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Old 29 June 2022, 10:41 AM   #61
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IMHO and FWIW, it is a good buy when you want it to the extent that you are not worried about depreciation.
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Old 29 June 2022, 10:50 AM   #62
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Guys,

I am being offered a half gold blue sub (126613LB) at retail.

Can I know, given the current situation of the market, is it still a good buy?

I am not buying to flip, but just worried about a potential crash.

Appreciate any point of view but please don't flame...

Historically before the hype they traded a couple thousand under retail. If you like it you wear and it costs a couple thousand if you move it on. Go for it if you love it.

As long as you don't pay over retail there's nothing wrong with this arrangement.
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Old 29 June 2022, 10:54 AM   #63
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If you're hoping to pick it up for 30% off retail if the market crashes, I'd say you're dreaming
Unless you plan to go preowned, the only way you're going to get this at anything under retail is for the person selling it to have purchased it from an AD at below retail
I doubt we'll see Rolex ADs discounting anytime soon (and if they do it wont be much)

Buy it but be prepared to take a 10%-15% hair cut when/if you sell it
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Old 29 June 2022, 11:34 AM   #64
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The 43mm TT SD is an amazing upgrade and size wise its really not much different. It has the gold writing on the dial.
I am loving it. I would like a bluesy too and this will complete my trilogy of dive watches which now consist of 2 SD43, in SS and 2T.
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Old 29 June 2022, 11:42 AM   #65
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Lol, I tried the "half-gold" on in person and was impressed. I'd normally and historically thought two tone was not for me but the demo model I tried on was very nice.

Interesting motivation and concern to get a watch but in the end, you do you. If I had similar thoughts, I would not get. If I was offered this watch by AD, I'd get, but that's m own opinion independent of any realizable market value. The only time I think realizable market value should come into account is if a lightly used version is available at a hefty discount to retail(Land Rovers/omegas except that silly snoopy one etc..)
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Old 29 June 2022, 12:05 PM   #66
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If it “really matters” what the future value is, don’t buy it.

Buy it if you like it and if you can afford it.

Speculation on watches is not healthy.

It’s a lovely watch! One of my favorites. The two tone submariner was my first submariner.

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Old 29 June 2022, 12:08 PM   #67
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We dont call them half gold
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Old 29 June 2022, 12:37 PM   #68
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Just so you know, half of the weight of the watch is not gold :)
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Old 29 June 2022, 01:30 PM   #69
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thanks for all the input.

Really enjoyed the read and I am not the least affected by some of the rude remarks as I expected that from the start having read in this and many others forum.

As to the half-gold comment, it is hilarious. Agreed, "half-gold" is only use in where we are (i.e. Asia). Just like we do not usually use the term two tone. Great to know across cultures, we can discuss the same thing and name them differently.

I guess I will just need to pick up the watch from the AD and know for myself if I have made a mistake week, months or years later.

Cheers all!
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Old 29 June 2022, 02:22 PM   #70
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wouldn't buy it unless you want the watch
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Old 29 June 2022, 03:00 PM   #71
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At retail from an AD, still a good buy. Could you get a cheaper at some point? Possibly. But it's likely going to be used and you will not be the original owner.

I get where you're coming from. No matter how much you like to watch, or how much money you have, you always want to know what the market is. That's just good sense.

And you would think by coming to a forum like this you could get some good information.

