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16 May 2009, 05:15 PM
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Interesting serial number engraving.
The serial number is odd !?! Does anyone have any comments?
http://cgi.ebay.com/Rolex-Tudor-Prin...3A1%7C294%3A50 |
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16 May 2009, 07:10 PM
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Its unusual for Perpetual time but this looks like the serial and model have been re worked, guys need to confirm this  
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16 May 2009, 08:03 PM
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Guys, this is a rework for sure.
Hand engraving with a Dremel engraver could produce this type of result. Strange the case does not show any signs of having been ground down. Could be a fake where the engravings were done by hand |
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16 May 2009, 09:12 PM
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To me it looks like that the original engravings wore off from wear and someone attempted to re-engrave all of the numbers. Unfortunate as the watch looks to be genuine. Those numbers do wear off due to bracelet rubbing and the like. And if you look, it appears that someone did polish between the case lugs (look at the grain directionality). The dial does not look Navy Blue to me as it is stated in the description. Am I wrong here?
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16 May 2009, 10:01 PM
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The dial is definitely not blue on the pix...
Engraving and made as well. |
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16 May 2009, 10:05 PM
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This does NOT look right!
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16 May 2009, 10:49 PM
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*bump* keeping this one up the top :-)
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17 May 2009, 12:17 AM
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THERE'SARATINTHEATTIC!
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21 May 2009, 06:35 PM
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24 May 2009, 02:11 PM
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It still survives, it has yet to tun to the dark side of the can
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24 May 2009, 02:59 PM
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Not to rock the boat...but I have seen.....
alot of Tudor marks like this. I have seen that exact B on the serial# many, many times. Top of the B "lazy". Exactly as that one.
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24 May 2009, 03:12 PM
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comparison
when i saw the pictures, i thought that the 5 and 3 LOOK REAL close to these 5513's on a 83 and the other is a 87 model. i myself, might be sitting by alone on this one. so to say this is up for thought----yes!
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24 May 2009, 03:18 PM
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Tudor serial pics
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24 May 2009, 03:22 PM
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that is a better example then mine!
any others? |
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24 May 2009, 03:28 PM
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Almost all the PRE 791xxx or 751xxx WHICH WOULD BE..
790xxx or 750xxx I have seen have that lazy B. I believe that the above mentioned watch numbers are straight. I have owned many, many Tudor Subs.
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24 May 2009, 03:49 PM
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...here is a B-ser...
...my B is clean.
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24 May 2009, 03:57 PM
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Here is my 79190 clean B...the "lazy " B's seem to be on the ..
790xxx and 750xxx. All 791xxx and 751xxx (next model series) i have seen have clean B's.
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24 May 2009, 04:20 PM
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do we have any others examples of b, 5's and 3's?
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24 May 2009, 07:45 PM
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I have seen similiar fonts,,I will see if I can dig some up..
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25 May 2009, 10:19 AM
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Quote:
Here's a couple pics from my 1982 Tudor chronograph "big-block."
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25 May 2009, 05:11 PM
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done by hand and I don't think that's original. maybe the case is aftermarket
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25 May 2009, 05:42 PM
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Just a quite reminder this still lives :-(
just over 13 hours to go. Prod from me
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26 May 2009, 01:51 AM
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26 May 2009, 03:09 AM
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4 hours left, last prod for me now, time for some sleep ......zzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZ
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26 May 2009, 04:13 AM
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the five and three on my post have the same features this as the one in question.
the post by motomc1 on the lazy b, i have seen serveral and owned a few. |
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26 May 2009, 07:32 AM
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I own one of these and for the record the numbers (under a loupe) look clean and precise. Sorry I cannot take micro pics.
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