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View Poll Results: Does your 32xx movement seem to be 100% ok? | |||
Yes, no issues | 1,059 | 69.72% | |
No, amplitude is low (below 200) but timekeeping is still fine | 62 | 4.08% | |
No, amplitude is low (below 200) and timekeeping is off (>5 s/d) | 398 | 26.20% | |
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15 March 2023, 09:08 PM | #3601 |
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Bought a sd43 in may 2020
Slightly slow at start (-1/2 sec / day) and became way worse end of 2022 ( ~ -5 sec/ day minimum ) So I went to my AD ( bon marché Paris) ; they have a fast process in place for Watches under warranty They gave me back the watch one week later !! They were not very clear on the job done : in depth cleaning, barrel change, échappement change, … A bit fast ( +1 sec/day) but very stable now Overall a very impressive performance |
15 March 2023, 10:07 PM | #3602 | |
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15 March 2023, 11:08 PM | #3603 |
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On the other hand, the watch media love to ride the Rolex hype train with clickbait titles such as "Rolex price drop?", "Better than Rolex?", etc. I don't know why they would balk at creating a video titled "Problems with the latest Rolex movement?"
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16 March 2023, 06:24 AM | #3604 | |
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16 March 2023, 12:42 PM | #3605 | |
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16 March 2023, 12:46 PM | #3606 | |
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17 March 2023, 08:01 AM | #3607 |
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My 2021 DSSD is still at RSC NY - 5 weeks now, for this issue, hopefully comes back soon.
As an interesting side note: I have a 2022 Tudor GMT Diet Pepsi, and a 2022 Tudor BB 925. Both purchased from AD in Feb 22. Until 2 weeks ago, both ran about +1 or 2 spd fast. Now, they both are running -6 to 8 slow. What the actual EFF? Not dropped, bumped, zip. Wearing habits the same. The 925 is worse, I may take it back to the AD for warranty service. How do they run excellent for a year, and then suddenly go slow. |
17 March 2023, 08:32 AM | #3608 | |
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17 March 2023, 09:20 AM | #3609 | |
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17 March 2023, 12:01 PM | #3610 | |
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17 March 2023, 05:04 PM | #3611 | |
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17 March 2023, 11:20 PM | #3612 |
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18 March 2023, 12:09 AM | #3613 | |
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32xx movement problem poll and data thread
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"I'm not buying a 32×× Rolex anytime soon, 31×× is still quite a bit more reliable. Unfortunately there's still issues with this movement…" |
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18 March 2023, 08:52 AM | #3614 |
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Was having a discussion about the 32xx with an AD yesterday. He admitted, off the record, that they had seen an inordinate amount of warranty work on those movements. When I told him that I wasn't a fan of the 32xx, he said "I'm not, either." Of course, he and I agreed that we "never had this conversation."
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18 March 2023, 03:56 PM | #3615 |
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I have an $18 quartz Casio that is more accurate then my Rolex. I still like the Rolex better
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18 March 2023, 05:30 PM | #3616 |
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18 March 2023, 06:27 PM | #3617 | |
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But ………. I will have to be very strict though. I would only grant you your diploma after you prove that you can take data readings with PRECISION and your your graphs were ACCURATE.
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18 March 2023, 07:59 PM | #3618 |
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I just got back my 124060 from RSC NYC on Thursday. It was up there since February first. I got the watch back in February 22 brand new from the AD and it ran slow out of the box. About -4.5 if I wore it 24/7 and kept -2.5 if I rested dial up. I took it by RSC when I was there on a trip to have them regulate it and they told me the bad news that it had low amplitude and needed a service. The associate said it was around 200 in dial up. I don’t have a timegrapher but I do use the watch tracker app and I saw that watch consistently lose time from the day I got it. I’ll post up some data from the app in a week or two. It’s such a bummer these watches run like this. My 126610LV is a weird one to track too. Sometimes it’s dead on gaining zero a day and then some days it will randomly drop even though I wear it the same. I’ve considered trading back to 31xx watches but I think I’m gonna hold out and hope they find a fix. The upgrades from the 11 series subs are worth it to me in both looks and wear.
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18 March 2023, 09:01 PM | #3619 | |
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18 March 2023, 11:43 PM | #3620 | |
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19 March 2023, 12:28 AM | #3621 |
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Very easy, use a Quartzmaster.
Under accessories one finds what you also need: "a battery dummy set". https://www.witschi.com/en/products/quartzmaster-2/ |
19 March 2023, 12:54 AM | #3622 | |
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What are the amplitude and rate values now after repair? |
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19 March 2023, 02:05 AM | #3623 |
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It had low amplitude after 8 months of owning it. I had taken two trips to NYC Rolex service. The first being back in October of 2022 and that’s when I took it in thinking it just needed a regulation. That’s when they told me it had the low amplitudes. Low 200s. So they regulated it and gave it back and said if it gets slow again to bring it back. It did within 3 months so I dropped it off February 1. Got it back this past Thursday with no information other than “check movement” on the service slip. I don’t have a timegrapher to record amplitude but I’ve been tracking it the past couple days and it’s at +1.1 since Thursday afternoon. That’s wearing about 14-16 hours and resting DU
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19 March 2023, 02:14 AM | #3624 | |
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Don't you think it is worth to spend about 200.- USD for a timegrapher and check your watch now (after repair) and every few months later? I'm pretty sure RSC NY could not fix the problem, just my opinion. |
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19 March 2023, 03:06 AM | #3625 |
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I knew it was worse than we thought when 32xx's come in and have no wear at all, yet run terrible.
Or when you serviced one and it's perfectly lubricated, yet it cannot even reach 200 degrees fully wound dial up... |
19 March 2023, 03:34 AM | #3626 | ||
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I am very surprised. What is your explanation? Did you also measure so low amplitudes for a 3235, 3285, or 3255 after a service? |
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19 March 2023, 04:01 AM | #3627 | |
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19 March 2023, 04:37 AM | #3628 | |
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The plan of action is to start with replacing the balance staff, then pallet fork, escape wheel, rest of the gear train. Pallet fork and balance staff replacement usually get me enough amplitude to barely reach tolerance... |
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19 March 2023, 05:04 AM | #3629 | |
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Barely reach tolerances? What are the amplitude tolerances (H- and V- positions) after a service? I am curious to know these numbers (for my 32xx watches, two need a repair). Bas, many thanks for all these information and explications, very interesting and much appreciated. |
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19 March 2023, 05:12 AM | #3630 |
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Well if there was any doubt at all. Geez.
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