the watch enthusiast. They obviously have to balance out sales to their largest customers, while also selling to those of us who really love the brand and buy to wear.

[Benzsiam]

Go to talk to various ADs/Boutiques about your need. I think it should be possible for you to get 3 Datejust and 1 Pepsi at the same time. Most ADs/Boutiques would love to sell multiple watches at the same time.

[Waldorf369]

Would avoid the Patek dealership as that's where you get your big spenders.

Know someone that already has an extensive/significant relationship, and blew 100k on Patek, before they sold him the White Dayton on the back of that.

[Oxfordian]

Go in to the dealers and tell them that this is what you want, 3 DateJusts and a BLRO, explain why you’re doing this in case they think that you are going to sell them, but you need to pick them up at the same time, can they assist.

You’re going to be spending around 40,000+ euros in one hit, more if you add a 4th DJ, the AD should welcome you and be willing to work with you.

Good luck

[Seddyspaghetti]

Perhaps, perhaps not. You should ask them.

[Nairn1980]

Originally Posted by MNIPZ

People who have purchased a Pepsi/Batman/Daytona etc from their AD. What has your purchase history been like?

I need to purchase 3/4 TT datejusts for my family this summer and was wondering if that would be enough to get me a Pepsi or would I need to buy more.

I live in a small city with 3 AD's and all 3 are very similar, family owned stores but 1 of the boutiques has a Patek dealership as well

No point in asking us, all our ADs are different, and there are so many variables.

Best ask them

[dannyp]

Originally Posted by 1William

I would go in and have face to face conversations with the SA and the manager. I would not buy four DJ's on the promise of a watch in the future. Leverage the DJ's and take delivery of a watch you want at the same time or find an AD that will do it. Good luck.

Originally Posted by brandrea

This exactly ^^^

I’d also add that some AD’s do still cater to the watch enthusiast. They obviously have to balance out sales to their largest customers, while also selling to those of us who really love the brand and buy to wear.

I would definitely not go in positioning this as a quid pro quo, as some may find it a turnoff, especially enthusiast dealers/those whose business this is (vs a commissioned salesperson). Instead, start by striking up a conversation about the watches in general, and what exactly you're buying them to celebrate (presumably there is some special event that warrants such purchases/gifts).

Then go through the list of exactly what you're looking for (have specific DJ variants in mind) and play slightly naive, as though the BLRO is just one of the four or five you're looking for, same as the others. When they say: "No problem on the DJs, but the BLRO will take some time," you can act a little surprised and ask how come, suggest that you'll shop around to see if anyone has all of the watches, and see how they react then. Or perhaps they'll just say: "Sure, we can help you with all of those right now."

Originally Posted by Benzsiam

Go to talk to various ADs/Boutiques about your need. I think it should be possible for you to get 3 Datejust and 1 Pepsi at the same time. Most ADs/Boutiques would love to sell multiple watches at the same time.

Bingo! It's great to reward past spend history, but that past spend isn't going to help them pay next month's bills (the way selling four or five watches at once will).

Originally Posted by Waldorf369

Would avoid the Patek dealership as that's where you get your big spenders.

Know someone that already has an extensive/significant relationship, and blew 100k on Patek, before they sold him the White Dayton on the back of that.

True, but still worth a shot. A "small city" with three ADs probably has plenty of money floating around it anyhow, and not all Patek buyers are also searching for stainless Rolexes.

[brandrea]

Originally Posted by dannyp

I would definitely not go in positioning this as a quid pro quo, as some may find it a turnoff, especially enthusiast dealers/those whose business this is (vs a commissioned salesperson). Instead, start by striking up a conversation about the watches in general, and what exactly you're buying them to celebrate (presumably there is some special event that warrants such purchases/gifts).

Then go through the list of exactly what you're looking for (have specific DJ variants in mind) and play slightly naive, as though the BLRO is just one of the four or five you're looking for, same as the others. When they say: "No problem on the DJs, but the BLRO will take some time," you can act a little surprised and ask how come, suggest that you'll shop around to see if anyone has all of the watches, and see how they react then. Or perhaps they'll just say: "Sure, we can help you with all of those right now."



Bingo! It's great to reward past spend history, but that past spend isn't going to help them pay next month's bills (the way selling four or five watches at once will).