Enjoy the watch,

I've never had a regret buying a rolex. I have many regrets for not buying certain rolexes though.
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Old 29 June 2022, 03:18 PM   #72
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The most interesting thing about this post is the term "half gold". I've never heard that term and I had to think about it for a moment lol. Like people are saying here, if you like it, if you want it but if you cant live without it, you should get it. I love my 116613LB and I had to have one when I bought it. If its available from an AD at retail, that's still amazing...
I actually prefer the term Half Gold to Two Tone , I might start using it
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Old 29 June 2022, 03:38 PM   #73
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I actually prefer the term Half Gold to Two Tone , I might start using it
Me too, and I also prefer Half Gold to "bi-metal", which is or was common usage in the UK. Come to think of it, Half Gold even sounds better to me than Rolesor, which is a 90-year-old trademark. Sign me up for the Half Golders
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Old 29 June 2022, 05:19 PM   #74
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This Rolex will never be up for grabs for less than RRP.
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Old 29 June 2022, 05:36 PM   #75
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As someone who recently bought one, it's taken a while to get my hands on one. It's still in demand. It's also an absolutely stunning piece. i believe the time of the investment Rolex is waning with the exception of some special pieces. One AD I shop with said "no" and another who I've bought more pieces from got me it (and relatively quickly). I'd not worry about scratched PCL as that would happen on SS PCLs as well. It can be polished if the desire ever arises. I absolutely love the new shape, the glide lock is a nice clasp but not essential imho. The 72 hour reserve is nice. It feels much better balanced to my wrist than my old 114060. I agree that it is much more attractive than the Sub Date in black which I kind of find mundane (but different strokes for different folks). Here's mine in the evening shadows on my run just a little bit ago.

I agree fully. It's an epic watch. Timeless. Currently hard to get, maybe less so when the frenzy dies down, but won't go down in value. And after a rub and tug at the RSC those scratches will be gone. I have a tt gmt and a ym and the PCLs are what they are. Not to us but not others, and of course polishable - buy it if you love it!
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Old 29 June 2022, 07:37 PM   #76
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Me too, and I also prefer Half Gold to "bi-metal", which is or was common usage in the UK. Come to think of it, Half Gold even sounds better to me than Rolesor, which is a 90-year-old trademark. Sign me up for the Half Golders
Half Gold is close enough to the term we use here, so sign me up too
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Old 29 June 2022, 07:53 PM   #77
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Wait for the crash. You'll be able to pick one up for 1/3$
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Old 29 June 2022, 07:56 PM   #78
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Hey, “Half-gold” is a lot better then some of the bizarre nicknames people have labeled fine watches with on this site.
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Old 29 June 2022, 08:06 PM   #79
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Given how hot SS pieces are, would calling it "half steel" make it seem more chic/desirable?
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Old 29 June 2022, 08:10 PM   #80
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Given how hot SS pieces are, would calling it "half steel" make it seem more chic/desirable?
This of course, is correct
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Old 29 June 2022, 08:32 PM   #81
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Hey, “Half-gold” is a lot better then some of the bizarre nicknames people have labeled fine watches with on this site.
Now that is an fact. For example “Cookie Monster” is a slap in the face to such an elegant watch.
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Old 29 June 2022, 08:42 PM   #82
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Hey, “Half-gold” is a lot better then some of the bizarre nicknames people have labeled fine watches with on this site.
Absolutely agree.
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Old 29 June 2022, 09:28 PM   #83
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Exactly. I think the OP is onto something here!
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Old 29 June 2022, 10:22 PM   #84
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Yes, buying now at MSRP would be a good move. You won't be hurt when you sell.
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Old 29 June 2022, 10:35 PM   #85
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My half steel Explorer can now be had below retail price - make of it what you will of things to come.
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Old 29 June 2022, 10:36 PM   #86
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Half gold is such a good term. So accurate! Nicely done OP
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Old 29 June 2022, 10:42 PM   #87
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thanks for all the input.

Really enjoyed the read and I am not the least affected by some of the rude remarks as I expected that from the start having read in this and many others forum.

As to the half-gold comment, it is hilarious. Agreed, "half-gold" is only use in where we are (i.e. Asia). Just like we do not usually use the term two tone. Great to know across cultures, we can discuss the same thing and name them differently.

I guess I will just need to pick up the watch from the AD and know for myself if I have made a mistake week, months or years later.

Cheers all!
I love how you guys call it the Blue Golden Water Ghost, epic name for a terrific watch!
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Old 29 June 2022, 10:54 PM   #88
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I am not a fan of gold watches as they seem pretentious to me overall, unless they are white gold. For some reason the half gold, formerly known as bluesy, gets a pass. It is stunning in person. The only version I don't like is the one with the light blue dial that came out several years ago. Looked like the same ugly dial the smurf came with.

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Old 29 June 2022, 11:08 PM   #89
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Some people are just half minded
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Old 29 June 2022, 11:11 PM   #90
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Buy it, and enjoy it...
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