True, but still worth a shot. A "small city" with three ADs probably has plenty of money floating around it anyhow, and not all Patek buyers are also searching for stainless Rolexes.

All Ad’s are not created equal I suppose

[Ginsu_]

Depends on the market and the ad

[Francist]

Each AD is different, from where i live buying dj41 probably won’t get u very far.
Those are soldout very easily anyway.
Maybe 4 DJ28/31/36mm will very likely land u the pepsi.
And I bet they have the pepsi in a safe (i know my AD does).

[DC116710LN]

I would have a friendly, yet forthcoming conversation with each of the AD's. As others have mentioned, avoid purchasing the Datejusts without a firm commitment on the Pepsi. Best of luck!

[Ravager135]

Every place is different. Best chance, assuming you do not already have some type of relationship, is to go to family owned (rather than a larger chain) AD in person. I would discuss your interest in Rolex and what you are realistically looking to get. I would also be up front about acknowledgement of wait times and how difficult some models are to get. If there happens to be something else there that you are interested it, I'd buy it. I do not believe in buying anything you are not interested in. I think the best course of action is to be yourself and accept that despite your best foot forward, there's a good chance you might be waiting a long time for what you want.

For comparison, my local AD is family owned with two locations. I have purchased two Rolex watches from them as well as two IWCs. One Rolex was a 116610LV I bought out of the case well before things became scarce. The other, was a Datejust I ordered for my wife. I go in there a few times a year to look or purchase. I service my watches there. When I call, they know who I am even though I have not spent much compared to many other customers. I have been told that if I ever want to get on a waiting list for something, they are happy to do so even if they can't guarantee a delivery time.

I think that's the most honest you're going to get these days unless you are spending absurd amounts. Just my experience.

[Haveapair]

I spent 500k at the AD and I am on the wait list for a Daytona. The AD told me that the wait list is real, and that they do not sell directly to grey market dealers

[wholecz]

Originally Posted by Haveapair

I spent 500k at the AD and I am on the wait list for a Daytona. The AD told me that the wait list is real, and that they do not sell directly to grey market dealers

[1665fan]

Originally Posted by Haveapair

I spent 500k at the AD and I am on the wait list for a Daytona. The AD told me that the wait list is real, and that they do not sell directly to grey market dealers

This has to be a joke right????

[Posh Gentleman]

this is a hard query to answer, since it is really case by case.

my boss didn't even go on wait list for Rolex pepsi or daytona, but he got the call from his AD for these models anyways, since he is considered a good long term client. and he bought these pieces and gifted them to his son (lucky guy), as he owns lots of far nicer watches to wear himself.

the 'wait list' at lots of large chain AD's are kinda fake. these guys get a Daytona, and many times, that Daytona is going to their key clients even if they didn't even ask for it.

[dannyp]

Originally Posted by Haveapair

I spent 500k at the AD and I am on the wait list for a Daytona. The AD told me that the wait list is real, and that they do not sell directly to grey market dealers

Originally Posted by wholecz

Originally Posted by 1665fan

This has to be a joke right????

Is the AD owned by P.T. Barnum?

[Ravager135]

Originally Posted by Haveapair

I spent 500k at the AD and I am on the wait list for a Daytona. The AD told me that the wait list is real, and that they do not sell directly to grey market dealers

I can't tell if this is a flex or if you got taken for a ride...

If someone is spending 500k on watches, most will just pay the premium for a Daytona from a grey dealer. I mean you already did anyway.

[Tavli3]

I would rule out the AD that is also Patek dealer you’d be swimming in whale territory there.
Go talk to the family run places and try being upfront and honest with them and see which one you get the best feeling from. I wouldn’t make your purchase contingent on anything. If you hit it off with the right AD and they know you’ll be a longtime customer and not a flipper the hot models will come you’re way. Anyone buying 3-4 watches at the same time for family and for profit sounds like a good customer many ADs would like to have


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[TswaneNguni]

Originally Posted by Haveapair

I spent 500k at the AD and I am on the wait list for a Daytona.

Well done !!

[johnorpheus]

Whatever it is, it’s not worth it unless you had planned to make these purchases already. What sense does spending 50-100k make to get a shot at one of those sports models? Pretty nuts.